Politics Theme Park Reopening Guidelines to be released 10/20/20

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JustinSt

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TP2000 said:
I think it's because a county has to go two consecutive weeks in the next naughtiest Tier before it actually gets moved there. Sacramento County finally moved back into the Purple Tier today after several weeks of worsening science and data, for example. Same with San Diego County. Orange County is one of the few big multi-million counties that saw science and data improve recently.

But yeah, Napa County is very naughty and will assuredly be moved up to the Red Tier next Tuesday, if not the Purple Tier. Even with getting graded on a heavy curve and having their actual numbers of cases drastically reduced to an "Adjusted Rate" for being the right kind of people that Sacramento approves of, Napa County is still way into the Purple or Red Tiers.

Current stats for Napa, compared to OC. Napa has over double the number of actual cases, yet is in a lower tier.

Napa County as of 11/10/20 = Orange Tier
11.6 New Covid Cases Per Day Per 100,000 = Purple Tier
7.7 Adjusted Cases Per Day Based On Politics Science and Data = Purple Tier
3.3% Positivity Rating = Orange Tier
5.8% Equity Rating = Red Tier

Orange County as of 11/10/20 = Red Tier
5.6 New Covid Cases Per Day Per 100,000 = Red Tier
5.6 Adjusted Cases Per Day Based On Politics Science and Data = Red Tier
3.3% Positivity Rating = Orange Tier
5.5% Equity Rating = Red Tier

COVID-19 Home

covid19.ca.gov covid19.ca.gov
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Ha, naughty lol. We will see if they get bumped back to red or purple. San Francisco should also be in Orange.
 
SuddenStorm

SuddenStorm

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TP2000 said:
Oh... that's heartbreaking.

When he called Harbor Blvd. "the boulevard of broken dreams", it really hits you.
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Out of sight out of mind is a very real thing... I hope more of these videos get produced. Shifting the publicity away from "I can't eat my churro!" and onto the family owned businesses that are dying might do wonders for swaying public opinion against Newsom's color coded covid wish list...

Or we can keep doing nonsensical and useless protests like this one that frankly devalue the whole 'Reopen Disneyland' argument-

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Come on guards! Open up that gate! :rolleyes:
 
SuddenStorm

SuddenStorm

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mickEblu said:
Imagine reading that sign on a forum like this and not even realizing it was a Frozen quote until someone else pointed it out
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Talk about a movie that's mostly forgettable. I remember seeing the Frozen show at DCA last year for the first time- and every scene being like "oh yeah this was in that movie".

It's been years since I've bothered to watch the film. Frozen 2 was just as forgettable.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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TP2000 said:
I think it's because a county has to go two consecutive weeks in the next naughtiest Tier before it actually gets moved there. Sacramento County finally moved back into the Purple Tier today after several weeks of worsening science and data, for example. Same with San Diego County. Orange County is one of the few big multi-million counties that saw science and data improve recently.

But yeah, Napa County is very naughty and will assuredly be moved up to the Red Tier next Tuesday, if not the Purple Tier. Even with getting graded on a heavy curve and having their actual numbers of cases drastically reduced to an "Adjusted Rate" for being the right kind of people that Sacramento approves of, Napa County is still way into the Purple or Red Tiers.

Current stats for Napa, compared to OC. Napa has over double the number of actual cases, yet is in a lower tier.

Napa County as of 11/10/20 = Orange Tier
11.6 New Covid Cases Per Day Per 100,000 = Purple Tier
7.7 Adjusted Cases Per Day Based On Politics Science and Data = Purple Tier
3.3% Positivity Rating = Orange Tier
5.8% Equity Rating = Red Tier

Orange County as of 11/10/20 = Red Tier
5.6 New Covid Cases Per Day Per 100,000 = Red Tier
5.6 Adjusted Cases Per Day Based On Politics Science and Data = Red Tier
3.3% Positivity Rating = Orange Tier
5.5% Equity Rating = Red Tier

COVID-19 Home

covid19.ca.gov covid19.ca.gov
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Going by memory from when I researched this, I believe that, just like you need to spend time with stats in the next better level before you move into it, so too, you need to spend one or two weeks with naughty numbers before you get demoted to a naughtier tier.

That keeps tier level changing from week to week. Don't know if that applies to Napa... haven't looked into it.
 
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST

1HAPPYGHOSTHOST

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Captn EO said:
But I need to eat new LIMITED edition neon food coloring cupcakes and taste Goofy's "Hot Dog Sandwhich Mac and Cheese Tortilla Bowl". I don't care about the workers, I go to Disneyland to eat food that is overpriced and overyhyped.

I miss being able to walk down Pixar Pier and smell the dirty water. I miss hearing the sounds and sights of baby Jack Jack on a stick laughing. I miss the magic of waiting in line to buy a 65 dollar paper thin sweater for my wife on a rainy day.
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Is this FreshBaked's burner account? That was scary accurate to him.
 
Stevek

Stevek

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LastoneOn said:
Yeah, I'm kind of on the fence. I know a couple of geneticists and while they "get it" and get all oooy gooy science-gasm about it, there's that hint of let somebody else be first about the the whole thing. I'm not high risk occupation, group, none of that. Won't be available for my January trip so I think just naturally its going to be in use quite awhile before I get around to it.
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And that’s the reality for most of us. By the time it is available for the general public, millions of people will have already gotten it and we will have better info on its reliability an/or side effects.
 
Stevek

Stevek

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SuddenStorm said:
Out of sight out of mind is a very real thing... I hope more of these videos get produced. Shifting the publicity away from "I can't eat my churro!" and onto the family owned businesses that are dying might do wonders for swaying public opinion against Newsom's color coded covid wish list...

Or we can keep doing nonsensical and useless protests like this one that frankly devalue the whole 'Reopen Disneyland' argument-

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Come on guards! Open up that gate! :rolleyes:
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I like the sign on the far left where at some point she realized she used too big a font and had to write in “closed?”
 
DrAlice

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SuddenStorm said:
Talk about a movie that's mostly forgettable. I remember seeing the Frozen show at DCA last year for the first time- and every scene being like "oh yeah this was in that movie".

It's been years since I've bothered to watch the film. Frozen 2 was just as forgettable.
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Clearly you aren't the parent of a young girl. I can sing (badly) every song from the original and probably quote half the movie without even trying.
 
TP2000

TP2000

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mickEblu said:
Imagine reading that sign on a forum like this and not even realizing it was a Frozen quote until someone else pointed it out
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I also had no idea! I thought it was just an awkward attempt at coherent messaging. I guess it makes a little more sense now. Kind of. 🧐

MisterPenguin said:
Going by memory from when I researched this, I believe that, just like you need to spend time with stats in the next better level before you move into it, so too, you need to spend one or two weeks with naughty numbers before you get demoted to a naughtier tier.

That keeps tier level changing from week to week. Don't know if that applies to Napa... haven't looked into it.
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Thank you. You would have laughed if you'd seen the pained look on my face as I was typing that thinking "Jeez TP2000, think back to what Mr. Penguin explained so expertly for you! THINK!" 🤣

That Napa County example is so glaringly obvious this week. The state keeps Excel spreadsheets online on their website of all the previous weeks statistics. I have half a mind to go back and see how Napa County doubled the case rates of Orange County suddenly yet still remains down in the Orange Tier. I imagine they're in their second week of that and next Tuesday they'll jump up to the Red Tier, if not the Purple Tier due to their Purple Tier case rates.
 
TP2000

TP2000

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This whole "toggle back and forth" thing for the Four Tier Game that Governor Newsom created really can mess with your business operation, as we saw yesterday with the sudden closure of the Santa Cruz Boardwalk after just one week of being open. I can only imagine how Disneyland would respond if it went to the Yellow Tier, then bumped back into the Orange Tier and had to close for a month or more again. It's no way to run a business. :banghead:

But it takes a few weeks to get up to the next tier. So you get situations where some counties have double the case rates of Orange County, yet remain in a lower tier than Orange County is. And then there's the whole "Adjusted Case Rate" that is doled out mysteriously by Sacramento; Orange County has a board of supervisors majority controlled by Republicans who often talk back to our betters in Sacramento, and coincidentally Orange County never gets an Adjusted Case Rate. But just look at the massive grading curves Democrat controlled counties like LA and Napa get in comparison with their Adjusted Case Rates. Hmm.... :D

Watch Napa County surge to over double the actual case rates as OC, yet still remain down in the Orange Tier.

10/27 County Blueprint For A Safer Economy Four Tier Report
Napa County = 1.8% Test Positivity, 6.0% Scientific Case Rate, 4.3% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior
Orange County = 3.2% Test Positivity, 5.1% Scientific Case Rate, 5.1% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior
LA County = 3.7% Test Positivity, 11.0% Scientific Case Rate, 8.0% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior

11/3 County Blueprint For A Safer Economy Four Tier Report
Napa County = 1.7% Test Positivity, 5.9% Scientific Case Rate, 3.3% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior
Orange County = 3.6% Test Positivity, 6.1% Scientific Case Rate, 6.1% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior
LA County = 4.0% Test Positivity, 12.5% Scientific Case Rate, 7.5% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior

11/10 County Blueprint For A Safer Economy Four Tier Report
Napa County = 3.3% Test Positivity, 11.6% Scientific Case Rate, 7.7% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior
Orange County = 3.3% Test Positivity, 5.6% Scientific Case Rate, 5.6% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior
LA County = 3.8% Test Positivity, 11.5% Scientific Case Rate, 7.6% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior


Napa County is the most glaring example here, and even though Napa is home to Governor Newsom's winery and is full of all the right kind of people who behave and vote correctly, eventually even stylish Napa County is going to have to get a slap on the hand and join Orange County in the Red Tier. What's notable is how incredibly fast Napa County has seen its case rates and testing positivity rise in just the past two weeks, and yet remains in the Orange Tier.

California Blueprint Data Archive

www.cdph.ca.gov www.cdph.ca.gov
 
Stevek

Stevek

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TP2000 said:
This whole "toggle back and forth" thing for the Four Tier Game that Governor Newsom created really can mess with your business operation, as we saw yesterday with the sudden closure of the Santa Cruz Boardwalk after just one week of being open. I can only imagine how Disneyland would respond if it went to the Yellow Tier, then bumped back into the Orange Tier and had to close for a month or more again. It's no way to run a business. :banghead:

But it takes a few weeks to get up to the next tier. So you get situations where some counties have double the case rates of Orange County, yet remain in a lower tier than Orange County is. And then there's the whole "Adjusted Case Rate" that is doled out mysteriously by Sacramento; Orange County has a board of supervisors majority controlled by Republicans who often talk back to our betters in Sacramento, and coincidentally Orange County never gets an Adjusted Case Rate. But just look at the massive grading curves Democrat controlled counties like LA and Napa get in comparison with their Adjusted Case Rates. Hmm.... :D

10/27 County Blueprint For A Safer Economy Four Tier Report
Napa County = 1.8% Test Positivity, 6.0% Scientific Case Rate, 4.3% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior
Orange County = 3.2% Test Positivity, 5.1% Scientific Case Rate, 5.1% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior
LA County = 3.7% Test Positivity, 11.0% Scientific Case Rate, 8.0% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior

11/3 County Blueprint For A Safer Economy Four Tier Report
Napa County = 1.7% Test Positivity, 5.9% Scientific Case Rate, 3.3% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior
Orange County = 3.6% Test Positivity, 6.1% Scientific Case Rate, 6.1% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior
LA County = 4.0% Test Positivity, 12.5% Scientific Case Rate, 7.5% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior

11/10 County Blueprint For A Safer Economy Four Tier Report
Napa County = 3.3% Test Positivity, 11.6% Scientific Case Rate, 7.7% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior
Orange County = 3.3% Test Positivity, 5.6% Scientific Case Rate, 5.6% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior
LA County = 3.8% Test Positivity, 11.5% Scientific Case Rate, 7.6% Adjusted Case Rate For Good Behavior


Napa County is the most glaring example here, and even though Napa is home to Governor Newsom's winery and is full of all the right kind of people who behave and vote correctly, eventually even stylish Napa County is going to have to get a slap on the hand and join Orange County in the Red Tier. What's notable is how incredibly fast Napa County has seen its case rates and testing positivity rise in just the past two weeks, and yet remains in the Orange Tier.

California Blueprint Data Archive

www.cdph.ca.gov www.cdph.ca.gov
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Yep, the toggle is terrible as we are seeing here in Riverside County. Dine outside, dine inside, dine outside...it's killing businesses. It's going to be very tough for restaurants that have been hanging on with only outside dining to do so during the evenings as it gets colder during these next few months.
 
TP2000

TP2000

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Stevek said:
Yep, the toggle is terrible as we are seeing here in Riverside County. Dine outside, dine inside, dine outside...it's killing businesses. It's going to be very tough for restaurants that have been hanging on with only outside dining to do so during the evenings as it gets colder during these next few months.
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I know. I had to rush out to Rancho Mirage this past weekend to help a friend who was trying to open a new business, and had invested a bunch of money and a year's worth of work into it, only to be faced with his opening weekend crashing back into the Purple Tier and no one was technically allowed inside the business. His capacity was slashed by over half.

He wasn't so much concerned about his investment money and a year's worth of work, as he was concerned about all his bartenders and waiters and kitchen staff who had been planning to return to work and start making money again after 8 months of living off unemployment checks and Top Ramen.

I tried to do my part by keeping a barstool warm, being as stylish and upbeat and charming as possible, and tipping the staff generously and often. But the stress on everyone's face was heartbreaking. They're just trying to survive.

All these work-from-home white collar people drinking wine on their Zoom calls and claiming we need to remain shutdown indefinitely are really wearing on my nerves. 😠 Talk about being out of touch and elitist! There are service industry and working class folks who can't work via Zoom who are desperate to make their rent and stretch a jar of spaghetti sauce out to three meals.
 
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