The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I honestly think this will not end well. And I think this stuff is just going to create more division than anything. If my son asks I would say something along the lines of “he’s not well”, “he’s confused” or “he thinks he’s a girl.” I’m definitely not saying “now Hunny it’s normal, guys can wear dresses…”
Is this what you would tell them about the Hercules meet and greet?
 

BubbaisSleep

Well-Known Member
Stop. Seriously you sound ignorant. I thought you were more intelligent.
Genuine question? Can you argue the fact that what people consider man or woman has changed a lot over the years. There are cultures that have totally different views of man and woman than us, are they ignorant?

There was even a time when men were totally in charge & humans had to be worthy to wear makeup, heels & certain fashion. It’s a fact, it’s in history books. So I don’t get where the ignorance comment comes from genuinely. Your viewpoint in life isn’t a fixed perspective, things will change before and after we all die. It’s out of my control. So I understand why it may be a big deal to some people born in this social setting, but change is a part of human evolution.


I did four simple google searches below to back my claims. Again, totally get if you just don’t want to be nice about this but you can’t claim others are ignorant when it’s quite the opposite.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_6015.jpeg
    IMG_6015.jpeg
    81.3 KB · Views: 62
  • IMG_6016.jpeg
    IMG_6016.jpeg
    87.4 KB · Views: 59
  • IMG_6017.jpeg
    IMG_6017.jpeg
    247.4 KB · Views: 61
  • IMG_6018.jpeg
    IMG_6018.jpeg
    88 KB · Views: 53
Last edited:

wdrive

Well-Known Member
I mean if a male can portray a Disney Princess believably, I’m talking looks, voice, mannerisms and everything, does it matter that he has a wiener under the dress? All the Princesses are acting either way

Anastasia, Drizella and Lady Tremaine were portrayed by guys way back at Disneyland. Maleficent in Fantasmic is usually a guy too as far as I’m aware. Where’s the line here?
 
Last edited:

Parteecia

Well-Known Member
Genuine question? Can you argue the fact that what people consider man or woman has changed a lot over the years. There are cultures that have totally different views of man and woman than us, are they ignorant?

There was even a time when men were totally in charge & humans had to be worthy to wear makeup, heels & certain fashion. It’s a fact, it’s in history books. So I don’t get where the ignorance comment comes from genuinely. Your viewpoint in life isn’t a fixed perspective, things will change before and after we all die. It’s out of my control. So I understand why it may be a big deal to some people born in this social setting, but change is a part of human evolution.


I did three simple google searches below to back my claims. Again, totally get if you just don’t want to be nice about this but you can’t claim others are ignorant when it’s quite the opposite.
I do love the portraits of King Louis XIV.
Louis_XIV_of_France.jpg
 
Last edited:

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I mean if a male can portray a Disney Princess believably, I’m talking looks, voice, mannerisms and everything, does it matter that he has a wiener under the dress? All the Princesses are acting either way

Well you’re not going to fool me. Perhaps if it was 100% unnoticeable. The one from DLP I saw in a video (if real) was pretty obviously a man.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
If those guys from Saudi Arabia saw the fairy helper from the video yesterday they would be disgusted. Why do you suppose that is if it’s all the same? Because they’re bIGotS? Is there perhaps not some major cultural differences at play here that lazyboy seems to gloss over.
Since when is highlighting the same as glossing over? You’re the one saying men only want to wear a dress if they are mentally ill and that there is no history of men wearing dresses. This is not true. You clearly know this is not true. So why did you make such claims? Because you’re trying to rationalize denigrating some people?
 

wdrive

Well-Known Member
Well you’re not going to fool me. Perhaps if it was 100% unnoticeable. The one from DLP I saw in a video (if real) was pretty obviously a man.

Do you have the video?

How do you know you wouldn’t be fooled? You say yourself if it was 100% unnoticeable, what if it was?

Are you even fooled meeting a Princess now? I hate to break it to you but that’s not really Cinderella in your photos
 
Last edited:

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Do you have the video?

How do you know you wouldn’t be fooled? You say yourself if it was 100% unnoticeable, what if it was?

No I don’t but I’m about 90% sure it was real. Came up on my wife’s Instagram feed or something like that.

I have a great eye. It’s not happening.
 

BubbaisSleep

Well-Known Member
If those guys from Saudi Arabia saw the fairy helper from the video yesterday they would be disgusted. Why do you suppose that is if it’s all the same? Because they’re bIGotS? Is there perhaps not some major cultural differences at play here that lazyboy seems to gloss over.
Well you’re not understanding me but I honestly don’t think you want to which is okay. I answered your question already in the posts & those guys in Saudi Arabia are just victim to the same narrow viewpoints deceived from a bigoted leader. The hatred even goes beyond this LGBTQIA+ topic and towards other cultures which makes me sad. How can you argue against hate when you’ve been taught that your god or gods want you to hate people different from you in a book from 1000s of years ago. We can’t win with logic and humanity in those situations so I’ll have to digress & wish the best. Also to flip the switch, many people have bigoted views of people from Saudi Arabia which I hate too. I don’t prescribe myself to that kind of energy and I respect all cultures. There are so much perspectives here, but some make it clear that only theirs is the right way. You agree with those guys from Saudi Arabia, but many people don’t too. So who’s right? Or maybe no one is.

Personally my religion says treat everyone with kindness, we’re all children of a higher power. Crazy part is, I don’t put down other people, send death threats or try to get someone fired when they don’t agree with my interpretation of life. I’ll actually fight for another persons right to be religious! Just not bigoted.
 
Last edited:

wdrive

Well-Known Member
No I don’t but I’m about 90% sure it was real. Came up on my wife’s Instagram feed or something like that.

I have a great eye. It’s not happening.

Except if they were really good and you wouldn’t notice. You cannot say that there is not one man in this world who cannot speak as a specific princess and can also look and move like one while fully dressed up. If you can guarantee me that I’m asking you for lottery numbers.
I’m 99% sure you’re mistaken on the video
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Except if they were really good and you wouldn’t notice. You cannot say that there is not one man in this world who cannot speak as a specific princess and can also look and move like one while fully dressed up. If you can guarantee me that I’m asking you for lottery numbers.
I’m 99% sure you’re mistaken on the video

Ok so we’re going to spend time talking about the two dudes in the entire world who might fool me? What’s the point? And I stress “might.”
 

wdrive

Well-Known Member
Ok so we’re going to spend time talking about the two dudes in the entire world who might fool me? What’s the point? And I stress “might.”

If you want to we can, my private messages are open if you want to continue the discussion there.
I already believe you’ve been fooled into thinking a female performer is actually a male so I don’t have much faith in your ability to say a male performer is actually female.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
If you want to we can, my private messages are open if you want to continue the discussion there.
I already believe you’ve been fooled into thinking a female performer is actually a male so I don’t have much faith in your ability to say a male performer is actually female.

And what makes you believe that I was fooled?
 

Register on WDWMAGIC. This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.

Back
Top Bottom