Nemo14
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The Spirited Sixth Sense ...
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Not hanging around for April Fool's?
Nubs70
Well-Known Member
Not to jump on the middle, but since I have my Speedo on, I'll dive in.
As an investor, am I not ultimately concerned with stock price increase and dividend performance rather than simply increase in market cap?
True enough, Goof. But what I know as fact is that threads I author tend to get more attention than threads talking about a new Hub or which weekend in January someone should visit WDW or the where can I find Daisy Duck? threads. Because they get read by media figures, Disney execs and creatives from the industry, some folks enjoy turning them into anything goes BS-fests because they, correctly to some degree, know that's likely to get the important eyes off the thread and somehow injure my agenda (whatever they make up in their minds).
The numbers count only interests me because I see how Disney deals with social media and how they wine and dine Mommy Bloggers and Lifestylers, who often have tiny reaches of influence. So when someone gets excited because their podcast hit 50,000 clicks after five years, I just laugh my off because I know how fast I can get 50K clicks. As someone who can't stand what social media has turned into, I do admit to being very good at knowing how to use it.
Again, it does nothing for me. Nothing at all, which is why I am exploring other platforms to spread my Spirited message in addition to chatting with folks here.
While I was sick I had, unfortunately, plenty of time to sit at my screen and go back and forth, but that isn't the daily reality.
the.dreamfinder
Well-Known Member
Hell, no.
For fanbois to play jokes on other fanbois about BS ... nah, I stopped being interested in that when I turned ... 14 ... OK ... 34!!!
An an investor, you should be interested in the long term health of both the company and your investment. Period.
Unless you are a day trader and don't care about anything beyond the price today versus yesterday.
And why do you have your Speedo on at the computer?
John
Well-Known Member
I for one am not happy about this development.....can someone point me to guest relations? Seriously....Spring Break? really? j/k....recharge your Spirit and get back soon.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Yes. You could just issue addition shares to increase your market cap. That's what typically happens in a merger paid for with stock(ABC, Pixar, Marvel, Lucas). It doesn't necessarily result in an increase in value for the original shareholder. Another way to look at it is that adjusted for dividends and splits a share of DIS stock today would have had an adjusted price of less than $1 when Eisner took over in 1984. The same share had an adjusted price of just over $21 when he left the company. Under Iger it went to $80.
Nubs70
Well-Known Member
Absolutely agree about the long term health perspective. As stock splits are a metric of long term health, how many splits did Eisner have during his tenure as compared to Iger?An an investor, you should be interested in the long term health of both the company and your investment. Period.
Unless you are a day trader and don't care about anything beyond the price today versus yesterday.
And why do you have your Speedo on at the computer?
Except that much of what goes on is interconnected. WDW doesn't operate in a vacuum. Many fans don't understand how large media and entertainment companies work. And, FWIW, I see very few discussions in News and Rumours that stay on the original topic after a handful of pages.
We were having what I felt was a very topical, fascinating and entertaining discussion on TWDC's current and prior CEOs and suddenly someone was posting their fantasy of Disney making large scale Star Wars projects a reality at WDW. And then that went off the rails ...
If I did independent threads on this site on every little tidbit (some bigger than others ...I'm sure you realize news has been broken in this thread many times and it isn't one of my best efforts), then you might have 25 Spirited threads going on at one time on just this board. That's not anything I want to get into.
If people can't keep up with one thread, then no one says they have to stay in it. I also think that line is largely BS because you wouldn't get the numbers if people were unable to follow. They'd give up.
Steve, I don't care how many numbers we get. That's your department.I do want the attention and the eyeballs. They are good for both the site and me. But I'm much more interested in having one place where forum members can go and talk about the news of the day in the entertainment business, but mostly Disney. Just like Eddie Sotto, who much like me also hasn't been an Imagineer in the 21st century, wanted a thread to discuss WDI (well, except for any real world political battles there) and design.
And let's recall, that I started doing the catch all threads to try and keep the nastiness and vitriol down by the folks who view Disney as a religion and cannot separate themselves from the BRAND and take my views as personal attacks on them instead of simply a critical view of the company. These threads are incredibly easy to avoid.
FWIW, I think it happens to be working because this thread is now 342 pages and, for the first time ever, I haven't been attacked and we haven't had numerous trolls come visit.
I don't believe that splits are a measure of true health of a company. And I don't have the numbers on splits handy and @ParentsOf4 is on Spring Break at UNI!
bcalltimandanna
Active Member
Enjoy the break Spirit! Should we just be expecting Spirit VII: Revenge of Iger? I tend to agree with you about Eisner. Most of the pixie dust i've snorted was under his watch.
the.dreamfinder
Well-Known Member
Meanwhile at UNI...
I've already said my piece. But who reads 300-500 pages at once? If people can read 5-10 pages a day on an 11-page thread, why can't they on a 211-page thread?
And if someone wishes to come in late, then they are welcome, they should just read a bit before entering (which, frankly, is common sense and appropriate netiquette) and let them join when they can ...
GoofGoof
Premium Member
4:1 1986
4:1 1992
3:1 1998
None under Iger. The previous splits all came when the stock exceeded $100 a share and brought the share price down into the mid $30s.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
DIS has had 7 splits. 3 under Eisner. None under Iger.
The first under Roy in 62 was a 103:100 split, with a closing price of 27.37. The next, also under Roy, was in 1967, and was a 2:1 split with a closing price of 54.00.
The next two were under Card Walker. 1971 was a 2:1 split with a closing price of 93.12. 1973 was another 2:1 split with a closing price of 108.00.
The last three were under Eisner. 1986 a 4:1 split with a closing price of 35.75. 1992 a 4:1 split with a closing price of 39.63. 1998 a 3:1 split with a closing price of 38.13.
There have been no splits under Iger that I know of.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
Exactly...the only exception being the 1962 split, where the previous price was 28.50.
Lots of pitches. Nothing given the go-ahead yet ...
I will bet you anything that the first place to get something is not WDW.
Do you know who they are?
I have heard tales of tenants and a few I believe, but not a list.
