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[SJN1279]

A cheap overlay to an existing attraction and a new movie constitute 'major' additions now?

If what is happening to Epcot is major, exactly what word do you use to describe the additions happening at Universal?

Outside of Potter, all Universal has done in recent years are clones or overlays of existing attractions.

 

[Bairstow]

Part of being able to maintain ownership of intellectual property is actively protecting that intellectual property.

True enough, but being overly litigious to the point that you are actively outraging and alienating your customer base is poor corporate strategy.

 

[PeterAlt]

Peter - it's not that people don't like you, but when you post the same comments in multiple threads and don't let it go, it just gets on everyone's nerves. As far as the pile of dirt thread is concerned, all those comments were just meant to be funny - nothing attacking you. read it again - some of those comments are pretty darn funny.

I didn't even read it. I saw what was going on after what happened here and that was my turning point.

As for saying the same thing in multiple threads, I don't realize I'm doing it when I do it, but I'll be more conscience about it now that you've said it.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Sad and cheap... Describes how the park upgrades are going.

Cannot ague with that.............I keep hoping that Iger has woken up and things will move better, but Disney keeps everything as quiet as possible..................so all there is lots of rumors.


AKK

 

[Bairstow]

Outside of Potter, all Universal has done in recent years are clones or overlays of existing attractions.

So other than raising the technological and thematic bar for the entire industry, re-writing the books on food/attraction/merchandise integration, and upsetting the balance of power in the Orlando theme park hierarchy they haven't done anything?

 

[PeterAlt]

As much as I would love a monorail addition and as much as it would probably have been more profitable than mm+ (no joke). Its not happening. They're about to slap a dress on a viking and ***** out Norway to save some money.

I wasn't even talking about that. It was just a point of reference for something that was going on in the distance beyond that.

 

[lazyboy97o]

So other than raising the technological and thematic bar for the entire industry, re-writing the books on food/attraction/merchandise integration, and upsetting the balance of power in the Orlando theme park hierarchy they haven't done anything?

He thinks Shanghai Shendi Group financing a new version of Soarin' is a major change for Walt Disney World.

 

[PeterAlt]

Hurray! We're getting the Mermaid refurb!!!

We are? Where did you hear that?

 

[dadddio]

You do realize the majority of Orlando vacationers do not stay on property and do not have APs--meaning they don't have access to this system? Disney fanboard provincialism.

???

Off-site guests can prereserve their FP+s thirty days out.

 

[arko]

You do realize the majority of Orlando vacationers do not stay on property and do not have APs--meaning they don't have access to this system? Disney fanboard provincialism.

I agree the new system is better for APs like me than anyone else. I took advantage of it to get an early FP to 7 Dwarves Sunday, was in and off and back on my way in 2 hours. But the byproduct--insane lines for attractions that shouldn't have them--is obvious at this point. And that will end up affecting on-site guests more than APs, and off-site guests more than on-site guests.

We can talk about whether people like MM+ or not all we want, but the fact is off site guests have the same access to the system as AP holders as long as they buy their tickets in advance just like those staying on site would have to.
The only advantage to the old system was for those who knew how to game it and get as many FP's as they could in a day, which they can no longer do.

Most reports have also indicated that most rides are available for FP+ at the kiosks provided you get there early enough, which is no different than the old days of FP.

 

[rael ramone]

And in Orlando with the often makeup-less face and the slightly greasy hair pulled back into a scrunchy as their "hairdo".

Well, if they are living out of their car.....

 

[CDavid]

Outside of Potter, all Universal has done in recent years are clones or overlays of existing attractions.

Yes, by conveniently excluding their two largest additions, all Universal has brought us are things like Transformers and The Simpsons.

Outside of New Fantasyland, what has Disney added over four parks in a similar time period?

???

Off-site guests can prereserve their FP+s thirty days out.

Many off-site guests do no even buy their tickets until they arrive that day at the park gates.

 

[MichWolv]

Outside of Potter, all Universal has done in recent years are clones or overlays of existing attractions.

If you stick with the IOA park, you're probably justified in complaining about the lack of new stuff, because, other than Potter, there's been very little since the place opened.

But in original park, "recent years" (I went back about 5 years, I think) have seen the Simpsons Ride (made use of the old ride system, but a very different experience), Rip Ride Rocket (completely new), Despicable Me Minion Mayhem (again, made use of the old ride system, but a completely different experience), the new version of Earthquake/Disaster (overlay with improvements, but a very similar experience), Transformers (completely new to the park, but a clone of the Hollywood ride opened a year earlier). Not a bad run. Even if most are clones/replacements/overlays, they did them well, and aside from Earthquake, they don't feel like just updates -- they are new experiences.

 

[arko]

Many off-site guests do no even buy their tickets until they arrive that day at the park gates.

And once in the park those people can use the kiosks, and once linked to their MDE the app on subsequent days.
Most reports have indicated that most rides are available at the kiosks provided you get there early enough, which makes it not much different than the old days.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Yes, by conveniently excluding their two largest additions, all Universal has brought us are things like Transformers and The Simpsons.

Outside of New Fantasyland, what has Disney added over four parks in a similar time period?




Many off-site guests do no even buy their tickets until they arrive that day at the park gates.

The Happiest Celebration on Earth really spoiled us.

Other than new fantasyland, it's just been "plussing" and overlays.

 

[SJN1279]

Yes, by conveniently excluding their two largest additions, all Universal has brought us are things like Transformers and The Simpsons.

Outside of New Fantasyland, what has Disney added over four parks in a similar time period?




Many off-site guests do no even buy their tickets until they arrive that day at the park gates.

Updated Star Tours(first simulator to have multiple ride experiences), Toy Story Mania, Updated Test Track, Captain Jack show, Agent P(which I love), Sum of All Thrills, New Parade in MK, Monster's Inc Laugh Floor, Finding Nemo Musical, American Idol, Disney Junior Live, renovations to Space Mountain, Haunted Mansion, and Hall of Presidents.

Universal added Despicable Me as well(I loved DM and The Simpsons at Universal, Transformers not so much).

 

[Bairstow]

Updated Star Tours(first simulator to have multiple ride experiences), Toy Story Mania, Updated Test Track, Captain Jack show, Agent P(which I love), Sum of All Thrills, New Parade in MK, Monster's Inc Laugh Floor, Finding Nemo Musical, American, Idol, Disney Junior Live, renovations to Space Mountain, Haunted Mansion, and Hall of Presidents.

Universal added Despicable Me as well(I loved DM and The Simpsons at Universal, Transformers not so much).

I'd just point out that a lot of the stuff you mentioned, like Midway Mania, Sum of All Thrills, and the Finding Nemo Musical is way older than Wizarding World.

 

[SJN1279]

The Sim

I'd just point out that a lot of the stuff you mentioned, like Midway Mania, Sum of All Thrills, and the Finding Nemo Musical is way older than Wizarding World.

The Simpsons and Toy Story Mania both opened May 2008(both are awesome attractions).

 

[Jose]

We are? Where did you hear that?

He says that on page 28

 

[lazyboy97o]

Updated Star Tours(first simulator to have multiple ride experiences), Toy Story Mania, Updated Test Track, Captain Jack show, Agent P(which I love), Sum of All Thrills, New Parade in MK, Monster's Inc Laugh Floor, Finding Nemo Musical, American Idol, Disney Junior Live, renovations to Space Mountain, Haunted Mansion, and Hall of Presidents.

Universal added Despicable Me as well(I loved DM and The Simpsons at Universal, Transformers not so much).

We get it. You don't like Universal.