Well, Disney even said back in the 2020 announcement, We pick up this story after the final kiss, so that already meant chances of Facilier coming back were low to begin with. Now, speculation is he was in the Louis focused 'Lost trumpet' plot, but now that we have the salt mine plot, that plot isn't being used anymore. Plus the models at D23 lack any indication he's there.
Thank you. The details that have been shared so far have all been related to things we don’t see in the original movie, with the exception of some returning characters. The salt mines, Tiana’s foods, the Mardi Gras party, new characters, and even the concept art with Tiana’s completely new look (new hairstyle, new outfit). This seems to be a project from nearly scratch.
I get that he likely won't be in there, the point I Was continuing was that he creatively could be and should be referenced and a part of some darker scene within.
If I may, I think your point is pretty well understood. Creatively they could have told any story they wanted including one that includes Facilier. They have apparently based on all reports and information given by Disney themselves have decided to go in a completely different direction. One that appears to move the story away from Facilier being the antagonist and propels the story forward. And honestly I personally think its a better creative choice to propel the story forward away from the movie than to try and reproduce beats from the movie.
Could it just be that it has nothing to do with concerns about representation?
No-one is saying it wasn’t considered. But lots of conclusions are being jumped to on the basis of not very much evidence.
Splash Mountain is not being removed over racial depictions.
If it would have nothing to do with a concern, that would imply it was not considered. Your post is the one who was saying it was not considered. To consider is to have some concern.
I’m not terribly surprised. Some people really want to subscribe to the idea that everything Disney does is motivated by a certain “agenda”.
That isn’t what I said or meant.
May not have been what you meant, but you posted it.
One would be a fool if you think Disney never thought "Maybe a character who is black and a dark magic con man" is not the best move never crossed their minds. No one is saying it is the only reason, but the company has shown a reputation for removing antagonistic black characters from the parks to avoid the issue altogether.
Yep. And if we look at decisions that Disney has made in the name of some sort of social-related issue, said issue has been a consistent one for a long period of time. SotS has been a problem since it released, harmful depictions of Africans has been a thing since forever, the Native Americans in Peter Pan, etc. Facilier’s character, in general, doesn’t have a bunch of constant and consistent stigma and negative connotations surrounding him. So, people are now coming up with very interesting theories related to race as to why Disney has made no mention of him being in the ride, when it’s 100% possible that he’s simply not in the ride because he’s not in the story. There’s no balance here.
