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CTXRover

CTXRover

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WDW1974 said:
Did you enjoy the cruise?
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The cruise was a blast. I've done a number of these longer cruises on board DCL and other cruise lines and felt the overall experience was one of the best. The overall entertainment and on board activities were great (with exception of Toy Story-the musical, which I remembered being better). We did 3 days at Disneyland after the cruise as well. We can compare opinions once you talk about your thoughts. :)

I must have missed that Frozen admission for Maelstrom. I know he hinted at it, but I also felt he hinted at Frozen being considered for Philharmagic, but realize he may have just used that as an example of something that could replace a segment someday.

It sounds like either way his hints would be more support of Frozen being considered for Maelstrom.
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

Chili's
GoofGoof said:
Avatarland needs the boat ride to be called a land. One ride is just...a ride, not a land.
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Cody5242 said:
Avatarland needs the boat ride in order for Disney to say that Avatarland makes AK a full day park
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I usually don't pre-judge things, but if the boat ride is axed, I don't see how this "expansion project" accomplishes its goals.

One ride...
-doesn't make AK a full-day park.
-doesn't provide a more eclectic ride lineup (w/o the boat ride, AK will still have 0 dark rides/slow rides)
-won't keep people in the park longer than it takes to wait for and ride the attraction
-is a slap in the face to Cameron and Disney fans (3 rides down to 2 rides down to 1 ride...really?)
-will probably still take 3-4 years to build.
 
sshindel

sshindel

The Epcot Manifesto
Lee said:
That's me.
Maelstrom is...ok. It's a cute little ride, which suits it's location.

Frozen...ugh...no thanks. No interest in the film or a cheap overlay based on it. Especially not in a park where it has no business being.

I wonder...what if Maelstrom wasn't available for the overlay? Where would they shoehorn Frozen in then?
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Blizzard beach...

Edit. Beat to it I see
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

Chili's
Sped2424 said:
Iger states he doesn't wanna rush the Broadway play because they want quality, yet they can't give the same respect for the ride.
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You're right. Broadway demands excellence and success won't be driven by a popular title, it will be derived from the quality of the product under that title.

WDW used to be a "Broadway" for theme parks. But as other members have mentioned, adding a ride with the name Frozen labeled on it, however cheap it may be, is going to be a hit regardless. If people wait 3 hours for a meet and greet, gosh only knows how long a ride line will be. It's not the same requirements of quality as Broadway, sadly. They can still "succeed" with a lower quality Frozen ride because their target audience isn't going to write a scathing review in the New York Times the following day.
 
Magenta Panther

Magenta Panther

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doctornick said:
I would argue that it's a classic attraction that we need to preserve (update, yes, but keep the content without Frozen). I personally am shocked that people don't like. It's short but a ton of fun, having all of the elements you'd want in a cultural ride -- myths/legends, history, nature, and modern day. When we were in WDW for a high school trip in the early 90's, my friends and I kept going on Maelstrom repeatedly because it was so much fun (we also rode old school Imagination a bunch).

Maelstrom isn't an E-ticket, but I think it a great execution of a smaller scale family ride. Not every ride can be 15-20 minutes long. It's certainly different in scope than most "classic Epcot" rides, but that shouldn't intrinsically make it bad or not worthy of preserving.
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Maelstrom captures the latent eeriness of Nordic culture very well, IMO. It was never meant to be another Tower of Terror or Splash Mountain. But for what it is, it's pretty awesome.
 
Magenta Panther

Magenta Panther

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CTXRover said:
I was on the Panama Canal cruise and didn't realize I could have met you. I may have and didn't even know it.

Anyway, I was at George Scribner's presentations onboard the Panama Canal Cruise as well. Personally, I felt he hinted more at the possibility of a Frozen segment being added to Philharmagic than it replacing Maelstrom (perhaps both are being considered). He made several points during his discussion of his involvement with Philharmagic on how each segment and its transitions were made to allow for segments to be replaced and mentioned Frozen a number of times. In fact, he said something along the lines of how at the end of the Ariel segment that it was designed that way to allow for a transition to another film (besides Lion King), such as Frozen. Nothing confirmed though.

During another presentation regarding his involvement with redoing Gran Fiesta tour he brought up the Norway pavilion being next for a reimagining. If I recall, he brought this up on his own. He pre-emptively brought up the question by asking himself at the beginning of his presentation "why do we change rides" and explained the usual that everything is up for a change and many projects are on a schedule above his pay grade for updating the parks but mentioned at that same time that Norway was next up. Nothing specifically that this was Frozen related, but one could make that assumption I suppose.
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Well, personally, I'm fine with Frozen's "Let It Go" being added to Philharmagic, provided it's an addition, not a replacement for anything that's already there. Heck, maybe TDO will actually upgrade Philharmagic's decrepit, fuzzy, out-of-sync 3D while it's at it. We can hope.

And I like your take on what Scribner said better than WDW1974's. Personally, I'm not going to believe the Maelstrom-Frozen-overlay rumor until such an abomination is actually announced by TDO.
 

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