Cosmic Commando
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I honestly think the booze has nothing to do with BoG's popularity. They need more restaurants with theming like that.
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Clamman73
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They can do some nice nightime projections on that castle.Is SDL's Enchanted Storybook Castle too big?
Nemo14
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I agree. I seriously doubt that booze is the reason that people want to eat there.
TarzanRocked99-
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Both Royal Table and Tony's have plans drawn up to add alcohol if that decision is ever implemented. I think there is a good chance that may happen sooner than later with Royal Table going down for rehab next year
mahnamahna101
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- J.K. Rowling is rumored to be writing a continuation of Harry Potter's adventures. Potter's not done, essentially
- Pottermore website releases short stories, etc
- Fantastic Beasts is being made into a trilogy from November 2016-November 2020.
- Great/solid theming can survive without a relevant theme anyways (Splash Mountain is based on what? Where does the Tower of Terror come from? DINOSAUR huh?)
- Harry Potter is almost to Star Wars levels of timelessness. By the 2020s, Rowling should have her rumored new stories ready. HP will be 25+ years old. It's not necessarily a fad - and I could see many 4th-6th grade classes reading HP books as part of their reading curriculum in the decades to come.
- Universal has invested in durable IPs lately. Transformers - 30+ years. Simpsons - 25+ years. HP - 15+ years. Kong - 80+ years. Universal doesn't invest in the latest flavor anymore (Twister, MIB, Mummy, Shrek, etc). They wait until it's a known commodity that has stayed relevant.
CDavid
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I strongly suspect an immersive theme - and particularly upgraded menu selections and (much) better food quality - would be the factors which would drive the success of an additional table-service restaurant. I'm a very poor judge as I don't drink, but surely there aren't many people who really make restaurant selections based on the availability of booze. There are some, to be sure, but that's not what is driving the crowds at Be Our Guest.
No, that wouldn't be the least bit amusing. It would be a sad commentary on current-day Walt Disney World guests, however.
Actually, if it is centered primarily on social media, how much of an "outrage" can it be, really?
culturenthrills
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That would cost money for equity performers and Disney has shown that they don't want any of those.
PhotoDave219
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THAT wont happen. And no, it wouldn't be funny. Never negotiate with terrorists.
stevehousse
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Does anyone know more on the rumor of Shark Reef at TL closing and not Reopening after the TL winter rehab? No one seems to have an answer on this one??? Seems kind of weird...
zweltar
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TomP
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Sometimes your comments remind me of that word game "Mad Gab" It took me a minute of reading this one out loud to get it.(Yeah, I know it's the speech to text thing, but wow. I'm not being mean, it is fun to decipher)
Apparently.
I knew there was a portion of the Disney fandom that believed that, but I didn't realize how large it was until today. Seems almost like 50%+ of the comments I'm reading on social media are pro-hat.
You weren't around (here on wdwmagic) when the wand came down at Epcot - the number of people saying who sad they were and how this was destroying the Disney magic at Epcot was mind-blowing. Quite a few had to admit afterwards that Spaceship Earth was far improved with out. I think so many people can't visualize something that they never experienced.
PhotoDave219
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(Yeah, I know it's the speech to text thing, but wow. I'm not being mean, it is fun to decipher)
Yeah, it's amusing.... Lol
Nemo14
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PhotoDave219
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It's far more fun to think about what you were actually thinking.
Really? I thought I had a one track mind…
The Schnitzel is one of the few things that is not that good there. However, at least it is pork now. It used to be chicken. Of course a real Schnitzel ought to be veal (only then it is allowed to be called Wiener Schnitzel, i.e. Schnitzel from Vienna). But in every day life the most common Schnitzel is a pork Schnitzel. It is great because it is from a very lean part of the pig and has very little fat. However, this also means that a good Schnitzel has to be prepared on the spot as otherwise it tends to dry out very quickly. Therefore it is not great for buffets in the first place. If I remember correctly, though, they had a mushroom sauce directly next to the Schnitzel so that you could turn it into a Jägerschnitzel (huntsmen Schnitzel).
Aha! Paderborn - this explains why you had something so strange as a Schnitzel with egg! That must be something Northern German! That's the other thing about Biergarten: It is really not very "German" at all, it is far more "Bavarian". Of course, Bavaria is part of Germany. But we do have a lot of regional differences in food. Even beer from Northern Germany is far different from Bavarian beer. So maybe that was part of your disappointment.
The one thing that was strange was that it was a buffet restaurant! The only buffets I know in Germany are for breakfast (and there they are common). Also, the whole seating people together things was a bit off. Yes, it is a concept here. But if you go to a standard Bavarian Biergarten, you don't have chairs, but just benches and you just find a spot where you can and you won't be seated. In a more restaurant type context you are generally free to seat yourself as well, but there is less table sharing going on. However, it is totally acceptable to ask if you can take over the other half of a larger table that only has a small group sitting there. However, you would try your best to not talk a lot to the other people at the table, but kind of let them have their privacy. One might make a short comment like saying "Good Appetite" when the others get served their food.
On the food I found the apple sauce being served with the roast pork a bit strange. The pickled beets (Rote Beete) were too sour and not sweet enough. The cheese in the Käsespätzle was far too mild. And the pork Schnitzel was too dry. Those were really the only complaints I had. Oh and the pretzel bread was not as delicious as from my favorite local baker!
Otherwise, I was impressed by the original and authentic selection. The cold sausages tasted very authentic, the warm sausages, too. I had the Weißwurst (veal sausage) and it was very good and was served with the correct sweet mustard. Also the normal mustard was definitely German mustard - in my experience every country has a slightly different mustard taste and this was German mustard. I also had the Leberkäse (Disney calls it Veal Meatloaf, but I don't think it is traditionally made out of veal. The literal translation would be liver cheese, but there is neither liver nor cheese in it). That was really good, too! Also, the desserts from the apple strudel to the Rote Grütze were really good.
ford91exploder
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The Schnitzel is one of the few things that is not that good there. However, at least it is pork now. It used to be chicken. Of course a real Schnitzel ought to be veal (only then it is allowed to be called Wiener Schnitzel, i.e. Schnitzel from Vienna). But in every day life the most common Schnitzel is a pork Schnitzel. It is great because it is from a very lean part of the pig and has very little fat. However, this also means that a good Schnitzel has to be prepared on the spot as otherwise it tends to dry out very quickly. Therefore it is not great for buffets in the first place. If I remember correctly, though, they had a mushroom sauce directly next to the Schnitzel so that you could turn it into a Jägerschnitzel (huntsmen Schnitzel).
Aha! Paderborn - this explains why you had something so strange as a Schnitzel with egg! That must be something Northern German! That's the other thing about Biergarten: It is really not very "German" at all, it is far more "Bavarian". Of course, Bavaria is part of Germany. But we do have a lot of regional differences in food. Even beer from Northern Germany is far different from Bavarian beer. So maybe that was part of your disappointment.
The one thing that was strange was that it was a buffet restaurant! The only buffets I know in Germany are for breakfast (and there they are common). Also, the whole seating people together things was a bit off. Yes, it is a concept here. But if you go to a standard Bavarian Biergarten, you don't have chairs, but just benches and you just find a spot where you can and you won't be seated. In a more restaurant type context you are generally free to seat yourself as well, but there is less table sharing going on. However, it is totally acceptable to ask if you can take over the other half of a larger table that only has a small group sitting there. However, you would try your best to not talk a lot to the other people at the table, but kind of let them have their privacy. One might make a short comment like saying "Good Appetite" when the others get served their food.
On the food I found the apple sauce being served with the roast pork a bit strange. The pickled beets (Rote Beete) were too sour and not sweet enough. The cheese in the Käsespätzle was far too mild. And the pork Schnitzel was too dry. Those were really the only complaints I had. Oh and the pretzel bread was not as delicious as from my favorite local baker!
Otherwise, I was impressed by the original and authentic selection. The cold sausages tasted very authentic, the warm sausages, too. I had the Weißwurst (veal sausage) and it was very good and was served with the correct sweet mustard. Also the normal mustard was definitely German mustard - in my experience every country has a slightly different mustard taste and this was German mustard. I also had the Leberkäse (Disney calls it Veal Meatloaf, but I don't think it is traditionally made out of veal. The literal translation would be liver cheese, but there is neither liver nor cheese in it). That was really good, too! Also, the desserts from the apple strudel to the Rote Grütze were really good.
Thank you @Bolna
Agree with you on the schnitzel my great grandmother was Hungarian and she used to make a mix of German and Hungarian dishes. Overall Biergarten is one of my favorites because where I live good German food is hard to come by.
I have never had the good fortune to visit Germany perhaps some time but most of my non us travel is to Asia and India
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Mike S
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MIB and Mummy may not be as popular as they once were but they did make great rides out of them. MIB is the best shooter ride in Orlando imo.
DC0703
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I too think it is the theming. It's a very elaborate restaurant, much moreso than the others in MK. And it's a way to get fairy tale castle/princess type dining without the $$$$ of Cinderella's Royal Table. On top of that, the food is actually pretty good there (I had the pot roast for lunch and loved it) and the prices aren't bad (relative to Disney, of course).
I hope that the restaurant's success encourages the powers that be to put more restaurants in MK with a detailed theme like that. Given the profit potential, I would think this is one type of addition that the bean counters would actually approve.