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[Longhairbear]

No, I totally agree, Goof.

My issue is with the DVC apologists who claim how low or non pressure their sales are. They are not. They are very manipulative, just in a different way than other companies.

The DVC apologists may be people like me who bought back in 2003. At that time there was no pressure to buy, but things change. We went to a DVC event at the GC just as sales were about to start there. There was loads of pressure to buy AK, points "to get your foot in the door". We already were members but they insisted, we passed on the offer. Then when GC went on sale, the economy crashed and we couldn't afford more points, by the time we could afford them, they had sold out.

 

[Cesar R M]

To those crowing about the nice work done on the new Lion King theater, my only question would be why? That should be the expectation with everything Disney does for the prices they charge and the PR they spin.

Anyone who thinks WDW ever had a problem with Coke thievery should have a meal at my local Chipotle.
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Well, after a constant stream of disappointments for almost a decade with almost null innovation in the parks.
Id say people were surprised again that they could pull the theatre in the "little time" they had.

imho; WDW CAN still and will do these kind of buildings as long a beancounter doesn't come with some random BS excuse to slash the budget even further on an already slashed to hell budget.

 

[tamotu99]

For me it's still every bit of a headliner or E-ticket or whatever you want to call it. I'm not sure how the other guy defines a 2nd string attraction, but in my mind that equates to a C ticket or less. No way SSE falls into that category in my book even with any of the changes you mentioned.

I don't follow you here. They build a ride that is rumored to be an advanced version of the Soarin' ride in a different park, with a different theme and Soarin' will lose its appeal?

People will probably stop riding Pirates when the Avatar boat ride opens also.

Ok first of i like SSE i ride it just about every time i go in Epcot (unless i enter by IG just for the fireworks), but what i meant by second string attraction was not that it was a bad attraction, but that it doesnt have the pulling power that Soarin/Test track currently do, 90% of people ride it as they walk into the park, and after about 1pm it pretty much becomes a walk on, and yes i dont like the changes to the ending, especially when the 'future' is just not realistic, i also feel the after ride area has lost something as well, apart from the where are you from globe, it is all very individual and doesnt really give anything


At one time Tiki room was state of the art, then other attractions got better animotronics, and slowly tiki rooms appeal faded because you knew that nearby was something better, i imagine the same would happened for soarin, im not saying it would be empty by any means (mostly cos theres not a lot else ride wise in epcot) but i dont think people would cue for 90 minutes to do a lesser version of a ride that they could get a FP+ and ride tomorrow with virtually no queue

 

[Darth Sidious]

They just need to cancel all that reality crap.

I don't watch reality tv haha, so I'd agree!

 

[WildcatDen]

Hunchback is up next after Frozen. Rehearsals are happening now in Cali. Then it moves to Paper Mill Playhouse followed by Broadway if all goes to plan.

The first time I watched Hunchback I commented to my wife how well it would fit into Broadway. Glad to see they are doing this one. Could be fantastic!

 

[WildcatDen]

The Mouse has got quite a pair on him.

As big as Church Bells. . .

 

[Funmeister]

Hunchback will be great but not sure if it will be as great as when I saw it on stage in 1999. (fingers crossed)

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

If I'm not mistaken aren't you <25 and kidless?

I do think dcl has a significant donut hole problem in the demographics it appeals to. I'd argue all the way from 18-35

I wish I was under 25! No kids though, so I realize we aren't the target demo for DCL - still, it was the most boring 7 days of my traveling life. Hopefully in the time since we took a DCL cruise they've improved their offerings. We were on the Magic, so I don't know what the new ships are like, but even still, I think they're way overpriced based on other premium lines.

 

[Jose]

Are you asking or telling me?

And I think ABC is quite happy with its current Castle show.

LOL, the castle show "Dream along with Mickey"

 

[tamotu99]

British TV

 

[coolbeans14]

The new Spidey was good, but extremely cartoonish I think...I had a real problem with some of the gimmicks...

Ie: spidey riding on the front end of a truck, his cell phone rings and he answers it. His ring tone was the spidey theme!!!

I preferred it being a bit sillier than most comic book movies. I thought Garfield and Stone were great. But I got really bored halfway through

Spoiler

the secret subway base- really?!

and there was WAY too much dub step for my liking.

My biggest problem is that a certain moment was kind of violent, without you seeing anything, but that's a wider problem with 12/ pg-13 movies, that you can get away with way too much nowadays

 

[PhotoDave219]

LOL, the castle show "Dream along with Mickey"

That's not going to change anytime soon IMO

 

[Travel Junkie]

I don't really agree. Most of DCA still fits the general California theme ...even Cars Land looks like old Route 66 out in the deserts near Barstow in places. Most of it, even the slightly out of place stuff, works.

As opposed to most of what has been added to WDW parks ... Monsters and toon alien blue dogs in Tomorrowland ... Fairy meet and greets in Adventureland ... (with apologies go George Scribner) The Three Cabelleros in Mexico ....a giant hat at the end if Hollywood Blvd. I rest my case.

Exactly. Besides a Bug’s land (and technically there are bugs in California) DCA is pretty representative of California. Carsland fits pretty well into DCA unless you are going to be a stickler and say the movie didn’t technically take place in the state.

As you said, WDW takes much greater liberties than DCA does.

As a side note Star Wars set pics have invaded the net. Be wary if you are trying to avoid seeing anything.

 

[71jason]

The new Spidey was good, but extremely cartoonish I think...I had a real problem with some of the gimmicks...

Ie: spidey riding on the front end of a truck, his cell phone rings and he answers it. His ring tone was the spidey theme!!!

Funny, I thought that and his chemistry with Gwen were the two best things in the movie. Contrary to the Nolan-verse, not all movies based on superheroes have to be "grimdark" to make grown fanbois feel better about watching them ("But it's more like a Michael Mann film than a cartoon!"). Spidey's starred in comic books and animated series for generations--his movie should be cartoony.

I'm reminded of a tweet Film Critic Hulk put after the whole "BatKid" day in SF. 5-year-olds like Batman and Spider-Man too. Why can't we have superhero movies that remember that fact?

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

I still think Monstropolis is a -poor and creatively bankrupt idea for DCA. There's no public demand, it thematically makes zero sense in Hollywood Land and it's just lazy. Hope it dies again and a better proposal takes its place.

 

[wdisney9000]

...well, I had a fascinating visit with some friends at the 1901 Lounge at DCA where the subject of Disney and the online whores was discussed over great food and drinks and ...yeah, if only ...

Id love to be a fly on that wall

 

[Mike S]

I still think Monstropolis is a -poor and creatively bankrupt idea for DCA. There's no public demand, it thematically makes zero sense in Hollywood Land and it's just lazy. Hope it dies again and a better proposal takes its place.

Hopefully it dies over there and we finally get the Door Coaster over here.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

Hopefully it does over there and we finally get the Door Coaster over here.

It would fit better at DHS in Pixar Place, especially in a park so desperate for attraction, but I don't even think they're considering it based on what I've heard (could be wrong).

 

[PhotoDave219]

Exactly. Besides a Bug’s land (and technically there are bugs in California) DCA is pretty representative of California. Carsland fits pretty well into DCA unless you are going to be a stickler and say the movie didn’t technically take place in the state.

As you said, WDW takes much greater liberties than DCA does.

As a side note Star Wars set pics have invaded the net. Be wary if you are trying to avoid seeing anything.

Thanks. I'm gonna go stuck my head in the sand and watch Game of Thrones & do laundry in the meantime.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I still think Monstropolis is a -poor and creatively bankrupt idea for DCA. There's no public demand, it thematically makes zero sense in Hollywood Land and it's just lazy. Hope it dies again and a better proposal takes its place.

Amen.