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SirNim

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...does anyone wanna discuss the horrific smog and it's impact on SDL? Because I think...it's worth discussing.

Disney and more posted that construction is halted due to the bad smog. How on earth is this park going to operate with this factor?
I'm sure Disney R&D in Pittsburgh has developed a chemtrail additive in collaboration with Monsanto that will dissipate smog in a safe, environmentally-friendly manner. Of course, the planes will only fly and seed the clouds within a 15 mile radius of SDL. The rest of the country is jus' gonna have to deal.
 

Soarin' Over Pgh

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I'm holding a grudge against the Aladdin spinners. The camel got me right in the face.

The bad place making of the ride is just the cherry on top.

:(
 

Soarin' Over Pgh

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I'm sure Disney R&D in Pittsburgh has developed a chemtrail additive in collaboration with Monsanto that will dissipate smog in a safe, environmentally-friendly manner. Of course, the planes will only fly and seed the clouds within a 15 mile radius of SDL. The rest of the country is jus' gonna have to deal.

Pixie dust?

Maybe they can use it in Pittsburgh too. Friday was awfully smoggy here.

;)
 

Animaniac93-98

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Disney and more posted that construction is halted due to the bad smog. How on earth is this park going to operate with this factor?

Disney's Magic [Gas] Masks will be available to rent (in half-a-dozen character styles!) at various locations throughout the park. Guests will also be able to customize their masks for an additional fee using embroidery and or sticky features.
 

alissafalco

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I'm holding a grudge against the Aladdin spinners. The camel got me right in the face.

The bad place making of the ride is just the cherry on top.

:(

Ya know that camel got me also last month. I was really annoyed because I was holding my cannon camera and the water splash went on my hand and up my arm and literally missed dowsing my camera by half an inch. I wanted to say you almost ruined my camera with this stupidity.
 

Clamman73

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Ya know that camel got me also last month. I was really annoyed because I was holding my cannon camera and the water splash went on my hand and up my arm and literally missed dowsing my camera by half an inch. I wanted to say you almost ruined my camera with this stupidity.

I took a picture of the Aloha Isle sign and was about the walk past the spinner, but was looking at the ground as to where it would regularly spit before walking past in hopes my camera wouldn't get soaked since it's not a sealed camera. I would have been freakin ed if that camel spit on my camera.
 

CDavid

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...does anyone wanna discuss the horrific smog and it's impact on SDL? Because I think...it's worth discussing.

Disney and more posted that construction is halted due to the bad smog. How on earth is this park going to operate with this factor?

How does the smog affect other outdoor recreational facilities in Shanghai? I suppose the citizens are acclimated to some extent; Do they avoid public parks and the like when the smog gets really bad? If so, then it is going to be a problem for SDL as well.
 

tissandtully

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Ya know that camel got me also last month. I was really annoyed because I was holding my cannon camera and the water splash went on my hand and up my arm and literally missed dowsing my camera by half an inch. I wanted to say you almost ruined my camera with this stupidity.
Most cameras are pretty splash proof, unless you're like changing a lens or something and you get squirted right inside the body. That would suck.
 

PhotoDave219

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Everyone see the smog in Shanghai that is off the charts unhealthy and has stopped work on all construction projects, including SDL, grounded planes and canceled school? ...yeah, I'm sure Iger didn't even take the horrific (trust me, as someone who has lived in three Chinese cities the worst day in LA isn't like what I saw in Beijing) environmental issues into consideration before signing a deal.

Thats foremost my concern about why they chose to build it in the first place. I mean, thats an insane problem and something the BOD should have asked when planning on building there.

SW has one helluva PR disaster on its hands with three named bands/performers pulling out of its concert series in light of the Blackfish film, which I have not seen. One Seas friend told me quite bluntly that 'we've had our issues in the past, but I'd put our current treatment and handling of the animals at the highest levels (in the industry) and as good or better than Disney. This film is just designed to mindlessly destroy us because they ignorantly think we can just let em (out) and shut our business down.''

All of these acts dropping out is insanely bad PR. Nobody wants to be associated with Sea World right now.

Fair or not, I think its a threat to their business that they need to take seriously.
 

Soarin' Over Pgh

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How does the smog affect other outdoor recreational facilities in Shanghai? I suppose the citizens are acclimated to some extent; Do they avoid public parks and the like when the smog gets really bad? If so, then it is going to be a problem for SDL as well.
Considering schools closed and traffic was greatly reduced by both pedestrian and even the police force? Hm.

It really begs the question of how the BOD approved plans for this park in the first place.

I'm sure with international travelers it's got to be a concern. What if the smog shuts down the airport (again) and they miss connector flights? Or how about the expensive disney hotels that they can't leave because the smog is so bad and a health warning was issued? How is disney going to cope with people who have spent $500 a night on their hotel in hopes of going to the park but suddenly can't?

...Some famous guy from some movie series once said "I've got a bad feeling about this" and i think this statement applies here...
 

jdmdisney99

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Easy answer. Just build a dome around it. ;)
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ThemeParkJunkee

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When I first heard about SDL, my very first thought was "what about the air quality?" How "magical" is that? Maybe locals would be more accustomed to it but I also believe the BOD had their respective heads in some inappropriate orifice when this idea came up.
 

The Empress Lilly

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I've heard it all when I hear complaints about the Tangled bathrooms lacking the theming of an abandoned skyway tower.
The area is Alpine themed. Thematic unity is the name of the game, the reason why Disney Parks can transport you to a different time and place.

[intermezzo]
The Alpine theme was done so well it could even double as north Italy. Bet few of you have ever seen this one, 'Pinocchioland' at the MK:

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[/intermezzo]

Speaking of intermezzo, that is exactly one funtion of this area. A small area that serves as a transition between two other areas. FL crosses over into LS in a fluid transition of style and mood. Before the MK became a potpourri of ill-matching tiny toontowns, one could walk from MS to AL to CPlaza to FrL to LS to FL without ever being conscious of crossing over into a different land. Nowhere was this effect done more perfectly than crossing from FL to LS.

Secondly, the area also served to fade off FL into unlimited space. The Skyway hillside functioned as the Jungle Cruise, or the RoI, or even Space Mountain and Pirates. As an area of unlimited space, making the MK feel endless, fading off into the horizonless distance. Like so:
fantasyland_skyway.png




Thirdly, the Skyway area formed an architectural and artistic whole with the build environment. The architecture is that of a south German town at an alpine foothill. I don't mean the dismal out-of-use rundown Skyway station slash stroller parking area, but the real thing, as it once was.
The skyway and hill are as indispensable to the architecture as the RoA is to the seashore village architecture of the north of LS, and the tropical jungle of the JC and Treehouse is for the Tiki architecture. The effect is so subtle and natural that one is mostly unaware of it. But to see how it works, just imagine the tropical JC jungle next to Liberty Square. The jarring thematic mismatch hurts the senses. Thematic unity is no mere academic pursuit.

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The functioning Skyway allowed you the view from the other side, from the hill onto the town in which you disembarked. This makes a huge psychological difference in how one appreciates and experiences the area.
65sork.jpg

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Meanwhile, Rapunzel's village and tower are completely random, as random as Merida's Scottish castle or Elsa's frozen world would be here. They do not communicate with their environment, except in a negative way by infringing upon the stylistic unity. The Tangled Toilets are a cartoon environment in a human space, like the spinner in AL. An intrusive area that disrupts the theme of three lands.
 

PeterAlt

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...does anyone wanna discuss the horrific smog and it's impact on SDL? Because I think...it's worth discussing.

Disney and more posted that construction is halted due to the bad smog. How on earth is this park going to operate with this factor?
They could put a dome over it and make it environmentally controlled like kind of what Walt wanted with the original EPCOT...
 

JimboJones123

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The area is Alpine themed. Thematic unity is the name of the game, the reason why Disney Parks can transport you to a different time and place.

[intermezzo]
The Alpine theme was done so well it. ould even double as north Italy. Bet few of you have ever seen this one, 'Pinocchioland' at the MK:

fan228944LARGE.jpg


[/intermezzo]

Speaking of intermezzo, that is exactly one funtion of this area. A small. rea that serves as a transition between two other areas. FL crosses over into LS in a fluid transition of style and mood. Before the MK became a potpourri of ill-matching tiny toontowns, one could walk from MS to AL to CPlaza to FrL to LS to FL without ever being conscious of crossing over into a different land. Nowhere was this effect done more perfectly than crossing from FL to LS.

Secondly, the area also served to fade off FL into unlimited space. The Skyway hillside functioned as the Jungle Cruise, or the RoI, or even Space Mountain and Pirates. As an area of unlimited space, making the MK feel endless, fading off into the horizonless distance. Like so:
fantasyland_skyway.png




Thirdly, the Skyway area formed an architectural and artistic whole with the build environment. The architecture is that of a south German town at an alpine foothill. I don't mean the dismal out-of-use rundown Skyway station slash stroller parking area, but the real thing, as it once was.
The skyway and hill are as indispensable to the architecture as the RoA is to the seashore village architecture of the north of LS, and the tropical jungle of the JC and Treehouse is for the Tiki architecture. The effect is so subtle and natural that one is mostly unaware of it. But to see how it works, just imagine the tropical JC jungle next to Liberty Square. The jarring thematic mismatch hurts the senses. Thematic unity is no mere academic pursuit.

oa6xbm.jpg


The functioning Skyway allowed you the view from the other side, from the hill onto the town in which you disembarked. This makes a huge psychological difference in how one appreciates and experiences the area.
65sork.jpg

14257qt.jpg




Meanwhile, Rapunzel's village and tower are completely random, as random as Merida's Scottish castle or Elsa's frozen world would be here. They do not communicate with their environment, except in a negative way by infringing upon the stylistic unity. The Tangled Toilets are a cartoon environment in a human space, like the spinner in AL. An intrusive area that disrupts the theme of three lands.
So generic Alpine Village > Modern Disney Movie

I do not believe I will ever understand this fixation on ever corner of a theme park needing to be a land reveal. No land can see another land. How dare Walt approve a Matterhorn that can be seen from most of the park!!!!

Are adults that visit these theme parks so arrested in their development that they cannot handle that the world of Winnie the Pooh would exist near Alice's Teacups without a magical land transition between? How about the speedway next to it??? YIKES? Oh man, remember when Captain Nemo threatened bombing the Dumbo ride?

Find me a 6 year old (well one that has not been coached by self important childparents) that notices, or more importantly obcessess over the faux illusion of land transition?
 
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JimboJones123

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The area is Alpine themed. Thematic unity is the name of the game, the reason why Disney Parks can transport you to a different time and place.

[intermezzo]
The Alpine theme was done so well it could even double as north Italy. Bet few of you have ever seen this one, 'Pinocchioland' at the MK:

fan228944LARGE.jpg


[/intermezzo]

Speaking of intermezzo, that is exactly one funtion of this area. A small area that serves as a transition between two other areas. FL crosses over into LS in a fluid transition of style and mood. Before the MK became a potpourri of ill-matching tiny toontowns, one could walk from MS to AL to CPlaza to FrL to LS to FL without ever being conscious of crossing over into a different land. Nowhere was this effect done more perfectly than crossing from FL to LS.

Secondly, the area also served to fade off FL into unlimited space. The Skyway hillside functioned as the Jungle Cruise, or the RoI, or even Space Mountain and Pirates. As an area of unlimited space, making the MK feel endless, fading off into the horizonless distance. Like so:
fantasyland_skyway.png




Thirdly, the Skyway area formed an architectural and artistic whole with the build environment. The architecture is that of a south German town at an alpine foothill. I don't mean the dismal out-of-use rundown Skyway station slash stroller parking area, but the real thing, as it once was.
The skyway and hill are as indispensable to the architecture as the RoA is to the seashore village architecture of the north of LS, and the tropical jungle of the JC and Treehouse is for the Tiki architecture. The effect is so subtle and natural that one is mostly unaware of it. But to see how it works, just imagine the tropical JC jungle next to Liberty Square. The jarring thematic mismatch hurts the senses. Thematic unity is no mere academic pursuit.

oa6xbm.jpg


The functioning Skyway allowed you the view from the other side, from the hill onto the town in which you disembarked. This makes a huge psychological difference in how one appreciates and experiences the area.
65sork.jpg

14257qt.jpg




Meanwhile, Rapunzel's village and tower are completely random, as random as Merida's Scottish castle or Elsa's frozen world would be here. They do not communicate with their environment, except in a negative way by infringing upon the stylistic unity. The Tangled Toilets are a cartoon environment in a human space, like the spinner in AL. An intrusive area that disrupts the theme of three lands.
Oh, and Northern Italy???
 
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