I'd love to see evidence of this. No plans from 68 onwards show it...
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Still too much for TDO I dare say. The ride system is expensive to build and maintain. CGI-ready or not.
rael ramone
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Do you think that the Emmy's for 'Made for Television' pictures will end up becoming more prestigious then the Oscars, with TV the place where you tell 'important stories' and the place where actors display their craft, and the big screen is nothing but splosions, franchises, and computer animation?
Disagree
Education first and foremost starts at home where the parents need to set the standard for their child... When parents care and have high expectations then students typically do very well in school. I teach at a public school and i ve had two step sons graduate from public school and one other son in a private school and all have done well because they know/knew the expectation. Schools today are microcosms of society..when you dont have two parent homes or parents who dont care things go badly... Public schools today are far more challenging than they were 20 years ago... Teachers are highly qualified in comparison to what they were 20 years ago
im a conservative but this is one area where i think conservatives are completely off base (education)
alphac2005
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We're in a very affluent suburb in Atlanta and in one of the strongest school districts in the state.... Well, that's what all the ones around here like to let you know about every time they get a chance.... All that gets out of me is "MEH." It's downright depressing to see where public schools have gone. I still think that a bit of a combination of standards in this state are lousy compared to most states and having been educated in New England, it all around sucks here no matter how great the schools supposedly are.
Kids don't have textbooks for most of their classes and they come home with photocopied sheets of paper as their supposed workbooks. Our kids are doing material in the 5th grade that we didn't start until the 8th grade, yet their fundamentals in reading, comprehension, and spelling are downright horrid. Standardized testing, teachers that have become robots and have virtually no autonomy in the classroom and I speak of this knowing several impressive teachers as friends and they have such little leeway in doing anything. They work the kids to death even in elementary school, yet they couldn't compete with kids in most other parts of the world if their lives depended on it.
My only question when I read the school system being referred to as indoctrination is to what exactly? A whole lot of crummy skills? What's interesting about this common core concept is that they what kids to be independent critical thinkers..... Kids in 9th grade math here are supposed to figure out how to think through and solve their work. Ummm. Isn't that the concept of university here? Our schools no longer acknowledge proven science about the differences of development in boys and girls and having boys at that age "figure it out on their own" is a disaster just based on developmental angle.
I always sum up the schools like this: Most children don't leave school and perform simple tasks like balancing a checkbook. That makes 10 year olds doing algebra seem even more ridiculous. We can't even teach solid fundamentals that will serve as kids as adults no matter their career paths.
OK, I'll stop, I know that we can start going off the cliff here dissecting the woes.
Funmeister
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It was a huge debate years ago so I sent Mr. Smith to see if he knew anything about it or could confirm it. He responded with a lengthy email with an explanation and a confirmation that it was planned to the point that some work had been done to prep the site.
I had/have no reason to doubt what he said. Could he be wrong? Sure it is possible. I do consider him an authority on Disney history so I will still buy what he is selling....or sold. lol
Lee
Adventurer
in other news.. "Don Trovolto" makes a fool of himself by saying the name of Idina all wrong.
Hilarity issues when Twitter reacts..
Yeah, that mistake is gonna cost Travolta about 100 hours of auditing. His thetans must be out of sync.
His wig looked great, though....
JimboJones123
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Spot on.
"It's Fun to be Free" from WoM has such a classic Walt Disney whimsy that it feels like it strolled right in off Main Street USA.
When "New Horizons" left, so did the sense of optimism for the future. Spaceship Earth's future cartoons are a joke. All the questions have a underlying theme of helplessness. At you concerned about your health? Is work more important than recreation?
I won't even touch the bastardized version of "One Little Spark."
I sure miss the overall harmonic themes of EPCOT Center.
1. The world has been building for quite a while amd took some time to get where it is.
2. Fantastically innovative individuals throughout the ages have revolutionized the entire planet's outlook.
3. Every individual has the unlimited potential to become one of the next generation that changes the world.
4. The Future can only be limited by how fantastic you make it.
It was almost a spiritual experience to visit Future World. I honestly could never decide if Imagination, Horizons, or Listen to the Land were the most important pavilions.
World of Motion, Spaceship Earth, World of Energy, and The Living Seas were the scientific background supporting the other three.
It was as harmonic as a theme park experience could be.
Now, it is a cold, sterile checklist of distraction and apathy.
Honestly, there is no attraction that I sincerely enjoy. The Mexico boat ride might be the tops on my list.
The two top billed attractions Sorin' and Test Track, even with a Fastpass, mean at least half an hour standing and waiting with mild diversions that Disney claims are immersive experiences.
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JimboJones123
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That made me giggle.
ChrisFL
Premium Member
This (20 minute) video is a very good way to understand the indoctrination idea in schools
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Definitely agree with education begins at home - my DW is a TEACHER and she is disgusted with the dumbing down of what she is expected to teach and the overtly political messages she is expected to pass along as part of the curriculum.
However in China and India the schoolmaster does not CARE about your homelife you are EXPECTED to learn
For your reading pleasure I bring you the 1890 8'th Grade Final Exam from Salinas KS, After which I have included the 8'th Grade Language Arts evaluation from the 'Common Core'
Draw one's own conclusions about the level of education - required to pass the respective exams
This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina, Kansas, USA, in 1895. It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, KS, and reprinted by the Salina Journal.
8th Grade Final Exam: Salina , KS -1895
Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph
4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of "lie,""play," and "run."
5. Define case; Illustrate each case.
6 What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation.
7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.
Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts/bushel, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
4. District No 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find the cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20 per metre?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, The distance of which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt
U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus .
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas .
6. Describe three of the most promindent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865
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Orthography (Time, one hour)
1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u'.
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell,rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.
Geography (Time, one hour)
1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas ?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America
5. Identify and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.
7. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth.
Notice that the exam took FIVE HOURS to complete. Gives the saying "he only had an 8th grade education" a whole new meaning, doesn't it?! Also shows you how poor our education system has become...
Grade 8 English Language Arts Practice Questions
Read the following passage from Robert Frost's poem "The Road Not Taken" to answer questions 1-5.
Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
(5) To where it bent in the undergrowth;
Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
(10) Had worn them really about the same,
And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
(15) I doubted if I should ever come back.
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-
I took the one less travelled by,
(20) And that has made all the difference.
Grade 8 English Language Arts Exam Study Guide with Practice Questions
1. What can be said about the author's tone in "The Road Not Taken"?
a. He feels some remorse about his decision.
b. He feels that he has accomplished something great.
c. He feels that his path has been different.
d. He feels that he should not have gone into the woods.
2. How does the point of view affect the tone of this poem?
a. It creates a feeling of superiority in the reader.
b. It causes the reader to feel slightly distanced from the scene.
c. It makes the reader feel as if he/she is making the same decision.
d. It causes the reader to feel as if he/she has no choice.
3. What is the main theme in this poem?
a. Deciding which road to take while on a hike
b. Making choices that may be different from others
c. How to make the best of a decision in the past
d. Wondering about the choices that others have made
4. What is the setting of this poem?
a. The early morning, near some wood in the early or late spring
b. The edges of a well-worn path near thick undergrowth
c. Two paths that are near a more traveled one in the late morning
d. The morning, in an autumnal forest with two walking paths
5. Which lines from this poem show a kind of irony?
a. 16, 17, and 20
b. 4, 5 and 6
c. 6 and 8
d. 18 and 19
Read the following passage from Heywood Broun's The Fifty-First Dragon to answer questions 6-10.
OF all the pupils at the knight school Gawaine le Cœur-Hardy was among the least promising. He was tall and sturdy, but his instructors soon discovered that he lacked spirit. He would hide in the woods when the jousting class was called, although his companions and members of the faculty sought to appeal to his better nature by shouting to him to come out and break his neck like a man. Even when they told him that the lances were padded, the horses no more than ponies and the field unusually soft for late autumn, Gawaine refused to grow enthusiastic. The Headmaster and the Assistant Professor of Pleasaunce were discussing the case one spring afternoon and the Assistant Professor could see no remedy but expulsion.
"No," said the Headmaster, as he looked out at the purple hills which ringed the school, "I think I'll train him to slay dragons."
"He might be killed," objected the Assistant Professor.
"So he might," replied the Headmaster brightly, but he added, more soberly, "we must consider the greater good. We are responsible for the formation of this lad's character."
"Are the dragons particularly bad this year?" interrupted the Assistant Professor. This was characteristic. He always seemed restive when the head of the school began to talk ethics and the ideals of the institution.
"I've never known them worse," replied the Headmaster. "Up in the hills to the south last week they killed a number of peasants, two cows and a prize pig. And if this dry spell holds there's no telling when they may start a forest fire simply by breathing around indiscriminately."
"Would any refund on the tuition fee be necessary in case of an accident to young Cœur-Hardy?"
"No," the principal answered, judicially, "that's all covered in the contract. But as a matter of fact he won't be killed. Before I send him up in the hills I'm going to give him a magic word."
"That's a good idea," said the Professor. "Sometimes they work wonders."
6. What is this passage about?
a. The problems that may arise from fighting dragons
b. How the educators would change Gawaine's course of study
c. The way the Professor and the Headmaster taught about dragons
d. Giving Gawaine a magic word to help him fight dragons
7. What is the best way to describe Gawaine's character?
a. Fearless and excitable
b. Careless and frigid
c. Spiritual and careful
d. Cowardly and apathetic
8. What is the meaning of "his better nature"?
a. An increased sense of honesty
b. A man's ignoble ideas
c. A desire for propriety
d. A man's nobler instincts
9. Why does the Headmaster mention some "peasants, two cows, and a prize pig"?
a. To help the professor understand dragon behavior
b. To show that Gawaine would be perfect for fighting dragons
c. To illustrate how much trouble dragons are this year
d. To explain why Gawaine's talents were needed
10. How does the Headmaster put the professor at ease about Gawaine?
a. He tells him that Gawaine will only fight small dragons.
b. He assures him that Gawaine's contract has not expired.
c. He talks to him about the animals that have been killed by the dragons.
d. He mentions that Gawaine will be given a magic word.
Answer Explanations
1. A: Line 16 reveals that the author will be talking about this moment later with a sigh. There is nothing in the poem to indicate that the author has done something great or that he should have not gone into the woods. While he does seem to say that his path has been different than others, that does not describe the tone of the poem.
2. C: The first person point of view makes the reader feel as if he/she is involved in making the same decision. The other choices involve other points of view: an omniscient reader would feel superior or even a little distanced from the scene. The reader also has a clear choice, so letter D would not be a good selection.
3. B: This is because the writer mentions there are two paths, and one seemed more worn than the other, showing it was more often used by travelers. The other choices involve reading too much into the poem.
4. D: The setting is laid out in lines 1 and 11.
5. A: Frost uses a type of irony called "verbal irony" here, and shows us his feelings by using expressions that go against what the literal words say.
6. B: While some of the other choices are mentioned in the selection, they do not adequately explain what the entire selection is about.
7. D: Gawaine is said to be tall and sturdy, but would run away and hide at the smallest sign of trouble.
8. D: "His better nature" is a common way of talking about a person's deeper character.
9. C: This forms part of the answer to the professor's question, "Are the dragons particularly bad this year?"
10. D: Letter A is not mentioned in the text, and the other choices do not directly answer the question.
"No," said the Headmaster, as he looked out at the purple hills which ringed the school, "I think I'll train him to slay dragons."
"He might be killed," objected the Assistant Professor.
"So he might," replied the Headmaster brightly, but he added, more soberly, "we must consider the greater good. We are responsible for the formation of this lad's character."
"Are the dragons particularly bad this year?" interrupted the Assistant Professor. This was characteristic. He always seemed restive when the head of the school began to talk ethics and the ideals of the institution.
"I've never known them worse," replied the Headmaster. "Up in the hills to the south last week they killed a number of peasants, two cows and a prize pig. And if this dry spell holds there's no telling when they may start a forest fire simply by breathing around indiscriminately."
"Would any refund on the tuition fee be necessary in case of an accident to young Cœur-Hardy?"
"No," the principal answered, judicially, "that's all covered in the contract. But as a matter of fact he won't be killed. Before I send him up in the hills I'm going to give him a magic word."
"That's a good idea," said the Professor. "Sometimes they work wonders."
6. What is this passage about?
a. The problems that may arise from fighting dragons
b. How the educators would change Gawaine's course of study
c. The way the Professor and the Headmaster taught about dragons
d. Giving Gawaine a magic word to help him fight dragons
7. What is the best way to describe Gawaine's character?
a. Fearless and excitable
b. Careless and frigid
c. Spiritual and careful
d. Cowardly and apathetic
8. What is the meaning of "his better nature"?
a. An increased sense of honesty
b. A man's ignoble ideas
c. A desire for propriety
d. A man's nobler instincts
9. Why does the Headmaster mention some "peasants, two cows, and a prize pig"?
a. To help the professor understand dragon behavior
b. To show that Gawaine would be perfect for fighting dragons
c. To illustrate how much trouble dragons are this year
d. To explain why Gawaine's talents were needed
10. How does the Headmaster put the professor at ease about Gawaine?
a. He tells him that Gawaine will only fight small dragons.
b. He assures him that Gawaine's contract has not expired.
c. He talks to him about the animals that have been killed by the dragons.
d. He mentions that Gawaine will be given a magic word.
Answer Explanations
1. A: Line 16 reveals that the author will be talking about this moment later with a sigh. There is nothing in the poem to indicate that the author has done something great or that he should have not gone into the woods. While he does seem to say that his path has been different than others, that does not describe the tone of the poem.
2. C: The first person point of view makes the reader feel as if he/she is involved in making the same decision. The other choices involve other points of view: an omniscient reader would feel superior or even a little distanced from the scene. The reader also has a clear choice, so letter D would not be a good selection.
3. B: This is because the writer mentions there are two paths, and one seemed more worn than the other, showing it was more often used by travelers. The other choices involve reading too much into the poem.
4. D: The setting is laid out in lines 1 and 11.
5. A: Frost uses a type of irony called "verbal irony" here, and shows us his feelings by using expressions that go against what the literal words say.
6. B: While some of the other choices are mentioned in the selection, they do not adequately explain what the entire selection is about.
7. D: Gawaine is said to be tall and sturdy, but would run away and hide at the smallest sign of trouble.
8. D: "His better nature" is a common way of talking about a person's deeper character.
9. C: This forms part of the answer to the professor's question, "Are the dragons particularly bad this year?"
10. D: Letter A is not mentioned in the text, and the other choices do not directly answer the question.
interesting take from a person who i know who has taught in japan where students learn by writing down word for word what the teacher writes on the board..the most simplistic way of teaching yet Japan "scores" higher than we do on most standardized test...reason....number one respect for learning and reason number two it matters at home
kids here have the ability to take college level classes as a junior in high school so being challenged can be done...
dont get me wrong the public school system is far from perfect and neither party has a clue what to do about it..the bottom line is educational problems are not political and they cannot be fixed by politicians
kids here have the ability to take college level classes as a junior in high school so being challenged can be done...
dont get me wrong the public school system is far from perfect and neither party has a clue what to do about it..the bottom line is educational problems are not political and they cannot be fixed by politicians
Travel Junkie
Well-Known Member
They recently released a podcast which included Dusty and it is obvious that he is evolving the site from its watchdog status to a pure fanbois site. Dusty went on about how great Michael C. is doing as DLR president with the little nugget that he just happened to stop by their event. There have been a few unsettling things going on at DLR since Michael’s arrival and it is sad to see MiceChat not challenge them.
There are too many pure fan sites out there and MiceChat was unique in that it critiqued the parks and doled out criticism when they thought necessary. The only columnist who criticizes anymore on that site is Andy Castro. There needs to be more people holding Disney accountable for their decisions not less.
EPCOTCenterLover
Well-Known Member
Not enough likes for this post! Oh, EPCOT Center- I miss your glory days!
71jason
Well-Known Member
Interesting excerpts from the Touring Plans Blog (whole thing worth a read if you're into this sort of thing, http://blog.touringplans.com/2014/0...14/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed):
Tuesday, February 25, 2014
... average posted times of 25 minutes at Haunted Mansion (predicted 11), 39 at Jungle Cruise (predicted 12), 24 at Pirates of the Caribbean (predicted 16) and 44 minutes at Big Thunder Mountain Railroad (predicted 30). This may be more evidence that Fastpass+ is causing increased standby times at secondary attractions while lowering standby times at headliners. Space Mountain was only 8 minutes higher than expected and our prediction for Peter Pan’s Flight was spot on... [Emphasis added]
Friday, February 28, 2014
...We had predicted a level ’4′ but observed a level ’7′ thanks to higher than expected wait times at Pirates of the Caribbean (36 minutes, predicted 17) and Jungle Cruise (48 minutes, predicted 17). Once again wait times at Peter Pan’s Flight and Space Mountain matched what was expected although park-wide, wait times were higher on average... [Emphasis added]
Tuesday, February 25, 2014
... average posted times of 25 minutes at Haunted Mansion (predicted 11), 39 at Jungle Cruise (predicted 12), 24 at Pirates of the Caribbean (predicted 16) and 44 minutes at Big Thunder Mountain Railroad (predicted 30). This may be more evidence that Fastpass+ is causing increased standby times at secondary attractions while lowering standby times at headliners. Space Mountain was only 8 minutes higher than expected and our prediction for Peter Pan’s Flight was spot on... [Emphasis added]
Friday, February 28, 2014
...We had predicted a level ’4′ but observed a level ’7′ thanks to higher than expected wait times at Pirates of the Caribbean (36 minutes, predicted 17) and Jungle Cruise (48 minutes, predicted 17). Once again wait times at Peter Pan’s Flight and Space Mountain matched what was expected although park-wide, wait times were higher on average... [Emphasis added]
Funmeister
Well-Known Member
Years ago Disney announced that they would no longer limit themselves at Epcot by adding countires to World Showcase and would consider "regions of the world." Did anything ever happen with that? (Besides the obvious that it never happened?) I think I remember the Caribbean mentioned but not sure if that was water cooler rumor or serious consideration.
Anyone remember more?
Anyone remember more?
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
That sounds more like WestCOT's Four Corners of the World (Africa, Americas, Asia and Europe). The Scandinavia Pavilion (built as the Norway Pavilion) and the Equatorial Africa Pavilion are the only World Showcase pavilions I can recall having this sort of regional quality.
Funmeister
Well-Known Member
'I remember that. I remember reading about the Epcot version in the Orlando Sentinel. Now it takes an act of congress and right around $37,000 to access their archives.
And this is why I rarely go there anymore.