Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

[EagleScout610]

Exactly, it takes the narrative to a much darker place than the WDW version does which makes the happy finale have way more of an impact on an emotional level.

I think the WDW version gives more of a "No time to consider turning back " vibe

 

[Brer Panther]

And they are freaking everywhere in the Disneyland version. Especially that first showroom after the first drop, it's like there are dozens of singing geese all around you, singin' and struttin' and singin'. About something. How do you do?

That IS one thing that I'll say the Disneyland version has over the Magic Kingdom's - more animatronics.

 

[PizzaPlanet]

As someone who grew up with the MK version, the Burrow's Lament scene caught me off guard the first time I rode the DL version. It got so uncomfortably dark that I couldn't help but laugh, it was like a weird funeral for Brer Rabbit.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Got the following message from Disney Customer Service in my email about my disappointment with Splash Mountain Changes. My favorite part is how they quote Marty Sklar and Tony Baxter, both who have had their attractions ruined in recent years:





Thank you for your message regarding our operations at the Disneyland Resort as a dedicated Guest to our theme parks.

We appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with us about the recently announced changes to our Splash Mountain attraction. We would like to assure you that our goals for providing a happy and unique experience in our theme parks have remained constant throughout the years. One of the ways in which we attempt to maintain this goal is to continually evaluate the various aspects of our parks and make changes at times.

The theme for Splash Mountain has been a conversation among Imagineers for a while, and last summer, our Disney Imagineers landed on a concept that felt right – a new story inspired by The Princess and the Frog. While efforts were clearly under way, we decided the time to act was now. Particularly important today, the new concept is inclusive – one that all of our guests can connect with and be inspired by, and it speaks to the diversity of the millions of people who visit our parks each year.

Walt Disney embraced and encouraged change at the park and spoke about the need to “keep moving forward” down new paths, always with an eye toward enhancing and improving the guest experience. Keeping our stories relevant and providing more reasons to return is done in this same spirit – a philosophy embraced by Imagineers through the years, including Disney Legends Marty Sklar and Tony Baxter.

As diverse as the millions of visitors are who come to the Disneyland Resort each year, so are the reactions and opinions of our Guests, and it is always our goal to provide a show that appeals to all who visit. Please be assured that your feedback is very important to us and we appreciate you taking the time to write. We hope that you will continue to follow the developments of the Disneyland Resort.

Marty Sklar was publicity/design/head of operations. To my understanding, he supervised things at a high level but was never, say, an attraction lead. Thus, he didn't really have any attractions that were "his" perse.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Marty Sklar was publicity/design/head of operations. To my understanding, he supervised things at a high level but was never, say, an attraction lead. Thus, he didn't really have any attractions that were "his" perse.

But he was willing to lie and attack fans to defend dubious creative choices.

 

[Brer Panther]

Got the following message from Disney Customer Service in my email about my disappointment with Splash Mountain Changes. My favorite part is how they quote Marty Sklar and Tony Baxter, both who have had their attractions ruined in recent years:





Thank you for your message regarding our operations at the Disneyland Resort as a dedicated Guest to our theme parks.

We appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with us about the recently announced changes to our Splash Mountain attraction. We would like to assure you that our goals for providing a happy and unique experience in our theme parks have remained constant throughout the years. One of the ways in which we attempt to maintain this goal is to continually evaluate the various aspects of our parks and make changes at times.

The theme for Splash Mountain has been a conversation among Imagineers for a while, and last summer, our Disney Imagineers landed on a concept that felt right – a new story inspired by The Princess and the Frog. While efforts were clearly under way, we decided the time to act was now. Particularly important today, the new concept is inclusive – one that all of our guests can connect with and be inspired by, and it speaks to the diversity of the millions of people who visit our parks each year.

Walt Disney embraced and encouraged change at the park and spoke about the need to “keep moving forward” down new paths, always with an eye toward enhancing and improving the guest experience. Keeping our stories relevant and providing more reasons to return is done in this same spirit – a philosophy embraced by Imagineers through the years, including Disney Legends Marty Sklar and Tony Baxter.

As diverse as the millions of visitors are who come to the Disneyland Resort each year, so are the reactions and opinions of our Guests, and it is always our goal to provide a show that appeals to all who visit. Please be assured that your feedback is very important to us and we appreciate you taking the time to write. We hope that you will continue to follow the developments of the Disneyland Resort.

Isn't that the exact same reply that most of the other users on this site who emailed to complain about the Splash Mountain retheme got as a response?

 

[SplashGhost]

It seems their form letters always point out how "inclusive" the overlay will be, and they try to justify it using quotes from either Walt or respected Imagineers. The whole "inclusive" thing is a buzz word so Disney can try to act woke.

I haven't bothered sending an email since I'm sure that I will get the same form letter they are sending everyone else. Plus, the people that get the emails aren't the people with any control over the actual decision.

I have been thinking, and I wonder if one of the reasons that Chapek went for this overlay is to save money on maintenance. This overlay is sure to have far less audio animatronics and practical effects than Splash Mountain currently has, and it is far cheaper to maintain screens than it is to maintain AAs.

It is so sad that not only is Disney no longer building attractions filled with great AAs, they are also removing the ones they do have.

 

[PiratesMansion]

I thought Pirates was his baby? Guess I'm mistaken.

Pirates involved many people but was primarily the work of Marc Davis and Claude Coats.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

It seems their form letters always point out how "inclusive" the overlay will be, and they try to justify it using quotes from either Walt or respected Imagineers. The whole "inclusive" thing is a buzz word so Disney can try to act woke.

I haven't bothered sending an email since I'm sure that I will get the same form letter they are sending everyone else. Plus, the people that get the emails aren't the people with any control over the actual decision.

I have been thinking, and I wonder if one of the reasons that Chapek went for this overlay is to save money on maintenance. This overlay is sure to have far less audio animatronics and practical effects than Splash Mountain currently has, and it is far cheaper to maintain screens than it is to maintain AAs.

It is so sad that not only is Disney no longer building attractions filled with great AAs, they are also removing the ones they do have.

You bring up a good point, this could totally be a good excuse for them to save money on maintenance. Would also explain why Tokyo is OK leaving Splash as is, as they don't mind maintaining their rides.

Even look at Indy which had a cool effect completely taken out of the ride to cut expenses (rotating entry doors).

I wonder if this will continue to be the trend.

Unfortunately, i'd be willing to bet it will be. Towers effects were removed and replaced with screens - save for the talking racoon. Incredicoaster uses plastic props and jack jacks on a stick. Hyperspace mountain was all projections and some music changes.

Disney world maintenance on the other hand is an absolute joke. At least TDA usually does a decent job fixing up stuff - the stuff they haven't already ruined with IP advertisement.

 

[SplashGhost]

You bring up a good point, this could totally be a good excuse for them to save money on maintenance. Would also explain why Tokyo is OK leaving Splash as is, as they don't mind maintaining their rides.

Even look at Indy which had a cool effect completely taken out of the ride to cut expenses (rotating entry doors).

I wonder if this will continue to be the trend.

The only new ride that seems like it would be maintenance heavy would be Rise of the Resistance, and that is just because it is different ride systems put together that all have to work at the same time. No single part of the ride is that complicated.

I'm surprised we even get things like the Rocket Raccoon AA in Guardians anymore. There is a B mode show that is screen only for when the AA isn't working. I can imagine future budget cuts causing that version to become the regular preshow, but hopefully that doesn't happen.

TDA still has major maintenance issues. The actual coaster for the Incredicoaster is much newer than many of the coasters at Magic Mountain, yet it is somehow more rough than most of them despite it being a far less intense ride than some of their older stuff like Viper.

 

[EagleScout610]

Got the following message from Disney Customer Service in my email about my disappointment with Splash Mountain Changes. My favorite part is how they quote Marty Sklar and Tony Baxter, both who have had their attractions ruined in recent years:





Thank you for your message regarding our operations at the Disneyland Resort as a dedicated Guest to our theme parks.

We appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with us about the recently announced changes to our Splash Mountain attraction. We would like to assure you that our goals for providing a happy and unique experience in our theme parks have remained constant throughout the years. One of the ways in which we attempt to maintain this goal is to continually evaluate the various aspects of our parks and make changes at times.

The theme for Splash Mountain has been a conversation among Imagineers for a while, and last summer, our Disney Imagineers landed on a concept that felt right – a new story inspired by The Princess and the Frog. While efforts were clearly under way, we decided the time to act was now. Particularly important today, the new concept is inclusive – one that all of our guests can connect with and be inspired by, and it speaks to the diversity of the millions of people who visit our parks each year.

Walt Disney embraced and encouraged change at the park and spoke about the need to “keep moving forward” down new paths, always with an eye toward enhancing and improving the guest experience. Keeping our stories relevant and providing more reasons to return is done in this same spirit – a philosophy embraced by Imagineers through the years, including Disney Legends Marty Sklar and Tony Baxter.

As diverse as the millions of visitors are who come to the Disneyland Resort each year, so are the reactions and opinions of our Guests, and it is always our goal to provide a show that appeals to all who visit. Please be assured that your feedback is very important to us and we appreciate you taking the time to write. We hope that you will continue to follow the developments of the Disneyland Resort.

If you had the "Walt Quote about change" square open, mark a bingo

 

[EagleScout610]

Anyone remember back in like 2016/17 every time Splash would refurb there would be an outcry for a Zootopia retheme?

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

Got the following message from Disney Customer Service in my email about my disappointment with Splash Mountain Changes. My favorite part is how they quote Marty Sklar and Tony Baxter, both who have had their attractions ruined in recent years:





Thank you for your message regarding our operations at the Disneyland Resort as a dedicated Guest to our theme parks.

We appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with us about the recently announced changes to our Splash Mountain attraction. We would like to assure you that our goals for providing a happy and unique experience in our theme parks have remained constant throughout the years. One of the ways in which we attempt to maintain this goal is to continually evaluate the various aspects of our parks and make changes at times.

The theme for Splash Mountain has been a conversation among Imagineers for a while, and last summer, our Disney Imagineers landed on a concept that felt right – a new story inspired by The Princess and the Frog. While efforts were clearly under way, we decided the time to act was now. Particularly important today, the new concept is inclusive – one that all of our guests can connect with and be inspired by, and it speaks to the diversity of the millions of people who visit our parks each year.

Walt Disney embraced and encouraged change at the park and spoke about the need to “keep moving forward” down new paths, always with an eye toward enhancing and improving the guest experience. Keeping our stories relevant and providing more reasons to return is done in this same spirit – a philosophy embraced by Imagineers through the years, including Disney Legends Marty Sklar and Tony Baxter.

As diverse as the millions of visitors are who come to the Disneyland Resort each year, so are the reactions and opinions of our Guests, and it is always our goal to provide a show that appeals to all who visit. Please be assured that your feedback is very important to us and we appreciate you taking the time to write. We hope that you will continue to follow the developments of the Disneyland Resort.

This is just the general plug and play response email others have gotten. word for word. the same email.

 

[mickEblu]

This is just the general plug and play response email others have gotten. word for word. the same email.

Miss Georgia is our only hope. Everyone needs to send them a link to that YouTube video.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

Miss Georgia is our only hope. Everyone needs to send them a link to that YouTube video.

what video are you referring to?

 

[mickEblu]

what video are you referring to?

There was a video of an older Black woman talking about how she doesn’t want to lose those Brer Rabbit stories because they are part of her heritage. I don’t remember where I saw it. Here on one of these threads I think.

 

[MisterPenguin]

There was a video of an older Black woman talking about how she doesn’t want to lose those Brer Rabbit stories because they are part of her heritage. I don’t remember where I saw it. Here on one of these threads I think.

Check the thread that went into the politics section of the forums.

 

[mickEblu]

what video are you referring to?

Here it is

 

[mickEblu]

I think if we all keep sharing a link to this video probably does more good than sharing our personal sob stories even if the chances are still slim regardless.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

Here it is

Will check it out. Thanks