Cesar R M
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so, more Hawaii trips or Hawaii to Japan-korea-shangai triangle?
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Magenta Panther
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It is probably one of Walt's weakest animated films. He admitted it himself, saying, "It just kind of got away from me..." (He was busy with Disneyland at the time, I think...)
But man, as animated films go, is it ever gorgeous...and the dragon!!!! Best movie dragon ever.
No, Spirit doesn't know everything. But he knows a helluva lot. And he is even willing to share much of what he knows here with strangers. Aren't you lucky?
Things do change and that is why it, frankly, takes a lot of balls to show up here and do what I do. When things change, suddenly, I'm a liar or had my facts wrong, even when neither of those is true. But would you prefer a site where people just talk about their favorite rides, moderate resorts at WDW or characters? Because that is the other option.
I state facts as I know them to be when I can source them. I state rumours when I either only have one source or have a very good idea something is accurate, but don't have all the facts. I state opinions because I love my opinions and I love how they affect others so deeply, so primal.
Cars Land was never a done deal. It was a strongly considered possibility that was more like a probability. Star Wars isn't the same thing. It will be happening in DL and in WDW and, likely, in most foreign resorts in one form or another. The fact it was delayed doesn't change the inevitability of it.
I don't want to appear smarmy, although I feel like I am posting a lot because I heard something troubling tonight (no, not about Disney, only about someone near and dear to me so you can exhale now) and I am reminded of a conversation I had with two dear friends about the Disney fan community and how you can never make them happy and I agree. Not sure what makes fans happy, but sometimes I am convinced it is bad news. I could start a thread about how great my cruise was and how much I enjoyed DLR, but that isn't really what most of you want to hear.
I am truly sorry for all of us that the WDW of 2014 isn't the WDW of 1974 or 1984 or 1994. I am sorry that it is largely run by soul less execs that only care about the bottom line, and that they have destroyed much of what made the place special for millions of us. But that simply is the reality. You can make the best of it or stop visiting or visit and spend less (as I do) or rail about it online and to folks behind the scenes and see what kind of toxic stew you can brew that just might take a few of those missing souls down into the abyss.
One thing I can say is all the Mommy Bloggers in the world can't change the fact that UNI is the resort where things are happening this summer ... and next ... and the next ... and ...
FigmentJedi
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Sleeping Beauty is where Walt-era animated features peaked in my opinion (and that's definitely true on the technical level what with the switch to Xerox). The artistry, classy atmosphere, the villain, and the amazing climax were heights never really reached again until the 90s Renaissance. There's a reason that it's continued to be a reference point within the parks and Disney in general besides the initial Disneyland synergy.
But the movie just keeps taking a dump on the source material in it's efforts to try and copy the Wicked formula and miss the point of what made that revisionist Oz fanfic work.
But the movie just keeps taking a dump on the source material in it's efforts to try and copy the Wicked formula and miss the point of what made that revisionist Oz fanfic work.
Next line of DCL ships will most certainly be a size in between the classic ships and the new ones. The only way one isn't named the Disney Spirit is if someone who hates me greatly is still with the company at that time in a position of power (no, not kidding at all) ... as to your point about them being operated by different companies, it sure feels that way, doesn't it? But they aren't.
DCL is run out of Celebration Place,mere spitting distance from where Dr. Blondie and Co. play the social media manipulation game (not telling anyone to spit on the dear woman, that would be vile, firing her would be better but since they won't even touch Jason Surrell until he gets physical with someone ...)
That quote was attributed to MAGICal Steve, who may have gotten a tad over enthused by the news. Also, tere was a strong pull to spin this positively as I was contacted by a few WDI types asking just that. Oh, I refused, of course, because they gave me nothing whatsoever to back up that opinion. ... And I recently heard that Fitz doesn't have much time left before he joins his old sparing partner, Tony Baxter, in the land of ex-Imagineers.
Yep.
Trying to think of them now ...Tron Track has one ... Everest has one ... RnRC has one ... I think that's it. I don't believe a single MK attraction has one. Anyone have a complete list?
Pardon me, but exactly what source does this come from and what rep do they have? Another words, do they know anything or are they taking my info and making stuff up that they believe sounds good?
Lee is a perfect hillbilly gentleman. I often wonder what it might take to get him to use some truly bad language. Mrs. Lee ... oh, she is such a different story!
When they are ready.
Sorry for the smartass response, but need to talk to my UNI peeps and have been sorta out of touch for five-plus weeks.
I wouldn't expect them for a while right now.
There will be one and it has been value-engineered. Think trees, potted flowers, trash cans and attraction posters. Not at all impressed.
Sometimes, Disney is so cheap it boggles the mind.
No plans for us whatsoever.
Mermaid looks so MUCH better at DCA with more fake fish added, a few props and blacklighting the Under The Sea room. How this wasn't done to begin with sorta boggles the mind again about the alleged talent that works for WDI. Now, they need (and plan to) rework the ending.
Oh, and WDW will get these fixes as well. But Phil will likely put them off as long as possible because while DL can operate with three E-Tickets and a C-Ticket down (and with a few E-Tix going down briefly during the day too!), MK simply is so low capacity that closing one urinal and popcorn cart can send the place careening toward hell.
Saw it on my cruise (along with many others Disney films I hadn't seen in years including Alice, Pan, 101 Dalmatians, Love Bug, Chicken Little and Jungle Book for starters) ... I rather enjoyed rediscovering it. Now, I do think the look of the film may overcome some deficiencies in the areas you mention. But I think you are being too hard on it.
BTW, why is it that Song of the South is vile and racist but Peter Pan with it's 'What Makes the Red Man, Red?' number isn't? Oh yeah, like Dumbo it sells hundreds of millions of dollars in merchandise!!!
remind me in the next few days when I am awake and will gladly share those happy (and humid) memories!
Snowflake82
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That sounds awful! I'm fine with making the baddie more "misunderstood", but not at the expense of character assassination of the other familiar characters.
This reminds me of the terrible live action Grinch movie (of which I never saw more than the first 30 minutes). In that one, the Who's were super materialistic about Christmas and mean to the Grinch as well, until he taught them the lesson, right? It's not quite the same as metaphorical rape; my point is more about completely changing other characters to serve the movie.
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Snowflake82
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I think another thread decided that it was a petite woman with a bad 80's haircut, but still, definitely a weird piece of artwork.
TP2000
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Bingo! I've noticed that too, but I couldn't quite put my finger on it for the longest time. And like you said, you notice it in both the paying visitors AND the Cast Members. Not that they are all perfect animatronics in Anaheim, and not that I haven't noticed great CM's in Orlando, but the CM's as a whole in Anaheim just look and act more well rested, more relaxed, and happy with things.
I notice it especially with the female CM's in Anaheim, in the obvious care and time they put into doing their hair and makeup for the day, like women who care about their professional appearance. Especially the young ladies working in Cars Land with their rockabilly hairdos, or on Buena Vista Street with their elaborately styled 1930's curls and waves. And in Orlando with the often makeup-less face and the slightly greasy hair pulled back into a scrunchy as their "hairdo".
There's an apparent difference in the type of life the average Orlando CM lives, versus the average Anaheim CM. It shows in their faces and their demeanor and often in things as silly as their hairdo, or lack of hairdo.
Longhairbear
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And that just points to how clueless they are, a market they don't see. Over build in FLA, and underbuild in a tight real estate situation in CA. Morons.
I love the small footprint of the villas too. But they could build a fourth tower at the DLH, or build a themed resort on the strawberry property.
They are giving away thousands of room stays to the local hotels, and ignoring a fan base of DVC owners, idiots.
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