The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

SuddenStorm

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I would argue that increasing the pool of potential members does not necessarily lower the bar. The "threshold of entry" is still getting the job, not who is allowed to apply. What's changed is which attributes are more important.

If appearance is your priority, as in the past, you may end up with a lower bar for friendliness and helpfulness.

If customer service is your priority you may end up with a lower bar for traditional appearance.

The false assumption seems to be that if their appearance is to your liking then they will also be better at customer service.

The standard used to be both a higher standard of appearance, and a higher standard of service. Both were required, even if taken individually the two do not impact each other.

Now, the park has both lower standards for grooming (you'd be hard pressed to convince anyone the neckbeards present in the park now are somehow more professional than a clean shaven look or a well trimmed beard), and lower standards for service.

Disney didn't say Hey, y'all can have tattoos now, but you're gonna have to make sure your service is top notch. They said Hey, y'all can have tattoos now and as long as the rides run some of the time and something that resembles food ends up on their plate, who cares how y'all deliver service.
 

BasiltheBatLord

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My issue: Disneyland's theme has always been classic Americana. It was an America that was part-fantasy and never truly existed in reality (even Walt himself would admit that), but the idea was that Disneyland thrived off of the values of squeaky clean American ideals. Alcohol, tattoos and men in skirts don't fit those ideals. Some people don't like that and say it's out of date or old fashioned. Fine, but the point is it contravenes what Disneyland has always been about and so to change it is some kind of destruction of those values.
 

Californian Elitist

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Someone's gender has zero impact on their quality as a Jungle Cruise Skipper.

I have to imagine it wouldn't go over well if someone said female skippers were worse than male skippers.
I simply said the female skippers tend to be funnier and are better at delivering the jokes. Obviously, this is based on my personal experiences and is completely subjective. I never insinuated that having a womb and uterus for sure determines the quality of a Disneyland skipper. You made that up.

If someone finds male skippers funnier and better at the job, that’s their opinion. What exactly wouldn’t go over well?
 

TP2000

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Originally only male Jungle Cruise skippers were allowed. When it was opened up to women, was that lowering the bar?

Good question. I don't think so. That all happened at the same time (roughly) that boys showed up on StorybookLand and at CircleVision and girls showed up on Jungle Cruise and Canoes and Sailing Ship Columbia.

It was one of those things where if the girl could make jokes and had good timing/patter, it didn't matter that she was a girl doing the Jungle Cruise jokes. Her performance mattered more.

Some ladies can pull off a Canoe spiel and act just fine, while some can't. Similarly, there are some boys that can't do that job well and would be better off washing dishes or selling t-shirts.

What's interesting is that the entire concept of "Casting" seems to have been thrown out with the bathwater. Now it's just about filling shifts and putting warm bodies in shifts. And it shows.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
I simply said the female skippers tend to be funnier and are better at delivering the jokes. Obviously, this is based on my personal experiences and is completely subjective. I never insinuated that having a womb and uterus for sure determines the quality of a Disneyland skipper. You made that up.

If someone finds male skippers funnier and better at the job, that’s their opinion. What exactly wouldn’t go over well?

For 50 years, I have thought the female comediennes on Saturday Night Live were the funniest cast members on that show. From Jane Curtin and Gilda Radner, to Molly Shannon, to Kristen Wiig, to Aidy Bryant, the women always have made me laugh the hardest and the longest.

As for Jungle Cruise? I honestly couldn't tell you who my favorite skipper has been. Some have been great, some have been dreadful, some are just phoning it in until their lunch break. It all becomes a mish-mash of blabbering into that microphone for me, and I just look at the robot animals and smile weakly.

But for real comediennes, the ladies have always been the funniest people to me. The SNL ladies, Madeline Kahn, Catherine O'hara, Jane Lynch, Jennifer Coolidge, Parker Posey, etc., etc. Women are just funnier for me, especially when they aren't yelling into a cheap microphone over the trumpets of robot elephants and you can actually understand them. 🤣
 

No Name

Well-Known Member
Looks like California will have one less baseball team in a couple of years with the Oakland A's buying a stadium in Las Vegas. A great move for Vegas and honestly a great move for A's fans (all five of them). The Oakland Colosseum is an embarrassment of a ballpark and ought to be demolished.
I agree it’s good for the As and good for Vegas, but I kind of feel bad for the folks in Oakland are just having a professional sports team exodus.
 

Californian Elitist

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For 50 years, I have thought the female comediennes on Saturday Night Live were the funniest cast members on that show. From Jane Curtin and Gilda Radner, to Molly Shannon, to Kristen Wiig, to Aidy Bryant, the women always have made me laugh the hardest and the longest.

As for Jungle Cruise? I honestly couldn't tell you who my favorite skipper has been. Some have been great, some have been dreadful, some are just phoning it in until their lunch break. It all becomes a mish-mash of blabbering into that microphone for me, and I just look at the robot animals and smile weakly.

But for real comediennes, the ladies have always been the funniest people to me. The SNL ladies, Madeline Kahn, Catherine O'hara, Jane Lynch, Jennifer Coolidge, Parker Posey, etc., etc. Women are just funnier for me, especially when they aren't yelling into a cheap microphone over the trumpets of robot elephants and you can actually understand them. 🤣
I feel the same way. Female comedians are better at making me laugh. And we’re not saying that male comedians are not funny, nor are we saying that one’s comedic talents are based on sex.

I actually don’t have a favorite skipper, but I do remember one where her timing was perfect and the way she sarcastically laughed was very effective. I’ve had some funny male skippers, too.
 

chadwpalm

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2nd fantasmic showing. The dragon is engulfed in flames and if they don’t get it out soon Tom sawyers island will be gone.
 

DrAlice

Well-Known Member
Between Thursday's spicy launch in Starbase and Saturday's spicy dragon in Anaheim, hydraulics have had a bad (explosive?) week. Maybe Disney should take a page out of SpaceX's book and replace the hydraulics in their next Maleficent dragons with electric actuators. :)

(This was really just a ploy to give a shout out to my Disney nerd/Space nerd crossover compatriots. Happy exciting week, y'all!)
 

lazyboy97o

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SpaceX's launch was a successfully failure. It proves a rocket that big can be launched and fly. It shouldn't be a problem to fix the first stage separator that caused the explosion. We learn from failure. I can't wait for their next launch.

However, Disney doesn't seem to learn from failure.
Starship completely destroyed its launchpad, debris from which then destroyed engines, because it didn’t have flame diverters like other launch pads. That was Elon’s hubris, not something that needed to be learned.
 

MoonRakerSCM

Well-Known Member
The goal of that launch was to clear the tower. The vehicle did that and much more. Everything else was additional data collected to improve upon which SpaceX will do. Media and Elon haters going "hur hur, his rocket 'splode" don't know what they're talking about.

Concerning the obliteration of the launch pad itself, it was a known problem that could occur, it did, and SpaceX already has a solution.

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