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hopemax

hopemax

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Mike S said:
The only thing I would have with that is that it seems Finn and Rey was already set up pretty well. Would come completely out of left field and make almost no sense.
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Not necessarily. When Finn goes rushing to meet Poe after they get back to the Resistance base after the attack at Maz's, I thought to myself that scene could be interpreted in that way, if they wanted to got that way. And wondered if they would actually do it. That doesn't have to mean that Finn wasn't also interested in Rey.
 
Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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sshindel said:
It may be anecdotal, but I've found that for the most case when a statement starts with some variation of
"Think about it", or "Think about this", what comes next tends to be some form of conspiracy theory.

Think about it... How did the Egyptians know how to build the pyramids?
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these pesky aliens!

MARTA.. GIVE ME MY SHOTGUN!.. THE ALIENS ARE DOING LEWD STUFF IN OUR CROPS AGAIN!

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Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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hopemax said:
This popped up too. I put it here, because of the "no one was talking $3 Billion." I don't know Nomura. Perhaps they are the ones no one listens to? Ah, I see they are out of Japan.

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015...on-star-wars-while-btig-says-to-fadetheforce/

"He crunches some data on ticket pre-sales and concludes that Star Wars could gross $220 million to $276 million at the domestic box office on the opening weekend, and then go on to book between $2.4 billion and $3 billion in global box office receipts."

EDIT: Then I just found this Forbes article that cites the Nomura prediction. http://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiem...for-a-3-billion-box-office-take/#45f842032e00

In that article it quotes a Goldman Sachs analyst

"Other Wall Street analysts took on a more measured tone in talking about the movie (and its potential effect on Disney’s top and bottom line).

“We now estimate global box office for Star Wars: The Force Awakens of $1.95 billion in global box office — up from $1.5 billion previously — comprised of $750 million in domestic box office and $1.2 billion internationally,” wrote Goldman Sachs analyst Drew Borst."

1.1 vs 1.95 Billion is a Miss of 77%.

Also in that article, one of the Bullish analysts, BTIG's, Rich Greenfield said:

"Using the hashtag #FadetheForce, Greenfield noted that should The Force Awakensfail to gross more than $2 billion in worldwide box office revenue, Disney will fail to meet his and the Street’s estimates on earnings."

TFA is currently at $2,040,854,468
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I dont think things will be bad for TWDC. They can easily get a few billions more in merchandise.
And even more so with blurays and dvds.
 
sshindel

sshindel

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ford91exploder said:
Take a look at Nomura securities predictions on TFA @hopemax just posted links to the articles in question, People seem to think I keep a notebook of every 'anti' disney article
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No, I do not think you have a notebook, I promise. I just figured you might know off the top of your head. For example, I knew I had read a few Forbes articles pointing to somewhere between 1.5 and 2 billion were the standard estimates, most of them saying 1.5 as their estimate.
I did however seem to think that since you implied that Wall Street sees TFA as a failure, that it would be pretty easy to find articles backing that standpoint up. Wall Street is more than Nomura, whatever that is (no financial genius am I), and if TFA was seen as a failure, I figured it wasn't much to ask to find one place where you read this, because I wasn't able to find any.
 
Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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Mike S said:
The only thing I would have with that is that it seems Finn and Rey were already set up pretty well. Would come completely out of left field and make almost no sense.
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Rey does the thing with Chewie, makes kylo jealous and turns to the good side after chopping Luke and Snoke
Just like those severely disturbing fanfics you find around x_X
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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ford91exploder said:
Think about this, The stock fell like a rock post TFA release supposedly because of weakness in ESPN, Now look back to Spirit's post(s) about how TFA being the 'biggest most profitable movie EVAH' was baked into the stock price. Do you think anyone is going to admit that the overheated valuation of the stock was based on unrealistic expectations for a MOVIE????, No they are going to hang it on ESPN (which I also don't think is sustainable) Look at Iger desperately telling the analyst community to chill out about TFA that tells you all you need to know about what happened.
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The stock drop was also right after the lumberjack show at EPCOT was cancelled. Maybe that is the real "secret" reason:cool::cool::cool:
 
Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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TalkingHead said:
So when one of the bloggers, who enjoys "favored" status for Disney media events, posts a video of a guy dying on a roller coaster does that give Celebration Place second thoughts about who they're courting as "media"?

Purely hypothetical, of course.
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Didnt we had a discussion about this already with another blogger? aka the one who assaulted CMs, stole merchandise and pretty much committed fraud.. and is now being a chill for Disney?
 
Nick Pappagiorgio

Nick Pappagiorgio

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flynnibus said:
Think of the uselessness of this stat... It compares the pay of a person accountable for billions in revenue... And the someone who cleans toilets hourly. These are just heart string stats that really mean nothing.

Don't get me wrong, he's overpaid (as is most of that class)... But let's use stats that mean something.
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I like your scenario...say we took an average toilet cleaner from a disney park (neither the most intelligent nor the least intelligent), I would bet the company is still not 2800 times better of than it is with Bob.

So if that "means nothing" how would you calculate CEO pay?

And if you don't like that stat consider that average CEO pay has increased by nearly 937% since 1978 while average non-supervisory role pay has gone up a mere 10%. It shows that CEO pay is out of control.
 
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Lord_Vader

Lord_Vader

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flynnibus said:
Think of the uselessness of this stat... It compares the pay of a person accountable for billions in revenue... And the someone who cleans toilets hourly. These are just heart string stats that really mean nothing.

Don't get me wrong, he's overpaid (as is most of that class)... But let's use stats that mean something.
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Yep if the CEO really screw up thousands lose their jobs, the stock price tanks and investors lose a lot of money and the trickle down effect on local economies that can affect families for years but when a janitor screws up we have s**t everywhere which might slightly impose on a few guests momentarily but with a fifteen mi ute cleanup things get back to normal.
 
Lord_Vader

Lord_Vader

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Nick Pappagiorgio said:
I like your scenario...say we took an average toilet cleaner from a disney park (neither the most inelegant nor the least intelligent), I would bet the company is still not 2800 times better of than it is with Bob.

So if that "means nothing" how would you calculate CEO pay?

And if you don't like that stat consider that average CEO pay has increased by nearly 937% since 1978 while average non-supervisory role pay has gone up a mere 10%. It shows that CEO pay is out of control.
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It also shows the number of general labor employees is growing further depressing wages in service industry skill sets.
 

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