Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

Dear Prudence

Dear Prudence

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Brer Panther said:
The Disneyland version also has Brer Rabbit, Brer Fox, and Brer Bear's houses before you go down the first waterfall.

I wonder what they'll do to that part... maybe replace Brer Bear's house with Louis' so they can keep the Rufus snoring?
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"BUT IT'S THE SAME RIDE IN BOTH PARKS" [sarcasm about gaslighting in this thread from about 4 months ago]

Also, that's an interesting set of questions. They look like Bayou houses, so they'd keep in the theme.

Also, the Snow White refurbishment gave us a plethora of little animal friends (which I'm alllll about). I hope the swamp creatures that came to Tiana’s wedding make a cameo somewhere in the revamp.
 
Too Many Hats

Too Many Hats

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Dear Prudence said:
It's funny because I literally said this before in this thread and everyone acted like I was nuts. But, honestly, great minds. dlr Splash is literally a completely different ride than wdw.
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Haha, all my posts stand on the shoulders of giants, of course.

Just felt compelled to defend the legitimacy of the discussion topic. It’s actually one of the things about this project that’s most interesting to me. Perhaps I’m missing an obvious example but I can’t think of any other times Disney or Universal did “the same” overlay on both coasts using very different existing infrastructures.

I guess Revenge of the Mummy is kind of an example of this. In that case, the Kong and ET show buildings were so dissimilar in size that Universal designed several unique AAs and effects for each coast.
 
Dear Prudence

Dear Prudence

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Ne'er-Do-Well Cad said:
Haha, all my posts stand on the shoulders of giants, of course.

Just felt compelled to defend the legitimacy of the discussion topic. It’s actually one of the things about this project that’s most interesting to me. Perhaps I’m missing an obvious example but I can’t think of any other times Disney or Universal did “the same” overlay on both coasts using very different existing infrastructures.

I guess Revenge of the Mummy is kind of an example of this. In that case, the Kong and ET show buildings were so dissimilar in size that Universal designed several unique AAs and effects for each coast.
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It's a legitimate concern! I also think it's why they're taking so long. DLR and WDW use totally different story telling techniques. DLR relies more on dialog and WDW / TDL are more visual. DLR looks more like the source material and WDW looks more generic. If it weren't something I was so attached to, I'd love to have a challenge like that. The beauty of the two US versions is that they are so different, even the music is different. Critter Country is supposed to look and feel like Northern CA, Splash in WDW is supposed to look like the red dirt of Oklahoma. If all the attractions are just cookie cutter in every park, there's no reason to visit them.
 
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Midwest Elitist

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Dear Prudence said:
It's a legitimate concern! I also think it's why they're taking so long. DLR and WDW use totally different story telling techniques. DLR relies more on dialog and WDW / TDL are more visual. DLR looks more like the source material and WDW looks more generic. If it weren't something I was so attached to, I'd love to have a challenge like that. The beauty of the two US versions is that they are so different, even the music is different. Critter Country is supposed to look and feel like Northern CA, Splash in WDW is supposed to look like the red dirt of Oklahoma. If all the attractions are just cookie cutter in every park, there's no reason to visit them.
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This is the thing about the whole "Splash never fit in to Frontierland". They are right, it didn't, but they made it fit with both the theming and music
 
Dear Prudence

Dear Prudence

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Midwest Elitist said:
This is the thing about the whole "Splash never fit in to Frontierland". They are right, it didn't, but they made it fit with both the theming and music
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The only person who made that argument make sense was @BrerCountry because they're FROM NOLA and their arguments ACTUALLY made sense (and everyone shot them down lol). (Frontierland still even being a thing in 2022 is honestly questionable to me, but that's a whole other point, LOL). They'll shoehorn TBA in WDW somehow. HOW WELL is to be seen.
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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Brer Panther said:
The Disneyland version also has Brer Rabbit, Brer Fox, and Brer Bear's houses before you go down the first waterfall.

I wonder what they'll do to that part... maybe replace Brer Bear's house with Louis' so they can keep the Rufus snoring?
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This is the kind of stuff that makes me sad all over again. Not that I'm completely over it but thinking of losing the little details that aren't necessarily the first things on our mind when we think of the retheme and what's being lost. Deep Cut if you will. The whole beginning of the ride through the first drop is really just a relaxing and great set up for the ride with just atmosphere and a great soundtrack. Hoping they don't over story the beginning of the ride and let it build and breathe.
 
Brer Panther

Brer Panther

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Dear Prudence said:
Also, the Snow White refurbishment gave us a plethora of little animal friends (which I'm alllll about). I hope the swamp creatures that came to Tiana’s wedding make a cameo somewhere in the revamp.
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I'm guessing they'll be some little swamp critters (like the ones that were at the wedding) even if most of the animatronics already in the ride get trashed. They probably won't be very impressive, though... like, on par with the fish in the "Under the Sea" sequence of the Little Mermaid ride. Hard plastic figures with limited movement.
 
Too Many Hats

Too Many Hats

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Dear Prudence said:
I also think it's why they're taking so long.
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Definitely. Even if Imagineering is designing identical scenes/AAs/projections for each coast, they need to navigate positioning/installing these effects into different infrastructures.

Dear Prudence said:
If all the attractions are just cookie cutter in every park, there's no reason to visit them.
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Agreed!
 
Too Many Hats

Too Many Hats

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Like everyone else, I constantly fantasize about "fixing" the problematic corners of Disneyland, but I'm not sure I even know what I'd like them to do with post-Splash Critter Country.

At this point, I'm not even sure what the theme of that area is supposed to be... I mean, why on earth is Davy Crockett classified as a Critter Country attraction?

Not sure I'd agree with expanding New Orleans Square to include Tiana, even though it obviously makes thematic sense. Seems awkward that a "square" would comprise so much real estate (and extend into the wilderness). And this would leave Pooh as the sole anchor of Critter Country, which would be strange.

I still believe Pooh belongs in Fantasyland. So how about bulldozing the Fantasyland Theatre and replacing it with a plussed-up Pooh. Critter Country survives, and is henceforth comprised of Tiana's Bayou Adventure and (on the old Pooh plot) Geyser Mountain presented by the Country Bears (?).
 
D.Silentu

D.Silentu

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Ne'er-Do-Well Cad said:
At this point, I'm not even sure what the theme of that area is supposed to be... I mean, why on earth is Davy Crockett classified as a Critter Country attraction?

Not sure I'd agree with expanding New Orleans Square to include Tiana...
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I appreciate the mention of this. I don't really think Critter County was ever a solidly themed area, which is why they chose animals as the connection. Based on the ride's concept art being full of wildlife they probably can get away with keeping the name and at the moment I can't think of a better alternative.

As for expanding New Orleans Square, I also don't think it's necessary. As others have proposed, the Tiana ride's connection to the area is probably best left as a sort of transitional borderland.
 
Disney Analyst

Disney Analyst

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Ne'er-Do-Well Cad said:
Like everyone else, I constantly fantasize about "fixing" the problematic corners of Disneyland, but I'm not sure I even know what I'd like them to do with post-Splash Critter Country.

At this point, I'm not even sure what the theme of that area is supposed to be... I mean, why on earth is Davy Crockett classified as a Critter Country attraction?

Not sure I'd agree with expanding New Orleans Square to include Tiana, even though it obviously makes thematic sense. Seems awkward that a "square" would comprise so much real estate (and extend into the wilderness). And this would leave Pooh as the sole anchor of Critter Country, which would be strange.

I still believe Pooh belongs in Fantasyland. So how about bulldozing the Fantasyland Theatre and replacing it with a plussed-up Pooh. Critter Country survives, and is henceforth comprised of Tiana's Bayou Adventure and (on the old Pooh plot) Geyser Mountain presented by the Country Bears (?).
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This is why I think you make that corner a subsection of New Orleans square, call it The Bayou.
 
yensidtlaw1969

yensidtlaw1969

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mickEblu said:
We're keeping the drop? Singular? What about the other two? lol. Funny they included that line to reassure people who thought the big drop might be going away- which to my knowledge was just about nobody and now have me wondering why they only mentioned the last drop. Not that I really think they’d get rid of the other two especially when keeping the big one.

Also her explanation of keeping the drop was "we want this to be a big celebration." Yeah, its a log ride through Happy Town, I'm convinced. I guess im just a fan of the old way they did stuff. When they understood the value of a nice emotional arc. Never mind the fact that Splash Mountain is a purpose built attraction with the drops placed at strategic story points. It would be kind of crazy for all the Fantasyland dark rides to have some sense of drama/ conflict but the thrill ride with the biggest drop in the park to be free of any sort of darkness/ conflict/ drama.
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