The Sorcerer's Apprentice, Season 7: Fantasmic Journeys - Hype Thread

Brer Panther

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Question of the Day
What attraction at any park (Disney or otherwise) just needs to go? Not refurbed, not rethemed, just gone.​
Does Princess Fairytale Hall count? I would love for that space to hold a dark ride again. Magic Kingdom's Fantasyland needs more dark rides...

You have probably never even heard of this ride, it's at Six Flags Fiesta Texas (San Antonio). It's called Pirates of the Deep Sea, and it's a shooter ride... I hate it. They literally used snippets from the PotC soundtrack, which was later removed. Super low-budget low-quality ride. Reused props from it's predecessor, Scooby-Doo ghost blasters. I hope this attraction burns down 😂



Also what looks to be a reused Chuck E Cheese AA at 0:56

That pirate animatronic is creepy...
 

tcool123

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Plenty of good options already mentioned, but I especially want to see Tomorrowland Speedway get demolished. You could smell the fumes like a mile away when you pass by it and there's nothing about it that truly fits the Tomorrowland theme.

Run that attraction into the ground, and free up some valuable park real estate.
Hear me out:

Tomorrowland Speedway is moved to the new Epcot, and goes in front of Test Track. Have the cars be redesigned to be Chevrolets, maybe an electric/hybrid model if they have it? Have it run around a futuristic looking garden with a couple of cars on display and some advertisements to really entice that sponsorship.

It'll free the space for further Tomorrowland/Fantasyland expansion, but will still keep the iconic attraction at Epcot for all those fans of it. The move to Epcot will also allow for a family friendly ride in a portion of the park that currently is very thrill heavy while also adding some much needed scenery and funding to the aging attraction.

Plus it'll expand the travel/vehicle/motion theme that World of Motion and Test Track promoted, and will add even more kinetic energy to Epcot.
 

DashHaber

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Hear me out:

Tomorrowland Speedway is moved to the new Epcot, and goes in front of Test Track. Have the cars be redesigned to be Chevrolets, maybe an electric/hybrid model if they have it? Have it run around a futuristic looking garden with a couple of cars on display and some advertisements to really entice that sponsorship.

It'll free the space for further Tomorrowland/Fantasyland expansion, but will still keep the iconic attraction at Epcot for all those fans of it. The move to Epcot will also allow for a family friendly ride in a portion of the park that currently is very thrill heavy while also adding some much needed scenery and funding to the aging attraction.

Plus it'll expand the travel/vehicle/motion theme that World of Motion and Test Track promoted, and will add even more kinetic energy to Epcot.
...Okay, now that is a clever solution to that problem.
 

AceAstro

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Hear me out:

Tomorrowland Speedway is moved to the new Epcot, and goes in front of Test Track. Have the cars be redesigned to be Chevrolets, maybe an electric/hybrid model if they have it? Have it run around a futuristic looking garden with a couple of cars on display and some advertisements to really entice that sponsorship.

It'll free the space for further Tomorrowland/Fantasyland expansion, but will still keep the iconic attraction at Epcot for all those fans of it. The move to Epcot will also allow for a family friendly ride in a portion of the park that currently is very thrill heavy while also adding some much needed scenery and funding to the aging attraction.

Plus it'll expand the travel/vehicle/motion theme that World of Motion and Test Track promoted, and will add even more kinetic energy to Epcot.
Funnily enough, Imagineers thought a similar thing ~22 years ago with Project Gemini!

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Pi on my Cake

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In the Parks
Yes
Yeah I totally get why Tomorrowland Speedway should be removed... it's not very futuristic at all, but for some reason I like it, and I'm not sure what they would do instead... maybe like you said, electric cars, and maybe they could enclose it in some sort of glass dome, add more scenery, make it a little more test tracky. I'm gonna mock up something for this.
Alternatively, make it more Test Tracky!

Cut it from MAgic Kingdom where it is noisy, doesn't really fit with Tomorrow or Fantasy, takes up a lot of space and smells bad.

Then set up the same kind of ride (with electric cars) in Epcot next to Test Track. Possibly with very similar Tron-style theming or maybe more classic Test Track decor. Preferably with an indoor section.

Or woven through a Piston Cup themed Cars Land they could build in Studios. Retheme Rockinrollercoaster, keep the Lightning McQueen Show, add a Piston Cup Raceway version of Radiator Springs Raceway (Same concept, but in a big city with Cars characters and fans instead of rock work), and the new Speedway. I feel the more urban Cars Land would fit in with the aesthetics of that side of the Studios better. Could tie in with ESPN and have a bit about filming commercials with Lightning McQueen to help tie it even stronger to the old Behind the Scenes studio theme of the park while still working with the current "Single IP Land" style of the park. And the new Speedway woven through the new land and the new Racers would give it the kinetic energy that side of the park is missing.
 

Pi on my Cake

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In the Parks
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Alternatively, make it more Test Tracky!

Cut it from MAgic Kingdom where it is noisy, doesn't really fit with Tomorrow or Fantasy, takes up a lot of space and smells bad.

Then set up the same kind of ride (with electric cars) in Epcot next to Test Track. Possibly with very similar Tron-style theming or maybe more classic Test Track decor. Preferably with an indoor section.

Or woven through a Piston Cup themed Cars Land they could build in Studios. Retheme Rockinrollercoaster, keep the Lightning McQueen Show, add a Piston Cup Raceway version of Radiator Springs Raceway (Same concept, but in a big city with Cars characters and fans instead of rock work), and the new Speedway. I feel the more urban Cars Land would fit in with the aesthetics of that side of the Studios better. Could tie in with ESPN and have a bit about filming commercials with Lightning McQueen to help tie it even stronger to the old Behind the Scenes studio theme of the park while still working with the current "Single IP Land" style of the park. And the new Speedway woven through the new land and the new Racers would give it the kinetic energy that side of the park is missing.
Hear me out:

Tomorrowland Speedway is moved to the new Epcot, and goes in front of Test Track. Have the cars be redesigned to be Chevrolets, maybe an electric/hybrid model if they have it? Have it run around a futuristic looking garden with a couple of cars on display and some advertisements to really entice that sponsorship.

It'll free the space for further Tomorrowland/Fantasyland expansion, but will still keep the iconic attraction at Epcot for all those fans of it. The move to Epcot will also allow for a family friendly ride in a portion of the park that currently is very thrill heavy while also adding some much needed scenery and funding to the aging attraction.

Plus it'll expand the travel/vehicle/motion theme that World of Motion and Test Track promoted, and will add even more kinetic energy to Epcot.
This is what I get for not reading the whole thread before commenting lol
 

91JLovesDisney

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Alternatively, make it more Test Tracky!

Cut it from MAgic Kingdom where it is noisy, doesn't really fit with Tomorrow or Fantasy, takes up a lot of space and smells bad.

Then set up the same kind of ride (with electric cars) in Epcot next to Test Track. Possibly with very similar Tron-style theming or maybe more classic Test Track decor. Preferably with an indoor section.

Or woven through a Piston Cup themed Cars Land they could build in Studios. Retheme Rockinrollercoaster, keep the Lightning McQueen Show, add a Piston Cup Raceway version of Radiator Springs Raceway (Same concept, but in a big city with Cars characters and fans instead of rock work), and the new Speedway. I feel the more urban Cars Land would fit in with the aesthetics of that side of the Studios better. Could tie in with ESPN and have a bit about filming commercials with Lightning McQueen to help tie it even stronger to the old Behind the Scenes studio theme of the park while still working with the current "Single IP Land" style of the park. And the new Speedway woven through the new land and the new Racers would give it the kinetic energy that side of the park is missing.
I've got it.

Rip out Splash, just copy paste the ride there, and theme it around Black Panther. Problem solved, thank me later Chapek!
 

MickeyWaffleCo.

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In the Parks
No
Question of the Day
What attraction at any park (Disney or otherwise) just needs to go? Not refurbed, not rethemed, just gone.​
Hmmmm... it’d probably be Autopia for me. (For similar reasons to Tomorrowland Speedway)

For me, it’s Tomorrowland Speedway at Magic Kingdom. Absolute waste of a massive plot of land. The lines are long, the gas fumes are awful, and you need a chiropractor after getting off it because the damned things don’t drive straight.
I agree with this, and I also think that Autopia is outdated as well. (See below)

I don’t really wanna get rid of any attraction, there are plenty that I’d like to retheme to be sure, but if I HAD to remove one, it would be the Nemo submarine voyage.
Ooooh yes. Submarine voyage was futuristic when it opened, but it seems very outdated now. The retheme to Nemo just killed it. It doesn’t fit in Tomorrowland at all anymore. It would be amazing if the submarine lagoon and (as much as I hate to say it, because it’s very much a classic) Autopia could disappear to make room for some actual new Tomorrowland attractions, and not just rethemes.

Tarzan’s Treehouse at Disneyland. It is very old and takes up too much space in an already crowded Adventureland. Just last year one of the wooden plates broke and fell. Luckily nobody was hurt, but it goes to show how old it is.
Tarzan’s Treehouse should definitely go away. Even if there’s not enough space to add a whole new attraction, I just don’t think the Treehouse serves any real purpose anymore, in addition to the safety issues.


Astro Orbiter at Disneyland, it crowds up a lot of the entrance even after entrance refurbs to make it more open. Just replace it with a smaller version, bonus points if they put it back on the roof but I wouldn't mind a replacement being in a different spot or even the same one as long as it's smaller.
  • Another Disneyland Tomorrowland removal I would do is the carousel theater, yes it is a legacy location but there's so much space there to put something better than the sad empty state that is currently there.
I dunno if this is just my unpopular opinion, but I like the Astro Orbiter! I agree that the theater needs to go, though. It’s just been wasted space for years now.

The Fantasyland Theater at Disneyland. Either replace it with a new indoor theater or use it as space for a new Fantasyland ride (like a Marry Poppins dark ride for example).
Yeah, if the theater could go we’d get a whole lot more Fantasyland space.
 

Tegan pilots a chicken

Sharpie Queen 💜
Premium Member
Question of the Day
What attraction at any park (Disney or otherwise) just needs to go? Not refurbed, not rethemed, just gone.​
Okay wait no. I got one. Buzz Lightyear at Magic Kingdom. Midway Mania is basically a better version of this. I wish we could get Dreamflight back, but obviously jet travel isn’t exactly “futuristic” anymore.
 

TwilightZone

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I dunno if this is just my unpopular opinion, but I like the Astro Orbiter! I agree that the theater needs to go, though. It’s just been wasted space for years now.
I like it too, but it does crowd up a lot of space, thus why I'm fine with the idea of a smaller version taking that space or another space. The design is probably my favorite of the tomorrowland rocket rides, but its waaaayyyy too big haha. While this does break the rules a bit, moving it to some other park or location in Tomorrowland could be a cool idea. Maybe as a """replacement""" for the carousel space.
 

TwilightZone

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Okay wait no. I got one. Buzz Lightyear at Magic Kingdom. Midway Mania is basically a better version of this. I wish we could get Dreamflight back, but obviously jet travel isn’t exactly “futuristic” anymore.
Dreamflight with UFOs could be a cool idea, that way it's still futuristic while still bringing the charm of the original ride. Plus the advantage of the longer setpieces of Buzz and you can have a really cool time travel-UFO dark ride.
 

91JLovesDisney

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Dreamflight with UFOs could be a cool idea, that way it's still futuristic while still bringing the charm of the original ride. Plus the advantage of the longer setpieces of Buzz and you can have a really cool time travel-UFO dark ride.
Thanks for reminding me of my hatred of Buzz - it's a close second to Pirates of the Deep Sea 😂 😂

Oh and Mission Space! How could I forget Horizon's executioner?!
 

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