Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

mickEblu

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And, I’m sorry, but the joy and happiness was not mechanical singing bunnies and geese. It was not a big fake mountain front. It was not recorded music playing from speakers. Joy and happiness comes from within guests,

Huh? So all of the different elements of the attraction combined wasn’t what was making guests happy? Lol. I’ve heard it all now when it comes to this Splash Mountain saga. But I guess that’s happens when you discuss the same subject everyday for 3+ years.
 
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Consumer

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I’d like to see the final product before deciding whether or not I think it’s a bust. My response to that update would be to point out that Splash Mountain could not continue into the future as the Song of the South ride. All the “joy and happiness” was unfortunately tied to a film Disney is understandably ashamed of.

And, I’m sorry, but the joy and happiness was not mechanical singing bunnies and geese. It was not a big fake mountain front. It was not recorded music playing from speakers. Joy and happiness comes from within guests, and any new project has the potential to bring that out. I have a feeling most guests are going to experience joy and happiness on Splash 2.0.
But the music, the characters, the vibe... that's what makes it happy.

I'm not gonna say Tiana's couldn't be a happy attraction, but WDI hasn't done a great job pitching this new ride to the public. People are excited for a Princess and the Frog ride, but I don't think anybody is excited about the employee-owned co-op. The attraction, as it's currently been pitched, sounds like it'll be preachy and dreadful. I don't think it actually will be because I know PR and reality rarely line up, but my point just being nobody at Disney is doing this upcoming attraction any favors.
 

mickEblu

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But the music, the characters, the vibe... that's what makes it happy.

I'm not gonna say Tiana's couldn't be a happy attraction, but WDI hasn't done a great job pitching this new ride to the public. People are excited for a Princess and the Frog ride, but I don't think anybody is excited about the employee-owned co-op. The attraction, as it's currently been pitched, sounds like it'll be preachy and dreadful. I don't think it actually will be because I know PR and reality rarely line up, but my point just being nobody at Disney is doing this upcoming attraction any favors.

Great take. It’ll end up being a happy-ish ride in spots and it’ll be a far cry from Splash in others. Even Disneys best work these days is a Mixed Bag. Sounds like it’ll be disappointing in comparison to what it could have been with the right priorities and right people in charge. But people will just be happy to have a happy/ thrilling log ride back after 2 years of scaffolding and silence and everyone here will say “told you so” on cue.
 

Californian Elitist

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But the music, the characters, the vibe... that's what makes it happy.

I'm not gonna say Tiana's couldn't be a happy attraction, but WDI hasn't done a great job pitching this new ride to the public. People are excited for a Princess and the Frog ride, but I don't think anybody is excited about the employee-owned co-op. The attraction, as it's currently been pitched, sounds like it'll be preachy and dreadful. I don't think it actually will be because I know PR and reality rarely line up, but my point just being nobody at Disney is doing this upcoming attraction any favors.
What’s preachy and dreadful about getting throwing a party during Mardi Gras? Nothing we’ve been told yet has suggested that the ride will be focused on the co-op. It appears to be backstory to explain why Tiana is giving the celebration. The focus is the celebration during Mardi Gras.
 
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Rich T

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Huh? So all of the different elements of the attraction combined wasn’t what was making guests happy? Lol. I’ve heard it all now when it comes to this Splash Mountain saga. But I guess that’s happens when you discuss the same subject everyday for 3+ years.
All those different elements are not “joy and happiness”. Emotions come from people. I’m just objecting to the wording. It’s like saying a candy bar is “joy and happiness.” No it’s not. It can make a person *feel* joy and happiness, but the bar is just chocolate and sugar.
 

Consumer

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What’s preachy dreadful about getting throwing a party during Mardi Gras? Nothing we’ve been told yet has suggested that the ride will be focused on the co-op. It appears to be backstory to explain why Tiana is giving the celebration. The focus is the celebration during Mardi Gras.
I feel like the fact I didn’t even know this was supposed to take place during Mardi Gras further proves my point about how bad the PR for this ride has been.
 

Californian Elitist

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I feel like the fact I didn’t even know this was supposed to take place during Mardi Gras further proves my point about how bad the PR for this ride has been.
So how did I know it, then? It seems you just haven’t been paying attention/haven’t been reading the few pieces that have come out about the ride. The Mardi Gras/celebration bits have been announced and mentioned various times.

Some folks have selective hearing (not saying you do) because they’re still in their feelings about the removal of Splash Mountain and probably want to stay in their feelings because it makes them feel good.
 

Rich T

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But the music, the characters, the vibe... that's what makes it happy.

I'm not gonna say Tiana's couldn't be a happy attraction…
I’m just objecting to the wording. Joy and happiness can be found anywhere, because people carry it within, and just because, say, a great broadway show closes doesn’t destroy all the happy memories or doom the theater to never being able to inspire great emotions with its next production.

I agree about the PR for the retheme. Hopefully they can fix that.
 

mickEblu

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All those different elements are not “joy and happiness”. Emotions come from people. I’m just objecting to the wording. It’s like saying a candy bar is “joy and happiness.” No it’s not. It can make a person *feel* joy and happiness, but the bar is just chocolate and sugar.

That’s just semantics. He obviously meant that the stuff that brought people joy is being ripped out for stuff that sounds not as fun. The way you phrased it by saying “I’m sorry” and reducing the attraction to robots and recorded music insinuates that you weren’t just pointing out a flaw in the wording but also trying to diminish the attraction by placing more importance on the people riding than the quality of the attraction when it comes to the outcome/ ride experience.
 
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Rich T

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..It’ll end up being a happy-ish ride in spots and it’ll be a far cry from Splash in others. Even Disneys best work these days is a Mixed Bag. Sounds like it’ll be disappointing in comparison to what it could have been with the right priorities and right people in charge. But people will just be happy to have a happy/ thrilling log ride back after 2 years of scaffolding and silence and everyone here will say “told you so” on cue.
Look, I’m no fan of Disney’s recent attractions, projects and announcements (“Smellephants!”), but I can’t see into the future, so I’m not going to say how good or bad I think it is/will be until it’s complete and open.

The Brer Rabbit version of the flume ride had its own share of flaws, after all (and was still a great ride in spite of that).
 

Rich T

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That’s just semantics. He obviously meant that the stuff that brought people joy is being ripped out for stuff that sounds not as fun. The way you phrased it by saying “I’m sorry” and reducing the attraction to robots and recorded music insinuates that you weren’t just pointing out a flaw in the wording but also trying to diminish the attraction by placing more importance on the people riding as opposed to the quality of the attraction when it comes to the outcome/ ride experience.
Fair enough, but I do think any work in progress has the potential to end up as creation that inspires happiness. A salt mine ride can be as fun as a swamp ride. It’s possible! I went back and removed the “I’m sorry” bit.
 

Californian Elitist

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Published on July 1, 2022, over a year ago:

First announced in 2020, Tiana’s Bayou Adventure will take guests on a musical adventure inspired by the beloved story and characters from the fan-favorite film. Picking up where the film left off, guests will join Princess Tiana, Naveen and jazz-loving alligator Louis on an adventure through the bayou as they prepare to host a one-of-a-kind Mardi Gras celebration where everyone is welcome. Along the way, guests will encounter familiar faces, make new friends and travel through the bayou to original music inspired by songs from the film as they are brought into the next chapter of Tiana’s story.


Published on August 22, 2022, almost exactly a year ago:

As we announced at ESSENCE Fest, Tiana’s Bayou Adventure is coming to Magic Kingdom Park in Florida and Disneyland Park in California in late 2024. Guests are joined by a cast of friends – new and familiar – as they prepare for their first-ever Mardi Gras performance.

From the D23 panel, September 2022, eleven months ago. Skip to 1:06. The crux of the ride is announced, yet again:



Published on December 2, 2022, eight months ago:

Today, I’m excited to give you a first look at a new scene and some of the brand-new characters we’re creating specifically for this attraction. In Tiana’s Bayou Adventure, you’ll join Princess Tiana and jazz-loving alligator Louis during Mardi Gras season as they prepare to host a one-of-a-kind celebration for the people of New Orleans.


Published on April 12, 2023, four months ago (this is the same article some folks had a fit over because of the WWI bullet point):

The magic of the bayou is calling, so listen closely because we’re “digging a little deeper” into the experience guests can expect from the future attraction coming to Disneyland Resort and Walt Disney World Resort, Tiana’s Bayou Adventure! The enchantment of the bayou will illuminate with a celebration during Mardi Gras season hosted by Princess Tiana and Prince Naveen.
Published on June 22, 2023, nearly two months ago, Joy Ofodu claims that she's in New Orleans to discover what inspired Tiana's Bayou Adventure. She goes on a bayou tour, pays a visit to Dookie Chase, the Historic New Orleans Collection, and the New Orleans Jazz Museum, and ends with Mardi Gras World to see how it's put together for the city each year. Now, why would she go to Mardi Gras World? Could it be because that's a key part of the ride? Hmmm...if she said she was in New Orleans to discover what inspired Tiana's Bayou Adventure, then, the various announcements aside, logic would tell us that Mardi Gras, indeed, plays a key role in the attraction.


If you don't actually read the announcements, just say that.
 

SuddenStorm

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That’s just semantics. He obviously meant that the stuff that brought people joy is being ripped out for stuff that sounds not as fun. The way you phrased it by saying “I’m sorry” and reducing the attraction to robots and recorded music insinuates that you weren’t just pointing out a flaw in the wording but also trying to diminish the attraction by placing more importance on the people riding than the quality of the attraction when it comes to the outcome/ ride experience.

Thank you for explaining this. I was reading through the last few comments trying to figure out why so much weight was being put on my choice of using the term 'joy and happiness'.

It's funny, Ratchat could have said "Zip a Dee Doo Dah is being ripped from the mountain to make way for a jazz filled adventure through the bayou" and it would sound far more positive.
 

mickEblu

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Fair enough, but I do think any work in progress has the potential to end up as creation that inspires happiness. A salt mine ride can be as fun as a swamp ride. It’s possible! I went back and removed the “I’m sorry” bit.

Sure it can be but why start from that starting point? Salt mines/ Co-ops etc. To me it shows a fundamental lack of understanding and that their priorities aren’t straight. To me it sounds like they re more interested in making this Inclusive: The Ride and less like a fun adventure. We also know the people at WDI and at the company are nowhere near the level of experience of the people that worked on Splash. We also have recent lackluster examples we can point to like MMRR. We also have the worst PR/ parks blogs ever created. There’s not much to inspire optimism aside from the fact that it still has Splash’s good bones and we know as theme park fans that back stories aren’t always felt on the ride experience.
 

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