Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

[Professortango1]

Agreed, with the exception of Snow White's Enchanted Wish. IMO that overlay is very well done. Charming, packed with details, re-rideable.

The ride just gives me whiplash. While it's predecessor had a a great descent from cheery to ominous to a chase sequence ending with the death of The Hag, the newer one bounces around between whimsy and scary and the death of The Hag feels so rushed with the new ending scenes being a poor replacement.

That, and the magic mirror projection screen sitting under a bridge.

The new ride isn't terrible, just a little weaker than the ride it replaced. Same with Mission BO. Trading in great for good/pretty good time and time again.

 

[Californian Elitist]

People are dismissing it for a variety of reasons.

For instance, I am dismissing it because of Disney's track record with rethemes (Mission BO, Incredicoaster, DLP Space Mountain, Frozen Ever After, Snow White's Enchanted Wish) as well as the information and images they are choosing to disclose.

The concept art looks bland. And concept art usually looks a bit more lively and exciting than what we get in real life. But these concept images seem to show a ride with fewer figures and visual interest as well as showing a thrill ride devoid of any danger.

Splash worked because it was whimsical and embraced the danger we feel with a drop. Same with TOT. Same with Maelstrom. But this seems to follow in the same line of their replacements where they focus on celebration as the only emotion in a 3 minute ride, making it feel one-note and out of step with the emotions the ride's thrill elements naturally inspire.

Disney also chose to make the mountain look less iconic. The pyramid like built to a focal point of the tree was dynamic. I wasn't a huge fan of the Boat/Tree on top, but I was open to it. But now....it just looks squat and like any other log flume.

Then there's Disney's big push on the attraction backstory. I love hidden backstories to discover, but Disney has decided to make this front and center. And such a confusing an unexciting backstory. Tiana always wanted to open her own restaurant, but now she is a part-owner of a food supply chain that operates out of a derelict salt mine. That's like Captain Ahab running a frozen fish-stick company out of an old church. It feels clunky and like it is forced to justify the ride featuring human Tiana in a mountain with no danger in the story.

I loved Splash and have a bias to be sure, but also Disney has done nothing to get me excited for this replacement. If it was the book report overlay that went viral years back, I would have felt it was lazy, but I would also be excited for how they would accomplish the scenes and sequences. I would look forward to what fun/spooky events they'd find with Facilier and the shadows. But as of now, Disney's hasn't given me anything to fuel anticipation. We have a kid playing a drum set, Tiana doing a George Washington impression, and a critter band all bunched together. Oh, and Mama Odie joyfully singing to us as we go over a waterfall and fall 5 stories.

The dismissal of this overlay isn't purely out of spite because people love Splash it because people are "anti-woke," it's also because of Disney's track record and what they themselves have decided to share.

And can we all agree that the name is terrible? I was hoping TBA was a cute way of saying the name would be announced later. But nope. Mardis Gras Mountain shall never be.

And the ride technically doesn’t exist, hence dismissing something that doesn’t even exist yet is ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.

I’m so tired of seeing “woke” everywhere. Y’all don’t even know what it means.

No “we” here. I don’t think the name is terrible at all, and the artwork isn’t “bland.” If this is bland, then “Splash Mountain” is an uninspiring snooze fest.

I’ll continue to be one of very few people here who will actually wait to actually ride this when it opens before making such sweeping judgements and statements. Again, the ride doesn’t even exist yet.

 

[Californian Elitist]

It's hard to pin down what exactly the attraction will be.

I disagree. Based on the wording, it’s been made clear what the core of the attraction is about.

 

[Professortango1]

And the ride technically doesn’t exist, hence dismissing something that doesn’t even exist yet is ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.

I’m so tired of seeing “woke” everywhere. Y’all don’t even know what it means.

No “we” here. I don’t think the name is terrible at all, and the artwork isn’t “bland.” If this is bland, then “Splash Mountain” is an uninspiring snooze fest.

I’ll continue to be one of very few people here who will actually wait to actually ride this when it opens before making such sweeping judgements and statements. Again, the ride doesn’t even exist yet.

You do realize that the reason Disney releases art and articles is to build hype, right? For a "ride that doesn't exist yet " So if Disney can expect people to be hyped, isn't it fair to also be unenthusiastic based off the same releases?

And I put anti-woke in quotes for a reason.

I know you have your own personal axe to grind regarding Splash and that's fine, but it's a bit silly to dismiss people for having opinions on what Disney has released. That's like someone seeing a trailer for a movie and saying "that doesn't look good" and responding with "but the movie doesn't exist yet!!!" Or seeing an item in the menu that looks good and saying "but that food hasn't even been made yet."

Marketing has a purpose and it's legitimate to form opinions based upon the marketing. They aren't always 100% accurate, but they are accurate enough in most cases for people to continue to do so

 

[Californian Elitist]

For those who have dismissed the ride, despite it not even existing and never having ridden it, because…again…. It. Doesn’t. Exist… I would assume that you won’t be riding it when it opens. Because who willingly rides something that’s bad, right? That’s weird.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

And can we all agree that the name is terrible? I was hoping TBA was a cute way of saying the name would be announced later. But nope. Mardis Gras Mountain shall never be.

Mardi Gras Mountain is such a better name.

 

[Californian Elitist]

You do realize that the reason Disney releases art and articles is to build hype, right? For a "ride that doesn't exist yet " So if Disney can expect people to be hyped, isn't it fair to also be unenthusiastic based off the same releases?

And I put anti-woke in quotes for a reason.

I know you have your own personal axe to grind regarding Splash and that's fine, but it's a bit silly to dismiss people for having opinions on what Disney has released. That's like someone seeing a trailer for a movie and saying "that doesn't look good" and responding with "but the movie doesn't exist yet!!!" Or seeing an item in the menu that looks good and saying "but that food hasn't even been made yet."

Marketing has a purpose and it's legitimate to form opinions based upon the marketing. They aren't always 100% accurate, but they are accurate enough in most cases for people to continue to do so

No, I had no idea Disney attempts to build hype when they make announcements.

You’re not hyped, but plenty of other people are. So they’re doing something right. Just because you’ve dismissed it for your personal reasons and aren’t hyped, it doesn’t mean others have done the same and aren’t hyped either.

Why did you put it in quotes?

I have no personal axe to grind with a theme park ride. Why would I have a personal axe to grind with a theme park ride, especially an extinct one? So you can dismiss this project, but you attempt to criticize me for dismissing others’ opinions, which I’m it even doing? Huh? I’m challenging your opinions, not dismissing them. Calling your dismissal of a ride that doesn’t exist “ridiculous” doesn’t mean I’m “dismissing” your opinion. Now you’ve changed the subject and now you’re solely talking about what Disney has released? If that were the case, then why are you dismissing the ride altogether? You just said you’re dismissing the ride, no? You said you’re dismissing the ride because of Disney’s track record with re-themes. Because you don’t like the recent re-themes, that’s call for dismissal of TBA, despite it not existing and therefore you’ve never ridden it, because it’s a re-theme.

I’m not sure what the last part of your post has to do with what we’re discussing.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

Because who willingly rides something that’s bad, right? That’s weird.

Parents whose kids want to ride it.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Parents whose kids want to ride it.

Remove kids from the equation. Let’s be honest, many of us don’t have kids, and even folks with kids don’t go to the parks because their kids want to and they don’t.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

and even folks with kids don’t go to the parks because their kids want to and they don’t.

That's not my experience. I know plenty of adults who'd rather go to the dentist than to Disney World, who still took their kids every couple years. I personally didn't like Splash Mountain because I don't enjoy getting wet in the parks. Guess who has two thumbs and still wound up riding Splash Mountain every time he was in Disneyland? *this guy*

 

[Californian Elitist]

That's not my experience. I know plenty of adults who'd rather go to the dentist than to Disney World, who still took their kids every couple years.

I’m referring to the people posting in this thread, in the Disneyland sub-forum, on WDWMagic.

 

[Professortango1]

No, I had no idea Disney attempts to build hype when they make announcements.

You’re not hyped, but plenty of other people are. So they’re doing something right. Just because you’ve dismissed it for your personal reasons and aren’t hyped, it doesn’t mean others have done the same and aren’t hyped either.

Why did you put it in quotes?

I have no personal axe to grind with a theme park ride. Why would I have a personal axe to grind with a theme park ride, especially an extinct one? So you can dismiss this project, but you attempt to criticize me for dismissing others’ opinions, which I’m it even doing? Huh? I’m challenging your opinions, not dismissing them. Calling your dismissal of a ride that doesn’t exist “ridiculous” doesn’t mean I’m “dismissing” your opinion. Now you’ve changed the subject and now you’re solely talking about what Disney has released? If that were the case, then why are you dismissing the ride altogether? You just said you’re dismissing the ride, no? You said you’re dismissing the ride because of Disney’s track record with re-themes. Because you don’t like the recent re-themes, that’s call for dismissal of TBA, despite it not existing and therefore you’ve never ridden it, because it’s a re-theme.

I’m not sure what the last part of your post has to do with what we’re discussing.

You claimed people were dismissing the attraction due to an attachment to Splash. I explained how people are dismissing it for a variety of reasons, including the marketing Disney has released.

You then said the ride doesn't exist and it's silly to dismiss, negating the purpose of marketing.

And from your posts, I would say you have an axe to grind. You might not, but it is the impression you are giving off.

 

[Californian Elitist]

You claimed people were dismissing the attraction due to an attachment to Splash. I explained how people are dismissing it for a variety of reasons, including the marketing Disney has released.

You then said the ride doesn't exist and it's silly to dismiss, negating the purpose of marketing.

And from your posts, I would say you have an axe to grind. You might not, but it is the impression you are giving off.

And I replied with dismissing it at all, no matter what the reason is, doesn’t make any sense because it doesn’t exist. It absolutely is silly to dismiss. How are you (not you directly) making staunch statements about an experience that doesn’t exist yet? Literally no one has ridden the ride because it’s literally impossible. There is no ride. I’m specifically referring to those types of comments. Not general criticisms of the artwork and such.

I don’t have an axe to grind with an extinct theme park ride. Whether you choose to believe that or not, that’s up to you. It doesn’t affect me either way. What agenda or ulterior motive would I have surrounding a theme park ride that is no longer here? I’m one of just two posters here continuously challenging the constant negativity. I can be passionate in my responses, and I’m always ready to challenge what folks are saying in this thread. If folks don’t like what I have to say, the MK version of this thread is a safe haven for others who are also dismissing the ride before it’s opened. And I don’t post in that thread. Yaaay.

 

[Professortango1]

And I replied with dismissing it at all, no matter what the reason is, doesn’t make any sense because it doesn’t exist. It absolutely is silly to dismiss. How are you (not you directly) making staunch statements about an experience that doesn’t exist yet? Literally no one has ridden the ride because it’s literally impossible. There is no ride. I’m specifically referring to those types of comments. Not general criticisms of the artwork and such.

The same way people say a movie doesn't look good or a meal doesn't look good based on the marketing.

Consumers making judgements about the quality of an experience they haven't experienced based on marketing is the norm. Not sure why the concept eludes you.

Also, do you "challenge" those who are excited for the ride which doesn't exist, or only those who are disappointed in the marketing?

 

[Rich T]

A win aside from the fact that they spent a few hundred million on a lateral move.

I agree, but in Disney’s defense (and I am no fan of the clumsy, repetitive corporate behemoth Disney’s become), it’s a lateral move they needed to make sooner or later (unintentional Splash queue music reference).

 

[Rich T]

Isn't it funny to realize that's what we've been reduced to as Disneyland fans by the current leaders in WDI and TDA?

Hoping something is mediocre at worst, competent at best? Can you imagine if that was Walt's guiding principle for building Disneyland in the 1950's and expanding it in the 1960's?

"Give the people something mediocre at worst, competent at best." -Walt Disney, 1955

As a Classic-Disney fan, I personally am *hoping* Tiana’s Bayou Adventure turns out amazing, surprising and delightful.

But I’m also aware that I haven’t been amazed and delighted by anything Disney’s created for the parks since Flight of Passage (and I loved that ride even though I have zero interest in Avatar or the queue’s convoluted and unnecessary backstory).

The Disney community has many, many fans who complain about Disney yet continue to visit the parks and hand over their money over and over again. Which, to Disney, is interpreted as a huge thumbs up of approval.

I’ve mostly stopped going to Disney parks because I’m now having more fun at Universal and other Disney competitors. But I can always hope for the imagineers to do something amazing, yet be ready to shrug if they don’t—there are plenty of other great places for me to spend my dollars and leisure time.

 

[Rich T]

Mardi Gras Mountain is such a better name.

I would’ve simply chosen “Splash Mountain: Tiana’s Bayou Adventure” and then shortened it back to “Splash Mountain” after a couple of years.

 

[Honeycomb]

And can we all agree that the name is terrible? I was hoping TBA was a cute way of saying the name would be announced later. But nope. Mardis Gras Mountain shall never be.

My prediction was "Tiana's Bayou Bash." Guess I was close enough, but I do agree with you. We have Adventureland, Indiana Jones Adventure, California Adventure, probably more that I'm not remembering off the top of my head, and now Tiana's Bayou Adventure.

Guess we're all looking for a little adventure, eh?

 

[drizgirl]

My prediction was "Tiana's Bayou Bash." Guess I was close enough.

The co-op board probably wouldn't approve the request to host a bash at work.

 

[Honeycomb]

The co-op board probably wouldn't approve the request to host a bash at work.

Probably not, but I always imagined the Zip-A-Dee-Lady finale would become some sort of Mardi Gras party, since they told us that Tiana is throwing a party and all of us are invited, as well as that one piece of concept art.