Dear Prudence
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There are several restaurants in NOS they can just retheme. They don't need to tear down an attraction.
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Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion
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mickEblu
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I think I kind of acknowledge that in my post no? Besides my opinion isn't based off the morning show alone but all the press releases so far that seem to really stress celebration, Black excellence and the fact the attraction is set after the events of the movie. So not very much hope for someone who wants Facilier and his goons to show up. And if not him/them then I don't see them making up a new villain for this ride when they could use the great one with a great song that already exists in the movie. Not to mention WDI's recent track record of not including villains in new attractions or at least not giving them much spotlight. Or just how they have been making things less macabre like with TOT and the Snow White re-theme. Granted you can kind of rationalize all of them...
BATB- is a ride system to make us feel like we re dancing through all of the songs and Gaston isn't really the kind of villain that translates on a ride.
Snow White - they kept a good amount of the witch and you can play Devils advocate and see why they wanted to tone down the scariness for children.
TOT - Was just unlucky and was at the wrong place at the wrong time. The goal wasn't to make it "less scary."
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Brer Panther
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I still think having Louis encounter the Rougarou wouldn't be a bad idea. It'd be a reference to an actual Louisiana myth, if nothing else.
Disney_TX_Guy
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Just in case no one had seen it, here is DSNY Newscast's analysis of the latest details about the ride.
truecoat
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I don't know what it is but I can't watch DSNY videos. I can't put my finger on it but I just can't watch them.
Dear Prudence
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Snow White lost the scary trees (which were looking cheap anyway), but there are whole sections of the attraction that are still pretty scary. In fact, the turn around transformation jump scare, which many, many people said was the scariest part of the ride, is still there. Gaston on BATB doesn't really suit the tone of the attraction, but the images of the mob through the windows and then trying to break into the castle is pretty alarming--esp. considering how fluffy the rest of the attraction has been thus far. Both of those examples still maintain some degree of dynamic storytelling. It seems like Splash might be losing the villain aspect because they keep making an emphasis on "celebration"--whatever that means. It would be sad to see some level of peril absent from the ascent and the drop.
Professortango1
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Hard disagree. The two with pop outs were the scarier potion as she was jumping out from hidden locations to accost us. Those were removed. One so badly that there's a random projection mirror under the still existing bridge. The pursuit through the woods was a thrilling moment for kids. Now it is gone. The skeletons which once adorned the passages through her lair are gone and replaced with mad scientists motifs.
Snow White is exactly why I am worried about this upcoming retheme. The new version lacks focus and many of the changes are done in cheap cost-cutting ways. They took one of my favourite FL darkrides and turned it into something not worth the walk on wait. We saw a similar lack of attention to detail and cost-cutting with Mission BO. I'm worried this will be a bloated version of Ariel's Under the Sea Adventure. One note, passive, and feeling lifeless.
Disney Analyst
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Hard disagree.
Snow White's refurb was exactly what the attraction needed. Some spooky elements still remain, it has a far more satisfying climax and ending, and has utilized modern elements nicely.
And by most accounts, the refurb has been praised by the majority.
I am sorry you don't like the changes, but I think the ride is much improved.
Professortango1
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I don't disagree that the general public has liked the new version more. They also eat up Mission BO. And would prefer a version of Toad without Hell. The general public is why Alien Encounter was turned into Stitch.
Splash Mountain had some fun with the tones. It was okay to get a bit scary. The burrow's lament helped sell this mood shift. A mood shift they felt the need to excise from the WDW version to play better to the general public. I wouldn't be surprised if most future Disney attractions focus on fluffy and stray far from anything anyone might feel is controversial or "inappropriate." We'll see attractions like Frozen Ever After and The Enchanted Tale of Beauty and the Beast that feature impressive AA's and sets, but lack storytelling and conflict. The general audience will eat it up, but its clearly not the same level of artistry and storytelling which once existed within Disney.
I'm all for change when needed. I supported the change of the slave auction in Pirates and understood the change to the natives in JC. But, nobody can say that what replaced those sequences are good nor fulfil the same beats that existed prior. We are no longer attacked or in danger, we just see monkeys. We no longer have a moment of comedy, even if cruel-hearted, with the auctioneer and instead have a good-looking AA Red and a sloppy dialogue track devoid of comedy and punch.
Disney has been pretty consistent in watering down their attractions and most of us can see the writing on the wall for TBA.
I found the climax of killing the witch and escaping to perfect. With the majority of the ride being about the witch watching and trying to kill us, having her stopped was the fitting ending.
Brer Panther
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The Beauty and the Beast ride barely has a plot. Most of it is spent spinning around in gigantic rooms to songs from the movie. The "Something There" scene is just so big and empty.
IveBeenJack
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It's Jack from DSNY here. Would love to know more about what about my videos makes them "unwatchable". Trust me, I can take criticism. I just want feedback.
Ghost93
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mickEblu
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Hey Jack I enjoy your videos! Many vloggers are way over the top with cartoon voices and are enthusiastic about every.single.thing. This is not you. The Only issue I see is that you’re not making enough videos.
Truly enjoy your updates. Keep at it Jack!
And props to you for willing to solicit feedback
BuzzedPotatoHead89
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I personally love your videos. And I am not shy to share my opinions.
You seem like one of the more down-to-earth bloggers I’ve seen and while I do sense you hold back on your critique of the current TWDC leadership (which is understandable) I think that’s because of the news update format and the fact you still share info in a refreshing way that comes across as a “just the facts” straightforward delivery which is convenient way to digest information without the editorialization. Though I also like your in-depth armchair imagineering videos, too.
Keep the videos coming and know you can’t please everyone!
TP2000
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I vote for French Market. It has a building that's big enough to support a facade retheme, plus a patio with bandstand that can host jazzy entertainment. Also a menu that is usually forgettable and needs help.
I know what you are saying. I generally agree.
Bravo to you for asking! I really admire you for that.
I think what you may be running up against is the typical Disneyland cultural issue. I believe your British accent instantly brands you as a non-local. And Disneyland is inherently local to SoCal, with a bunch of other fans who live in the Western US states who vacation here regularly and thus get the local culture and vibe. While there's a subtle difference between a Seattleite and a San Diegan, they share a basic bedrock West Coast culture, and there's a more dramatic difference between a New Yorker or Floridian and a Californian. I'm a native West Coaster, but I lived on the East Coast for many years and also know the WDW scene. The Disneyland scene is dramatically different than the WDW scene. Your videos, through no fault of your own, sound distinctly non-local to us. And I'm not just talking about the British accent, but the overall tone. It's so hard to describe, but it's there.
I'm not sure there's anything you can do about it however. Although, it would be really funny if you poked fun at us Californians a bit and tried this accent on for a laugh or two...
truecoat
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I think the easiest way to say it is that it's not you, it's me. Your channel has a professional look and provides great info from what I've seen but it doesn't work for me.
truecoat
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I vote for French Market. It has a building that's big enough to support a facade retheme, plus a patio with bandstand that can host jazzy entertainment. Also a menu that is usually forgettable and needs help.
I know what you are saying. I generally agree.
Bravo to you for asking! I really admire you for that.
I think what you may be running up against is the typical Disneyland cultural issue. I believe your British accent instantly brands you as a non-local. And Disneyland is inherently local to SoCal, with a bunch of other fans who live in the Western US states who vacation here regularly and thus get the local culture and vibe. While there's a subtle difference between a Seattleite and a San Diegan, they share a basic bedrock West Coast culture, and there's a more dramatic difference between a New Yorker or Floridian and a Californian. I'm a native West Coaster, but I lived on the East Coast for many years and also know the WDW scene. The Disneyland scene is dramatically different than the WDW scene. Your videos, through no fault of your own, sound distinctly non-local to us. And I'm not just talking about the British accent, but the overall tone. It's so hard to describe, but it's there.
I'm not sure there's anything you can do about it however. Although, it would be really funny if you poked fun at us Californians a bit and tried this accent on for a laugh or two...
Just get on the 10 and get out of here!