Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

[TP2000]

I am still so tickled that we're coming up on the two year anniversary of the panicked Big Announcement! that they were redoing Splash Mt. into Tiana Mt. And here we are, with the ride finally closed... for a refurbishment. And then Splash Mt. will reopen and be a thing again for the forseeable future.

But thank God they removed Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah from the Disneyland Band playlist. Think of the children!

How dumb do they think we are?

 

[Dear Prudence]

I am still so tickled that we're coming up on the two year anniversary of the panicked Big Announcement! that they were redoing Splash Mt. into Tiana Mt. And here we are, with the ride finally closed... for a refurbishment. And then Splash Mt. will reopen and be a thing again for the forseeable future.

But thank God they removed Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah from the Disneyland Band playlist. Think of the children!

How dumb do they think we are?

but left in all the actual minstrel songs and the ones that talk about k!lling Indians

Like, if you're going to remove Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, fine. Whatever. But... be...consistent?

The projected face in the Haunted Mansion was the biggest downgrade to the entire attraction. The beating heart bride of the 90's to 2005 was the pinnacle. She was heart breaking and terrifying. Constance is obnoxious, looks terrible, and the face isn't even lined up correctly, for God's sake.

 

[PiratesMansion]

but left in all the actual minstrel songs and the ones that talk about k!lling Indians

Where is a song playing about killing Indians?

 

[Dear Prudence]

Where is a song playing about killing Indians?

Peter Pan's Flight queue has "Following the Leader" which includes lines about "fighting Injuns" (laughably, I think that it's also used on the Tinker Belle float in a parade at WDW).

The Ballad of Davy Crocket plays in the esplanade and throughout Frontierland can't decide on just one slur, it seems

I know that the music that plays in Frontierland now has changed (and focuses more on actual cowboys songs), but WDW Frontierland still features many, many actual minstrel songs.

I don't have an issues with them removing things that are bad, but there are better candidates to remove before the CopyPasta ones.

Edit: just to reiterate, I am not by any means putting marginalized people against each other, just pointing out the glaring and suffocating hypocrisy of Disney.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

I am still so tickled that we're coming up on the two year anniversary of the panicked Big Announcement! that they were redoing Splash Mt. into Tiana Mt. And here we are, with the ride finally closed... for a refurbishment. And then Splash Mt. will reopen and be a thing again for the forseeable future.

But thank God they removed Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah from the Disneyland Band playlist. Think of the children!

How dumb do they think we are?

Two years already!? This company is ran by clowns.

 

[Brer Panther]

I don't have an issues with them removing things that are bad, but there are better candidates to remove before the CopyPasta ones.

This whole mess really got started because Song of the South is an easy target.

 

[EagleScout610]

Two years already!? This company is ran by clowns.

Thanks Bobs

 

[Dear Prudence]

This whole mess really got started because Song of the South is an easy target.

It's lucrative clickbait. All I am saying is that if you as a non-Black and non-Indigenous person pump out monetized content that pertains to Black and Indigenous pain, you are not "one of the good ones," you're part of the problem.

 

[Brer Panther]

Here's what I'm expecting the retheme to be like:

- Most of the America Sings animatronics are removed. Replacing them are... nothing! Just long stretches of no animatronics whatsoever. Mainly just empty scenery. There's the occasional screen here and there.
- There are SOME new animatronics, but the ones that aren't main characters (Tiana, Naveen, Louis, etc.) are primitive plastic-y ones that barely move a la most of the animatronics in the Little Mermaid ride.
- Tiana and Naveen only appear twice: once during what was the "How Do You Do" scene (where Brer Fox and Brer Bear are now) and again during the finale.
- Brer Rabbit on the handcar isn't replaced by anything.
- Brer Rabbit giggling in the patch of flowers isn't replaced by anything.
- The Laughin' Place is stripped of animatronics. Now there's just lights representing fireflies.
- The scene of Brer Fox catching Brer Rabbit is replaced by Louis stuck in a prickler bush while Dr. Facilier stands where Brer Fox is. No explanation is given as to why Dr. Facilier is there. This is also Dr. Facilier's only appearance in the attraction.
- Either that, or Dr. Facilier isn't in the ride at all, the voodoo spirits just decide to pick on us for the heck of it.
- The "Burrow's Lament" sequence has no animatronics or scenery whatsoever. Everything is painted black and the lights are dimmed. Projections of the tiki masks are put on the walls.
- Brer Fox's shadow is replaced by Dr. Facilier's.
- Since Disney doesn't do hand-drawn animation anymore, all of the animation on the screens is outsourced and looks like crap.
- The scene of Brer Fox being attacked by Brer Gator is replaced by nothing.
- The retheme as a whole is cheaply-done and a massive downgrade, but everyone loves it anyway and dub it an improvement because it's not racist.
- Disney World's retheme is even worse, with even LESS animatronics, even MORE long stretches of just empty scenery, and it being obvious that the retheme was designed with the Disneyland version in mind. A very poor job is done of dressing the scenes to make it look like you're in a bayou.
- The retheme takes a very, very, very long time to complete on both coasts. Like, at least three years.
- Disney learns nothing and tears out more classic attractions under the guise of making the parks more "inclusive" or whatever. Mr. Toad, It's a Small World, the Enchanted Tiki Room, and Peter Pan's Flight are among the victims.
- Frederick Chambers posts more ideas for attraction rethemes online in the hopes that people will demand Disney do them as well.

 

[Brer Panther]

Oh, and Louis will be derailed into a complete moron, too. They'll be multiple scenes where he's looking around for his trumpet and it's RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM. They might as well just put up giant neon signs reading "LAUGH AT THE STUPID GATOR" all over the attraction.

Louis might not be a rocket scientist, but he's not an IDIOT.

 

[Disney Irish]

Here's what I'm expecting the retheme to be like:

- Most of the America Sings animatronics are removed. Replacing them are... nothing! Just long stretches of no animatronics whatsoever. Mainly just empty scenery. There's the occasional screen here and there.
- There are SOME new animatronics, but the ones that aren't main characters (Tiana, Naveen, Louis, etc.) are primitive plastic-y ones that barely move a la most of the animatronics in the Little Mermaid ride.
- Tiana and Naveen only appear twice: once during what was the "How Do You Do" scene (where Brer Fox and Brer Bear are now) and again during the finale.
- Brer Rabbit on the handcar isn't replaced by anything.
- Brer Rabbit giggling in the patch of flowers isn't replaced by anything.
- The Laughin' Place is stripped of animatronics. Now there's just lights representing fireflies.
- The scene of Brer Fox catching Brer Rabbit is replaced by Louis stuck in a prickler bush while Dr. Facilier stands where Brer Fox is. No explanation is given as to why Dr. Facilier is there. This is also Dr. Facilier's only appearance in the attraction.
- Either that, or Dr. Facilier isn't in the ride at all, the voodoo spirits just decide to pick on us for the heck of it.
- The "Burrow's Lament" sequence has no animatronics or scenery whatsoever. Everything is painted black and the lights are dimmed. Projections of the tiki masks are put on the walls.
- Brer Fox's shadow is replaced by Dr. Facilier's.
- Since Disney doesn't do hand-drawn animation anymore, all of the animation on the screens is outsourced and looks like crap.
- The scene of Brer Fox being attacked by Brer Gator is replaced by nothing.
- The retheme as a whole is cheaply-done and a massive downgrade, but everyone loves it anyway and dub it an improvement because it's not racist.
- Disney World's retheme is even worse, with even LESS animatronics, even MORE long stretches of just empty scenery, and it being obvious that the retheme was designed with the Disneyland version in mind. A very poor job is done of dressing the scenes to make it look like you're in a bayou.
- The retheme takes a very, very, very long time to complete on both coasts. Like, at least three years.
- Disney learns nothing and tears out more classic attractions under the guise of making the parks more "inclusive" or whatever. Mr. Toad, It's a Small World, the Enchanted Tiki Room, and Peter Pan's Flight are among the victims.
- Frederick Chambers posts more ideas for attraction rethemes online in the hopes that people will demand Disney do them as well.

Unless something has changed, the retheme is suppose to take place AFTER the events of the movie. So I wouldn't expect to see Dr Facilier at all in the attraction, unless its to show him as a shadow demon from the other side.

This is suppose to be Tiana, Louis, and the gang as they prepare for Mardi Gras and whatever zany adventure that takes us on.

As for the rest of your post, who knows, it remains to be seen what they do.

 

[GoneForGood]

This latest piece of art they released really makes me feel like there is some truth to the lost trumpet plotline Jim Hill was talking about.

The art here looks a lot more like a search party of sorts (with the Mardi Gras celebration being mainly in the showboat room). And Luis lacks his trumpet. Granted, one of his arms IS underwater, so who knows. I also feel like it would have to be more "critter" centric for this to work.
I would not be shocked if that was the plot-line we end up with.

 

[Brer Panther]

the retheme is suppose to take place AFTER the events of the movie. So I wouldn't expect to see Dr Facilier at all in the attraction, unless its to show him as a shadow demon from the other side.

I wouldn't be surprised if the only representation of Facilier is his shadow replacing Brer Fox's.

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Anyone else willing to bet that most of the background animals (the ones in shadow mainly) won't actually be in the ride at all? I could see them getting cut for budgetary reasons.

 

[Dear Prudence]

I would not be shocked if that was the plot-line we end up with.

This is going to be the most chaotic PWP, honestly. :/ Snow White's Enchanted Wish getting practical effects is truly the only hope that I have for the retheme.

 

[Brer Panther]

This is going to be the most chaotic PWP, honestly. :/ Snow White's Enchanted Wish getting practical effects is truly the only hope that I have for the retheme.

What does PWP stand for?

 

[Dear Prudence]

What does PWP stand for?

"plot what plot;" my ye olde anime days are showing

 

[Brer Panther]

Okay, be honest here... did anyone who posted in this thread sign any of the petitions to get Splash Mountain rethemed in the first place?

Seeing how many pro-rethemers are on this site, I'd be shocked if nobody here did.

 

[CaptinEO]

Okay, be honest here... did anyone who posted in this thread sign any of the petitions to get Splash Mountain rethemed in the first place?

Seeing how many pro-rethemers are on this site, I'd be shocked if nobody here did.

Splash Mountain is my favorite ride so I'm not a pro rethemer by any accounts.

That being said if 1980s WDI/Disney was doing a retheme of the ride I wouldn't be concerned in any way.

I knew they'd understand theme park design and wouldn't be all about "story" and "immersion" and would just make an equally as charming ride.

Current Disney thinks the incredibles yelling at you every 2 seconds on a rollercoaster with plastic figures is a modern day marvel of storytelling and an improvement to a ride.

I don't trust them with this at all. I expect every second to hear Louis go "is that my trumpet" "my trumpet"! while vloggers praise it and Imagineers pat themselves on the back for being the "great storytellers of our generation".

 

[Brer Panther]

I don't trust them with this at all. I expect every second to hear Louis go "is that my trumpet" "my trumpet"! while vloggers praise it and Imagineers pat themselves on the back for being the "great storytellers of our generation".

Yep, that's probably what we're in for.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Seeing how many pro-rethemers are on this site, I'd be shocked if nobody here did.

I don't think there's yet been any conclusive proof that ANYONE here is 100%, without reservations, pro-retheming on here. That would apply to, at maximum, maybe two people on this side of the boards.

This isn't Twitter, and I again re-emphasize (though I'm sure it will fall on deaf ears yet again) that understanding WHY Disney feels compelled to do this, which describes a fair number of people here, IS NOT the same thing as being in favor of it happening.