Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

[Rich T]

Sure it can be but why start from that starting point? Salt mines/ Co-ops etc. To me it shows a fundamental lack of understanding and that their priorities aren’t straight. To me it sounds like they re more interested in making this Inclusive: The Ride and less like a fun adventure. We also know the people at WDI and at the company are nowhere near the level of experience of the people that worked on Splash. We also have recent lackluster examples we can point to like MMRR. We also have the worst PR/ parks blogs ever created. There’s not much to inspire optimism aside from the fact that it still has Splash’s good bones and we know as theme park fans that back stories aren’t always felt on the ride experience.

I agree the presentation of the project so far could have been much better. And I can’t think of a single recent Disney attraction post-Flight-of-Passage that I’m a fan of. Maybe Slinky Dog. But, again, I’m going to wait to see how TBA turns out, because it has great potential.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I think it *could* be. I think it will certainly be less of a headache for Disney.

Oh, I actually don't know if it will be better. I can't possibly know because the ride is not even close to being open, let alone open at all. But that's my point. People are quick to dismiss almost everything about the ride because it's replacing beloved Splash Mountain and that's all that matters. Forget letting things play out and giving it a chance. Forget letting the ride to ACTUALLY OPEN. Not gonna happen.

 

[Too Many Hats]

I miss Splash's ambiance as well. Critter Country is lifeless right now.

But I hope it's closed for as long as it takes. The priority should be creating an attraction that will stand the test of time and stand on its own two feet (not relegated to being "the Splash overlay" forever). Why bother opening late 2024 anyway? Hopefully they don't cut corners to meet that deadline. A log ride opening in November or December? Why not take a bit more time and open in May 2025?

 

[CaptinEO]

Oh, I actually don't know if it will be better. I can't possibly know because the ride is not even close to being open, let alone open at all. But that's my point. People are quick to dismiss almost everything about the ride because it's replacing beloved Splash Mountain and that's all that matters. Forget letting things play out and giving it a chance. Forget letting the ride to ACTUALLY OPEN. Not gonna happen.

People will give it a chance when it opens, even detractors will want to try it.

People should be skeptical of anything Disney does these days as their track record is mixed at best in recent years.

Taking SOTS out of the equation, If someone were to ask me if I want a new ride from 80s Disney Imagineering vs 2020s Disney Imagineering I'd pick the former.

The company was just ran better back then and not as greedy as today.

 

[Californian Elitist]

People will give it a chance when it opens, even detractors will want to try it.

People should be skeptical of anything Disney does these days as their track record is mixed at best in recent years.

Taking SOTS out of the equation, If someone were to ask me if I want a new ride from 80s Disney Imagineering vs 2020s Disney Imagineering I'd pick the former.

The company was just ran better back then and not as greedy as today.

I’m not saying people don’t have the right to be skeptical. It’s the absolute statements that don’t make any sense to me, as the ride is literally still under construction. It’s quite clear that a few folks have no desire to give this project even a smidge of chance, even when it opens.

 

[Kirby86]

I miss Splash's ambiance as well. Critter Country is lifeless right now.

But I hope it's closed for as long as it takes. The priority should be creating an attraction that will stand the test of time and stand on its own two feet (not relegated to being "the Splash overlay" forever). Why bother opening late 2024 anyway? Hopefully they don't cut corners to meet that deadline. A log ride opening in November or December? Why not take a bit more time and open in May 2025?

They want to have the ride ready for the Christmas season crowds. Both parks are already missing two summers and one Christmas. I think someone up top said that's the most we're willing to miss get the attraction done.

 

[CaptinEO]

I’m not saying people don’t have the right to be skeptical. It’s the absolute statements that don’t make any sense to me, as the ride is literally still under construction. It’s quite clear that a few folks have no desire to give this project even a smidge of chance, even when it opens.

When it was announced I saw many die hard Disney fans say they wouldn't go to Star Wars Galaxys Edge as it betrayed Walts themed land concept for the park and was too much IP. I'd almost guarantee those people checked out the land and rides at some point.

IMO if someone is on this board they are likely to visit the park in the future and if the Bayou ride is open I'm sure they'll go on it.

 

[Kirby86]

I’m not saying people don’t have the right to be skeptical. It’s the absolute statements that don’t make any sense to me, as the ride is literally still under construction. It’s quite clear that a few folks have no desire to give this project even a smidge of chance, even when it opens.

I didn't want the attraction to change however, if/when I end up going back to Disneyworld or visit Disneyland I'll give the ride a chance.

 

[Californian Elitist]

When it was announced I saw many die hard Disney fans say they wouldn't go to Star Wars Galaxys Edge as it betrayed Walts themed land concept for the park and was too much IP. I'd almost guarantee those people checked out the land and rides at some point.

IMO if someone is on this board they are likely to visit the park in the future and if the Bayou ride is open I'm sure they'll go on it.

I’m not saying they won’t hop in the queue. I’m saying some folks will likely go in with an attitude, expecting to be disappointed, and will find things to be overly critical about, going in guns blazing. It’s already happening in this thread.

 

[CaptinEO]

I’m not saying they won’t hop in the queue. I’m saying some folks will likely go in with an attitude, expecting to be disappointed, and will find things to be overly critical about, going in guns blazing. It’s already happening in this thread.

That's true. You could say that about a lot of things such as movies where people make up their mind about it before they're out.

On the flipside a friend of ours LOVES all things Disney and no matter what the ride or movie is you know she will say it's amazing or perfect. She even said the new Haunted Mansion movie was the best movie of the year. I'm sure in her mind the Tiana ride is already a 10/10 just because it's a new Disney thing.

I'm somewhere in the middle. I think Disney management has made lots of bad choices and I don't know if they remember how to make good themepark attractions. But I also love water rides and log flumes in general and want the ride to be good and either way will give it a chance with a blank slate. While I go on boards to discuss themeparks, when I'm in one I am just living in the moment and disconnected from all that. After all I'm there to have fun.

 

[Disstevefan1]

While I will miss Splash, I will happily go on this fun log flume ride no matter the theme.

 

[Californian Elitist]

That's true. You could say that about a lot of things such as movies where people make up their mind about it before they're out.

On the flipside a friend of ours LOVES all things Disney and no matter what the ride or movie is you know she will say it's amazing or perfect. She even said the new Haunted Mansion movie was the best movie of the year. I'm sure in her mind the Tiana ride is already a 10/10 just because it's a new Disney thing.

I'm somewhere in the middle. I think Disney management has made lots of bad choices and I don't know if they remember how to make good themepark attractions. But I also love water rides and log flumes in general and want the ride to be good and either way will give it a chance with a blank slate. While I go on boards to discuss themeparks, when I'm in one I am just living in the moment and disconnected from all that. After all I'm there to have fun.

Are you really in the middle, though?

 

[Too Many Hats]

They want to have the ride ready for the Christmas season crowds. Both parks are already missing two summers and one Christmas. I think someone up top said that's the most we're willing to miss get the attraction done.

I see. Doesn’t seem worth it to me, but I might be underestimating the importance of capacity during those two weeks of holiday crowds. The folks in park operations would certainly be more knowledgeable about this than I am.

Then again, maybe WDI/TDA is also just confident they can turn in a finished attraction in just a year and a half. Time will tell.

 

[Too Many Hats]

I’m not saying they won’t hop in the queue. I’m saying some folks will likely go in with an attitude, expecting to be disappointed, and will find things to be overly critical about, going in guns blazing. It’s already happening in this thread.

For sure. It's pretty clear there will be toxicity from some Disney fans when the attraction opens, no matter what. It'll be frustrating to attempt to discuss the merits and shortcomings of the attraction while having to wonder if people are engaging in good faith. Many won't be.

 

[Californian Elitist]

For sure. It's pretty clear there will be toxicity from some Disney fans when the attraction opens, no matter what. It'll be frustrating to attempt to discuss the merits and shortcomings of the attraction while having to wonder if people are engaging in good faith. Many won't be.

Exactly, and that’s frustrating and annoying. It’ll be rehash of the ridiculous WWI banter here a couple of months ago.

 

[Too Many Hats]

This is why I don't care for overlays. For those of us (lunatics) who have ridden these attractions countless times, it's impossible to forget, somewhere in your bones, that you're riding Maelstrom or Tower of Terror or Splash Mountain. Makes it kind of hard to view the attraction as a blank slate.

Edit: Of course, this is no excuse for those who refuse to even attempt to assess the overlay objectively. But I think it does, on some level, make it more difficult.

 

[mickEblu]

This is why I don't care for overlays. For those of us (lunatics) who have ridden these attractions countless times, it's impossible to forget, somewhere in your bones, that you're riding Maelstrom or Tower of Terror or Splash Mountain. Makes it kind of hard to view the attraction as a blank slate.

I understand the sentiment and can agree in certain scenarios but I’m actually never thinking of TOT and the actual ride portion of Mission Breakout as I’m too busy being shot up and down. I’m not a fan of the ride for other reasons like it just being inferior to TOT in almost every way. To your point, I do think about TOT when I’m in the queue.

 

[Too Many Hats]

Exactly, and that’s frustrating and annoying. It’ll be rehash of the ridiculous WWI banter here a couple of months ago.

Sounds like I missed that. Glad I did.

Was the banter in reference to the news that the attraction will reference Tiana's father's WWI service?

If so, I've really come around on that tidbit from Disney PR. Initially it seemed jarring (WWI? in a log ride?), until I remembered how much I've always appreciated Disneyland's grounding in American history ("hard facts," as whitewashed as they may be). This will be an extension of that (and a more historically accurate one, we can hope). TBA won't be Splash Mountain; it'll have fantasy elements but be more grounded in the real world. That's an adjustment in perspective Disney fans will have to make, but I find it intriguing.

Of course, more likely than not, the mention of WWI will be minor and limited to the queue. Intriguing, nonetheless.

 

[Too Many Hats]

I understand the sentiment and can agree in certain scenarios but I’m actually never thinking of TOT and the actual ride portion of Mission Breakout as I’m too busy being shot up and down. I’m not a fan of the ride for other reasons like it just being inferior to TOT in almost every way. To your point, I do think about TOT when I’m in the queue.

Haha, yes Guardians/TOT might not be the best example, in terms of the actual ride itself.

But the queue, I'll stand by that. Walking into the building, through the lobby, the preshow, the boiler room -- I think of Tower of Terror every time.

 

[mickEblu]

Haha, yes Guardians/TOT might not be the best example, in terms of the actual ride itself.

But the queue, I'll stand by that. Walking into the building, through the lobby, the preshow, the boiler room -- I think of Tower of Terror every time.

Yeah me too at least on a subconscious level. The pre show room not so much. Pretty much just anywhere we aren’t really being engaged like the outdoor queue, lobby and boiler room.