The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

PiratesMansion

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I actually think it’s a good idea for SeaWorld to move away from animal performances and turn their brand into a sea-themed ride park with a focus on conservation. I think they just need to commit to it fully and do it better. The Florida park has a good foundation, and is building its reputation as the best coaster park in Orlando. Now they need to fill out the experience with some well-themed family flat rides and more food options.

But, on that note, I really hope the park survives the arrival of Epic Universe.

This is a stretch, but how cool would it be if Universal bought the Orlando park, rebranded and remodeled it as Universal Amazing Oceans and debuted it with a fantastic update of the Jaws ride?
Agreed. The problem now is that there are animals and fairly extreme coasters with very little else or in between.

I also think there has to be a way to make the shows about conservation without them being as boring as tar or feeling like they're apologizing for doing them.
 

mickEblu

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The atmospheric cave music was added in the 2006 refurb. Before this change it was the same music as the later part (pirate sleeping/headboard area) playing after the first drop.

Right. I what was wondering if the POTC theme song has always played after the first drop / if there has always been such a difference in tone between the music after the first and second drop. I couldn’t remember what music existed immediately after the second drop pre 2006.
 

mickEblu

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I enjoy both versions of the cavern music, but if they ever get rid of the movie overlay and steer it more toward “classic” POC (as part of some possible future promotion where they truly celebrate their history), I hope the “Scare Me” track is restored in that section. Those original compositions are as much a part of POC for me as the original voices and the ride’s unique hits-you-the-moment-you-enter smell.

“Scare me” track?
 

CaptinEO

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Right. I what was wondering if the POTC theme song has always played after the first drop / if there has always been such a difference in tone between the music after the first and second drop. I couldn’t remember what music existed immediately after the second drop pre 2006.
Here is the original attraction audio which recreates a ride through, which was sold on a soundtrack CD at the parks up until a couple years ago:



Hopefully this helps.

Here is the CD

https://www.amazon.com/Pirates-Caribbean-Disney/dp/B000UFUXC0/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?keywords=pirates+of+the+caribbean+soundtrack+cd&qid=1697907495&sr=8-13
 

PiratesMansion

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Here is the original attraction audio which recreates a ride through, which was sold on a soundtrack CD at the parks up until a couple years ago:



Hopefully this helps.

Here is the CD

https://www.amazon.com/Pirates-Caribbean-Disney/dp/B000UFUXC0/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?keywords=pirates+of+the+caribbean+soundtrack+cd&qid=1697907495&sr=8-13

It was on iTunes at one point, not sure if that's still the case. It contains an entire ride through, many individual audio tracks, and I believe a pre-ride-opening promotional announcement.
 

D.Silentu

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Right. I what was wondering if the POTC theme song has always played after the first drop / if there has always been such a difference in tone between the music after the first and second drop.
Quick side note, following the 2006 refurbishment the "A Pirate's Life For Me" that plays at the landing of the first drop was changed to an instrumental version. I can't recall how long it was before they restored the lyricized song, but its stay seemed brief.
 

TP2000

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I feel a tad guilty for making fun of Sea World yesterday. Not that they don't deserve it for how sloppy and dirty their theme park operations have become lately, but because they also do some good work for animal preservation and care.

Here's the latest example of how Sea World cares for California sea life and marine mammals...

 

Consumer

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Went down to Shenandoah National Park to enjoy the beautiful Autumn leaves.
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TP2000

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Did you know that California is about overdue for a massive rainstorm and flood that scientists cleverly call the "ARK Storm"???

ARK stands for Atmospheric River 1,000. The last one California had was in the winter of 1862 and it dumped over 10 feet of rain on California over a period of just a few weeks. But there have been bigger ARK Storms in California in the past, every 150 years on average. There was an ARK Storm in 1605 that was twice as strong as the 1862 event. Then there were modest ARK Storms that still devastated the state in 1750 and 1810.

If an ARK Storm hit this winter, Orange County would be inundated by floodwaters that the existing flood control channels and dams were not designed to handle. Disneyland would be underwater for at least a couple weeks.

Can you imagine that mess, especially with all the basement levels Disneyland has?!? The Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean have showroom warehouses that are below ground level, and would fill with a dozen or more feet of water. Those warehouses built beyond the berm were all dug down even further into the Anaheim bedrock.

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What about Small World and Space Mountain? I believe they were all built below the ground level at least in spots. And what did they do for Star Wars Land? I have to believe they have basement levels to that huge complex, right? Soarin' Over California at DCA also comes to mind as a ride that wouldn't fare well in the next ARK Storm.

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mickEblu

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Did you know that California is about overdue for a massive rainstorm and flood that scientists cleverly call the "ARK Storm"???

ARK stands for Atmospheric River 1,000. The last one California had was in the winter of 1862 and it dumped over 10 feet of rain on California over a period of just a few weeks. But there have been bigger ARK Storms in California in the past, every 150 years on average. There was an ARK Storm in 1605 that was twice as strong as the 1862 event. Then there were modest ARK Storms that still devastated the state in 1750 and 1810.

If an ARK Storm hit this winter, Orange County would be inundated by floodwaters that the existing flood control channels and dams were not designed to handle. Disneyland would be underwater for at least a couple weeks.

Can you imagine that mess, especially with all the basement levels Disneyland has?!? The Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean have showroom warehouses that are below ground level, and would fill with a dozen or more feet of water. Those warehouses built beyond the berm were all dug down even further into the Anaheim bedrock.

DL_Slide_July_1962_1B_No27_ATon_UMon_4800DPI.jpg


What about Small World and Space Mountain? I believe they were all built below the ground level at least in spots. And what did they do for Star Wars Land? I have to believe they have basement levels to that huge complex, right? Soarin' Over California at DCA also comes to mind as a ride that wouldn't fare well in the next ARK Storm.

Oregon-Live-arkstorm.png

Oh good lord. What are the nicest states with no natural disasters? I feel like there are at least 30 that are disaster free.
 

TP2000

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Oh good lord. What are the nicest states with no natural disasters? I feel like there are at least 30 that are disaster free.

Utah comes to mind, at least the low-lying southern part of the state. Although any eruption of the active volcanoes in the California Sierras would impact Utah and potentially cover much of Utah in inches of ash.

I was going to say Tennessee, and had typed out some stuff about it, but then I remembered the devastating New Madrid mega-earthquakes near what is now Memphis about 225 years ago.

Um... West Virginia? Vermont if you don't count blizzards and ice?

The current flood control systems in Orange County were mostly put in place after the big flood of 1938 that impacted all of SoCal. Here's downtown Anaheim during that 1938 flood, after SoCal got a year's worth of rain in just three days. But an ARK Storm flood would bring much more rain and for several weeks at a time compared to the rather modest '38 flood. I can't imagine how the huge basements in some of Disneyland's facilities would handle that type of thing.

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I added the red star on this USGS ARK Storm flooding map to signify where Disneyland is.

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mlayton144

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Utah comes to mind, at least the low-lying southern part of the state. Although any eruption of the active volcanoes in the California Sierras would impact Utah and potentially cover much of Utah in inches of ash.

I was going to say Tennessee, and had typed out some stuff about it, but then I remembered the devastating New Madrid mega-earthquakes near what is now Memphis about 225 years ago.

Um... West Virginia? Vermont if you don't count blizzards and ice?

The current flood control systems in Orange County were mostly put in place after the big flood of 1938 that impacted all of SoCal. Here's downtown Anaheim during that 1938 flood, after SoCal got a year's worth of rain in just three days. But an ARK Storm flood would bring much more rain and for several weeks at a time compared to the rather modest '38 flood. I can't imagine how the huge basements in some of Disneyland's facilities would handle that type of thing.

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I added the red star on this USGS ARK Storm flooding map to signify where Disneyland is.

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There is a joke out there somewhere about New Orleans square , but it would be tasteless
 

Parteecia

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Did you know that California is about overdue for a massive rainstorm and flood that scientists cleverly call the "ARK Storm"???

ARK stands for Atmospheric River 1,000. The last one California had was in the winter of 1862 and it dumped over 10 feet of rain on California over a period of just a few weeks. But there have been bigger ARK Storms in California in the past, every 150 years on average. There was an ARK Storm in 1605 that was twice as strong as the 1862 event. Then there were modest ARK Storms that still devastated the state in 1750 and 1810.

If an ARK Storm hit this winter, Orange County would be inundated by floodwaters that the existing flood control channels and dams were not designed to handle. Disneyland would be underwater for at least a couple weeks.

Can you imagine that mess, especially with all the basement levels Disneyland has?!? The Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean have showroom warehouses that are below ground level, and would fill with a dozen or more feet of water. Those warehouses built beyond the berm were all dug down even further into the Anaheim bedrock.

DL_Slide_July_1962_1B_No27_ATon_UMon_4800DPI.jpg


What about Small World and Space Mountain? I believe they were all built below the ground level at least in spots. And what did they do for Star Wars Land? I have to believe they have basement levels to that huge complex, right? Soarin' Over California at DCA also comes to mind as a ride that wouldn't fare well in the next ARK Storm.

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Is that why you moved?
 

mickEblu

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Utah comes to mind, at least the low-lying southern part of the state. Although any eruption of the active volcanoes in the California Sierras would impact Utah and potentially cover much of Utah in inches of ash.

I was going to say Tennessee, and had typed out some stuff about it, but then I remembered the devastating New Madrid mega-earthquakes near what is now Memphis about 225 years ago.

Um... West Virginia? Vermont if you don't count blizzards and ice?

The current flood control systems in Orange County were mostly put in place after the big flood of 1938 that impacted all of SoCal. Here's downtown Anaheim during that 1938 flood, after SoCal got a year's worth of rain in just three days. But an ARK Storm flood would bring much more rain and for several weeks at a time compared to the rather modest '38 flood. I can't imagine how the huge basements in some of Disneyland's facilities would handle that type of thing.

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I added the red star on this USGS ARK Storm flooding map to signify where Disneyland is.

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How about Montana?
 

CaptinEO

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Quick side note, following the 2006 refurbishment the "A Pirate's Life For Me" that plays at the landing of the first drop was changed to an instrumental version. I can't recall how long it was before they restored the lyricized song, but its stay seemed brief.
Wish there was a comprehensive resource documenting changes to Disney rides. Pirates and Haunted Mansion have had many.
 

TP2000

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Is that why you moved?

No, I moved because of taxes and cost of energy and basic living expenses. I just couldn't put up with it any more.

It just wasn't worth it any longer, and I decided to take my tax dollars elsewhere.

How about Montana?

Not a bad option. Until the Yellowstone Super Volcano erupts. But that only happens every 600,000 years or so. An Ark Storm comes along in California every 150 years on average. And it's been 162 years since the last one. Tick, tick, tick....

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I love the "Oooooooh... Aaaahhhh..." music on this government film about ARK Storms. Your tax dollars at work! 🤣

 
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PiratesMansion

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Back from my trip. I'm really glad that I made the audible to rest on Tuesday and have my last day be Saturday, because I clearly needed the rest, and it then allowed me to go to DL yesterday to end my trip on a high, rather than end it by doing nothing or by going to another night of Scary Farm (which I very much enjoyed, but didn't need to spend any more time at). While the park was crowded yesterday (as it was the whole time I visited-the contrast between the size of the crowds at the DLR parks and, say, Knott's on Tues & Thurs was stark), strategic LL booking and modifying allowed me to do everything I wanted to (well, almost-never ended up making it on the Monorail in the Fall after missing it in the summer because of its refurb) without breaking a sweat.

A few maintenance hiccups and some smaller portions aside (looking at you, cake slices!), I had a wonderful time and look forward to my inevitable return to Disneyland next year!
 

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