The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

JediMasterMatt

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That is absolutely true, but, I am talking about the first time visitor that somehow has gotten the idea that Stitch isn't worth seeing. How? By reading boards asking people that have seen it and didn't like it much or just not knowing what to expect once they enter the door of the attraction. That is where the promotion has let down. When they first opened Stitch they promoted the hell out of it. And it was busy. Then the return visitor, having seen it once, like it or not, didn't see it as something that they would need to return to every trip. Disney stopped promoting it, the "I hate it" crowd became the dominate source of information and therefore even the first timers were not attending it.

Whatever the case, due to the configuration of the building and the fact that they have sooooo many other things that need attention first, Stitch will be there for a long time to come. It is the least of their problems. I, personally, don't think it is a GREAT attraction, but, it is cute and funny in spots, especially the preshow and I do go back once in a while. It's no where near as bad as the naysayers would like you to believe. Things like that do not upset me near as much as the primary reason for the loss of The Timekeeper. That was a funny show, fast paced and no animatronic has ever been as spot on with body language connected to the voice (Robin Williams) as that one was. The reason for it's unpopularity? You had to stand up to see it. Like anyone could tell me how you get the full effect of a 360 movie experience sitting in a stationary spot. Lazy coupled with ignorance of the world around them are the two things that come to mind when I think about it.

Even if they continued to promote it, the ultimate hallmark of success is repeat business. That is the problem with much of the resort currently. The few attractions that do shine on their own and are hallmarks have to carry too much of the weight. After guests have done those, they would rather repeat on them than wait for one of the under-utilized ones. Is this because the attraction in question is old? Not usually. It is typically a sign of a failed one.

The problem with WDW now is that there are too many of those and not enough changes happening while we are waiting for MM+ to fix everything. This especially true as attendance is still rising.

A wristband isn't going to fix Stitch. Capital expenditures are what is needed.
 

JediMasterMatt

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That's really cool. The Morey family has done such a great job revitalizing the boardwalk, unifying the piers, adding new attractions each year, the cleanliness, just constant improvement. But boy would I love to be able to still ride the Golden Nugget.

You still can <sort of>.

Knoebel's in Elysburg, PA purchased the ride and has reopened it as Black Diamond. It's not 100% the same; but, it is close and uses many of the same stunts as it did in Wildwood.

I think it's better than ever, plus a trip to Knoebels is one ever fan of amusement parks should make.
 

FabulousFigment

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That's really cool. The Morey family has done such a great job revitalizing the boardwalk, unifying the piers, adding new attractions each year, the cleanliness, just constant improvement. But boy would I love to be able to still ride the Golden Nugget.

I don't think I ever rode The Golden Nugget. How long has it been gone for? I have gone every year of my life. Twice each summer - once for family vacation and once for Fireman's Convention.

Is your avatar some random dead guy, or is that Eddie?
 

WDW1974

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Original Poster
C'mon, guys/gals, can we please not spend 3-4 pages on subjects such as Bronies and the merits (or relative merits) of the Jersey Shore? I don't want to ask/have mods cleaning up here, but there are enough subjects that at least have relevance to Disney and the entertainment business that we shouldn't have to go that far off the rails.

Thanks.

News/perspective to follow in my next post.
 
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Goofyernmost

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Quick Uni update.

With the exception of audio issues Gringrots is almost completely dialed in.

While they are not expecting the same crowds like when Potter opened, they are staffing as if it could happen. Anyone who can breathe gets some kind of employment.
OMG, that can't be true. It's only Disney with their obsession for cutting budgets that has problems like that on start-ups. Surely Comcast would have thrown money at it at the time of building so nothing like that would ever happen. Yes, that is sarcasm!
 

WDW1974

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Some Spirited Frozen Perspective While it is 95 and HUMID as Hell Outside the Spirit Cave Now:

I see that Disney has announced their last-minute Frozen ... do you even call this a promo? for TPFKaTD-MGMS.

Before the fanbois (are they named Hans or Sven because according to one of my local radio ... you remember radio, right? ... station says that babies are being named after Frozen characters at a blizzard pace) say this is the mythical (as it only exists along with unicorns and rainbow dash!) Potter Swatter, I have some COLD reality for you.

This has all been thrown together in the last few weeks. Yes, weeks. This wasn't even on the table when May turned to June.

Why now?

Well, this should put the nail in the coffin of anyone who still believes Disney execs are quality and on top of their businesses. This came about because the head of P&R recently figured out that the Florida park supposedly devoted to the wonders of things like film had absolutely nothing related to Disney's biggest animated hit of all-time represented in the park. Tom 'On Top of Things' Staggs pushed Georgie K and Lee's Boy, Danny Cockerell, and the result is a budget-basement thrown together mess that, hopefully, won't be as bad as it sounded on the DPB.

Understand this 'Frozen Initiative' as a kind source explained it to me was so unplanned that character rehearsals/casting, merchandise and, very important here, lots and lots of pyro all have to be cast and/or acquired. It is as said source said ''an effing mess'' ... but that is why this is happening now. This is why there was no word of it at the summer showcase media/blogging event that went on around May 1st.

This like what happens when your high school decides to throw a last-minute summer festival ... it isn't what you expect from the world's top entertainment company.

But maybe you should.
 

WDW1974

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Original Poster
Repeating Spirited News because the proper thread has been taken over by summer-like behavior (see, it isn't simply here), but a flagship Apple Store has been CONFIRMED to be a new tenant at TSFKaDD.

And, no, this has nothing to do with the insane (summertime, summertime ... ) thread that suggests Apple wants to dine on Mouse.
 

Quinnmac000

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So this show is going to be sloppy and not well organized???

Well at least we know Disney is starting to excel in one thing regard this then...mediocrity.

Though I'm still l going in September like a fool hoping to be amazed.
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
Some Spirited Frozen Perspective While it is 95 and HUMID as Hell Outside the Spirit Cave Now:

I see that Disney has announced their last-minute Frozen ... do you even call this a promo? for TPFKaTD-MGMS.

Before the fanbois (are they named Hans or Sven because according to one of my local radio ... you remember radio, right? ... station says that babies are being named after Frozen characters at a blizzard pace) say this is the mythical (as it only exists along with unicorns and rainbow dash!) Potter Swatter, I have some COLD reality for you.

This has all been thrown together in the last few weeks. Yes, weeks. This wasn't even on the table when May turned to June.

Why now?

Well, this should put the nail in the coffin of anyone who still believes Disney execs are quality and on top of their businesses. This came about because the head of P&R recently figured out that the Florida park supposedly devoted to the wonders of things like film had absolutely nothing related to Disney's biggest animated hit of all-time represented in the park. Tom 'On Top of Things' Staggs pushed Georgie K and Lee's Boy, Danny Cockerell, and the result is a budget-basement thrown together mess that, hopefully, won't be as bad as it sounded on the DPB.

Understand this 'Frozen Initiative' as a kind source explained it to me was so unplanned that character rehearsals/casting, merchandise and, very important here, lots and lots of pyro all have to be cast and/or acquired. It is as said source said ''an effing mess'' ... but that is why this is happening now. This is why there was no word of it at the summer showcase media/blogging ***** event that went on around May 1st.

This like what happens when your high school decides to throw a last-minute summer festival ... it isn't what you expect from the world's top entertainment company.

But maybe you should.
Have to offset those summer-long discounts any way they can. Fourth quarter reporting is just around the corner after all....
 

WDW1974

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Is @KevinYee on vacation, 3 weeks and no article on mice chat since the "Can't we all just get along" article.

Who knows? It is summer and Kevin certainly can take a break whenever he wants. I know the rest of the important Micechat guys (except for Fidel's little bro!) spent a few weeks in Europe of late, including a Med cruise on the MAGIC and a visit to DLP.

I don't have a Faux Top One Percent Spirited Summer Holiday scheduled, unfortunately (perhaps, if you each kicked in some $$$, then I could take one!), but I am feeling frustrated at the typical summer fanboi antics and am thinking about a sabbatical myself.

As to @KevinYee, I think he needs to reevaluate what he is doing on Micechat and what the market wants (see, I can speak like a soulless capitalist too!) because he's becoming another Jim Hill type (counting down the time before a certain New Englander comes in and defends him), where his relevant days are in the past.
 

John

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Repeating Spirited News because the proper thread has been taken over by summer-like behavior (see, it isn't simply here), but a flagship Apple Store has been CONFIRMED to be a new tenant at TSFKaDD.

And, no, this has nothing to do with the insane (summertime, summertime ... ) thread that suggests Apple wants to dine on Mouse.


I wonder what it says about me that I do not own one Apple product.....nope....not one.
 

Mike S

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Some Spirited Frozen Perspective While it is 95 and HUMID as Hell Outside the Spirit Cave Now:

I see that Disney has announced their last-minute Frozen ... do you even call this a promo? for TPFKaTD-MGMS.

Before the fanbois (are they named Hans or Sven because according to one of my local radio ... you remember radio, right? ... station says that babies are being named after Frozen characters at a blizzard pace) say this is the mythical (as it only exists along with unicorns and rainbow dash!) Potter Swatter, I have some COLD reality for you.

This has all been thrown together in the last few weeks. Yes, weeks. This wasn't even on the table when May turned to June.

Why now?

Well, this should put the nail in the coffin of anyone who still believes Disney execs are quality and on top of their businesses. This came about because the head of P&R recently figured out that the Florida park supposedly devoted to the wonders of things like film had absolutely nothing related to Disney's biggest animated hit of all-time represented in the park. Tom 'On Top of Things' Staggs pushed Georgie K and Lee's Boy, Danny Cockerell, and the result is a budget-basement thrown together mess that, hopefully, won't be as bad as it sounded on the DPB.

Understand this 'Frozen Initiative' as a kind source explained it to me was so unplanned that character rehearsals/casting, merchandise and, very important here, lots and lots of pyro all have to be cast and/or acquired. It is as said source said ''an effing mess'' ... but that is why this is happening now. This is why there was no word of it at the summer showcase media/blogging ***** event that went on around May 1st.

This like what happens when your high school decides to throw a last-minute summer festival ... it isn't what you expect from the world's top entertainment company.

But maybe you should.
Just like I thought, no special reason to go up and see it. I'll be in the area again during this anyway so it wouldn't hurt to check it out on the side. Can't wait for Diagon Alley though, at least something big is happening in O-Town this year.
 
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bhg469

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Repeating Spirited News because the proper thread has been taken over by summer-like behavior (see, it isn't simply here), but a flagship Apple Store has been CONFIRMED to be a new tenant at TSFKaDD.

And, no, this has nothing to do with the insane (summertime, summertime ... ) thread that suggests Apple wants to dine on Mouse.
Yuck..

That is all.
 

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