The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

[ford91exploder]

So you really think that if all or most rides became FP only, a ticket to the park would only buy you entrance + 3 rides? Additional FP's for a charge, yes, I can see that happening- but the normal price ticket only giving you entrace + 3 rides would be ridiculous. That would be taking away what used to be free!

This would be the logical extension of Disney's current model of upcharge events etc.

 

[spacemt354]

I didn't know he started his shows like that ... I wonder if he started doing that as a rebuttal to all of us who call him out ... sort of like him saying "yes we all know what I am doing but ... I'm doing it and ignore that pile of money from TDO over there."

Could be. I was only referring to the show I had linked to my post.

It's very possible that he could do that on all of his shows, but I haven't listened to him in a long time.

I listened to his early shows because they were more about the history of WDW. I stopped listening when he started brand preaching and only released the history at a small (now substantial) fee.

Btw I learn more from members of this site and @marni1971 's videos than I ever did listening to lou

 

[71jason]

There were several different illuminations dessert parties arranged for Epcot's 30th that charged a fee to attend. I paid around $80 to attend one.

Let me guess--arranged by blogs/websites with a strong pro-Disney bias? They might not have a Mongello-level deal--who does?--but I bet they were screened and approved.

 

[Ariel1986]

But your time spent waiting in line would be (theoretically) drastically reduced, so the loss comes with a benefit.

But only a benefit if you pay for it. In that scenario you'd have to pay or you can't ride it at all- when before you could ride it without an up-charge. The que part is irrelevant. Currently people ride all the rides for the price of their entrance ticket. Even if you were not having to que you would still be paying for something you didn't have to before.
Paying to skip the line would be a benefit if it was an up-charge over the standby line, not if you couldn't ride it at all unless you pay.

 

[71jason]

@asianway Found your link, I think--talking about the Star Tours preview in 2011?

Funny thing, Universal did the same thing with "The Compound" this year. Random sweepstakes on Twitter for a dessert party and meet & greet with a Face Off contestant that a disproportionate number of pro-UNI bloggers seemed to win. Turns out half the spots went out in the contest, the other half were quietly given to Social Media's favorite fanbois.

Just shows there's nothing new under the sun--and the distinguished competition up the street can play just as dirty as the Mouse.

 

[Ariel1986]

This would be the logical extension of Disney's current model of upcharge events etc.

But the upcharge events aren't replacing things that used to be free- and they're not a "you have to pay this upcharge or you can't do the things you used to". You can still watch the fireworks if you don't pay for premium viewing. Having to pay for rides on top of your entrance ticket or you can't ride them, when you used to be able to ride them for the price of your entrance ticket is different. I can't see it happening.

 

[BrerJon]

Paying to skip the line would be a benefit if it was an up-charge over the standby line, not if you couldn't ride it at all unless you pay.

Maybe they'll cut entrance prices, so those not going on the big rides aren't forced to pay for them, unlike the current socialist policy where you have to pay the same as others even if you don't go on the rides.

If a 1-day MK ticket goes down to $75, plus you never have to wait in long lines... 'Fastpass Your Way', if you will... that's a pretty compelling way from a marketing point of view to counteract Universal constantly building new attractions.

 

[FigmentJedi]

A thought occurs in regards to the possibilities those Obi-Wan movies might open up: Ewan McGregor could totally rock a certain top hat and blue suit look for a certain old attraction that has just had another division of the company present a reasonable template for a movie. He'd certainly be better for it then Johnny Depp like that random Imagineer naively suggested in some D23 article when said comic started.

 

[asianway]

@asianway Found your link, I think--talking about the Star Tours preview in 2011?

Funny thing, Universal did the same thing with "The Compound" this year. Random sweepstakes on Twitter for a dessert party and meet & greet with a Face Off contestant that a disproportionate number of pro-UNI bloggers seemed to win. Turns out half the spots went out in the contest, the other half were quietly given to Social Media's favorite fanbois.

Just shows there's nothing new under the sun--and the distinguished competition up the street can play just as dirty as the Mouse.

Yessir, that's the one.

 

[SirLink]

Any reason?

Ulitidor entrance, drop off point for CM's from parking, merch un/loading and F+B un/loading.

 

[truecoat]

Excellent - I suppose the new series will pick up after the dream sequence which ended the series.

Takes place in present day.

 

[ford91exploder]

But the upcharge events aren't replacing things that used to be free- and they're not a "you have to pay this upcharge or you can't do the things you used to". You can still watch the fireworks if you don't pay for premium viewing. Having to pay for rides on top of your entrance ticket or you can't ride them, when you used to be able to ride them for the price of your entrance ticket is different. I can't see it happening.

My perspective is different I WAS at the parks in the 80's and 90's when EVERYTHING was free (except the VIP tours) now all the really special events which in the past used to be free have morphed into UPCHARGE events.

 

[ford91exploder]

But the upcharge events aren't replacing things that used to be free- and they're not a "you have to pay this upcharge or you can't do the things you used to". You can still watch the fireworks if you don't pay for premium viewing. Having to pay for rides on top of your entrance ticket or you can't ride them, when you used to be able to ride them for the price of your entrance ticket is different. I can't see it happening.

I can - especially with Iger/Staggs/Rasulo desperate to make MM+ a financial success at least in the 'Street's eyes

 

[Bolna]

@asianway Found your link, I think--talking about the Star Tours preview in 2011?

Funny thing, Universal did the same thing with "The Compound" this year. Random sweepstakes on Twitter for a dessert party and meet & greet with a Face Off contestant that a disproportionate number of pro-UNI bloggers seemed to win. Turns out half the spots went out in the contest, the other half were quietly given to Social Media's favorite fanbois.

Just shows there's nothing new under the sun--and the distinguished competition up the street can play just as dirty as the Mouse.

Interesting - but nor surprising.

The thread moved on from the initial reason to bring up social media and mainly stayed on topic for most of the time, so more to come on the following pages. It was an interesting discussion!

 

[Nubs70]

Just a quick thought on the new lumberjack show...

Do you think Disney, a company which has been "trying" to focus on the "going green" aspect in iur culture a of late, will receive backlash from all the trees their show is using and destroying for entertainment purposes???

Oh come on, it's not like Disney is putting on Michael Vick' s Dog Show. Trees do grow back.

 

[flynnibus]

Let me guess--arranged by blogs/websites with a strong pro-Disney bias? They might not have a Mongello-level deal--who does?--but I bet they were screened and approved.

All rentals would be anyways... Disney isn't going to open their doors simply on the pretext of "you have money, I can't stop you".

 

[dhall]

Just wanted to add to the DLP discussion that my German newspaper is reporting that it is likely that if Disney ends up with most of the new shares that it will be forced due to French share market regulations to make an offer to the other share holders to buy them all out. Just as I originally thought. Seems like this is Disney's intent behind the whole thing.

And it totally makes sense that this has been planned for a long time. This must have been the reason behind Disney taking over all the debt some time ago. I am pretty sure they had that plan laid out then already. And @ParentsOf4 analysis was quite spot on. That's why they waited until they got the really bad results for the last business year (which are not surprising).

What are the chances that they've planned to do the ultimate buy-out of EuroDisney with the shares that they've spent billions buying back?

 

[twebber55]

with full control of DLP will they throw tons of money into those parks ie avatar, star wars, and marvel

 

[Sue_Vongello]

What about the chances of a WDW monorail expansion to Disneyland Paris?

 

[truecoat]

What about the chances of a WDW monorail expansion to Disneyland Paris?

I heard it was a done deal. They are starting to put tube footers right off Port Canaveral as we speak. No more boat cruises, now you can cruise Under the Sea in a monorail.