Phroobar
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I think IASW is really the only place left with real grass. I think the Fantasyland theater doesn't have grass anymore. NOS probably doesn't either.
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Dear Prudence
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Fake grass is actually worse for the environment and it looks literally terrible, but that's modern Disney for you, I guess.
I thought there were a few more areas than that and there probably are but you re right it’s mostly flowers, trees, shrubs etc.
EDIT: the planters outside of Plaza Inn and Jolly Holiday(?) I are still real grass with trees
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SuddenStorm
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Not even Disney's just letting Disneyland be Disneyland these days
Model3 McQueen
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- In the Parks
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The people in charge only see the parks as a money generator and nothing more.
DLR92
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Oh boy…it will get HOT in Toon Town with all that fake grass.
Disney can “save” money on fake grass…but it will make the area unbearable. That will now be drawback plague why Toon Town is always hot. Not enough real vegetation.
If Disney had to change the Mickey floral in front of Main Street station, I wouldn’t mind if they went with Hong Kong did theirs. Disney should get smarter and plant native flora. Native actually save more water than most of drought tolerant plant found in your average nursery.
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SuddenStorm
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Another thought I just had on the 'fake grass' thing-
Disneyland has to have a level of believability in order for the escapism to work. This is part of why I'm opposed to the garish paint schemes they've been repainting everything- if you lean to far into the 'fantasy' aspect of the place it seriously hurts the illusion and makes it harder to suspend disbelief.
Disneyland also had a reputation of being somewhere the whole family- including the grandparents- can go and enjoy. Being able to relax in the hub, or Town Square, or New Orleans and enjoy the beauty of the place and entertainment.
Putting in fake grass adds another layer of artificial in a place that has to ensure there's enough that's real- and it hurts the beauty and pleasantness of the place.
Would a real town square have fake grass? Heck no! So why does Disneyland's?
Disneyland has to have a level of believability in order for the escapism to work. This is part of why I'm opposed to the garish paint schemes they've been repainting everything- if you lean to far into the 'fantasy' aspect of the place it seriously hurts the illusion and makes it harder to suspend disbelief.
Disneyland also had a reputation of being somewhere the whole family- including the grandparents- can go and enjoy. Being able to relax in the hub, or Town Square, or New Orleans and enjoy the beauty of the place and entertainment.
Putting in fake grass adds another layer of artificial in a place that has to ensure there's enough that's real- and it hurts the beauty and pleasantness of the place.
Would a real town square have fake grass? Heck no! So why does Disneyland's?
Phroobar
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Our high schools have artificial grass in front. Our city hall is designed with drought tolerant plants. No grass. Our baseball and soccer fields are all artificial grass. If there was a real town square like Disneyland's in southern California or Nevada/New Mexico/Arizona that had real grass, their elected officials would be run out on a rail by the environmentists. Besides, the cities are not the ones that use the majority of the water. They use a tiny percent compared to farming. That is where a large percentage goes.
As for Toon Town, I believe you are suppose to walk on the artificial grass since that is where the "play" tree is located. It also makes for more queue space.
Disney if you’re listening… hire this guy.
SuddenStorm
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Let me rephrase- would a turn of the century Town Square, like the one depicted in Disneyland, have fake grass?
Phroobar
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A turn of the century town square wouldn't have artificial grass because it wasn't invented yet.
A turn of the century town square in a drought in California would leave their grass to die.
SuddenStorm
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Well yeah, that's the point. So Disneyland's shouldn't have fake grass.
So they should let the Mickey Floral and every other planter in the resort die for the sake of the drought?
Now it just seems like you're being intentionally obtuse. Is the fake grass the most egregious thing Disney's done? Is it going to be the reason anyone stops going to Disneyland? Of course not- I just don't think it's a step in the right direction for Town Square.
lazyboy97o
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Letting the grass die is the answer to your question. You’re now calling it obtuse because it is not the answer you wanted. An actual small town of the time might not have had grass at all. Native elements, easier and cheaper to get a hold of, also would have been likely. There’s a reason the estates of the wealthy with their lawns and flora shipped in to places became tourist attractions.
Themed entertainment is an exercise in artifice and illusion. It’s romantic image making, not recreation.
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Quite a few price increases in dining across the resort - here are some examples.
"Dining locations across the Disneyland Resort, from quick service locations to popcorn and churro stands, are increasing their prices, substantially in some cases.
Take for example a few items from Award Wieners at Disney California Adventure:
The Unbirthday Mickey Ear Hot Bowl with Peaches and Cream Funnel Cake Fries has increased from $15.99 to $17.19.
An All-Beef Hot Dog jumps 80 cents from $8.99 to $9.79, as does the Uptown Chili Dog, from $9.99 to $10.79
Over at Flo’s V8 Cafe, entrees like the Cobb Deville salad and the Ramone’s Low and Slow Club are increasing by $1.00, jumping from $10.99 to $11.99 and $11.99 to $12.99 respectively.
Skewers at Bengal Barbecue in Disneyland Park have seen an increase of 50 cents across the board.
These are only a handful of examples, but prices on food across the Disneyland Resort are on the rise, jumping at least 30 cents on most items, with some rising more than $1.00 on a single item.
At popcorn carts, souvenir and premium bucket prices are jumping from $11.00 to $12.25 and $17.00 to $18.25 respectively.
Bottled beverages at carts around the parks are seeing a $0.50 increase, jumping from $4.75 to $5.25 for assorted Coca-Cola beverages and Vitamin Water, $4.25 to $4.75 for Dasani.
Bottled beverages aren’t the only increase, as fountain drinks across the Disneyland Resort have increased, jumping from $4.29 to $4.59 for regular and $4.99 to $5.29 for a large at locations across property."
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"Dining locations across the Disneyland Resort, from quick service locations to popcorn and churro stands, are increasing their prices, substantially in some cases.
Take for example a few items from Award Wieners at Disney California Adventure:
The Unbirthday Mickey Ear Hot Bowl with Peaches and Cream Funnel Cake Fries has increased from $15.99 to $17.19.
An All-Beef Hot Dog jumps 80 cents from $8.99 to $9.79, as does the Uptown Chili Dog, from $9.99 to $10.79
Over at Flo’s V8 Cafe, entrees like the Cobb Deville salad and the Ramone’s Low and Slow Club are increasing by $1.00, jumping from $10.99 to $11.99 and $11.99 to $12.99 respectively.
Skewers at Bengal Barbecue in Disneyland Park have seen an increase of 50 cents across the board.
These are only a handful of examples, but prices on food across the Disneyland Resort are on the rise, jumping at least 30 cents on most items, with some rising more than $1.00 on a single item.
At popcorn carts, souvenir and premium bucket prices are jumping from $11.00 to $12.25 and $17.00 to $18.25 respectively.
Bottled beverages at carts around the parks are seeing a $0.50 increase, jumping from $4.75 to $5.25 for assorted Coca-Cola beverages and Vitamin Water, $4.25 to $4.75 for Dasani.
Bottled beverages aren’t the only increase, as fountain drinks across the Disneyland Resort have increased, jumping from $4.29 to $4.59 for regular and $4.99 to $5.29 for a large at locations across property."
Prices Increase on Drinks, Quick Service Menu Items at Disneyland Resort, Select Treats at Walt Disney World
On the heels of the announcement of Magic Key Renewals, we’ve begun to notice that prices at dining locations throughout the Disneyland Resort are starting to increase. What’s Happening: Dining locations across the Disneyland Resort, from quick service locations to popcorn and chur
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Phroobar
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smooch
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Lake Tahoe is gorgeous and I hope you can make it there one day, my family has a cabin up there in the California side and it is gorgeous year round. If you prefer going to the beach, go during summer if possible, but if you enjoy the snow or want to experience it if you haven't then Tahoe in winter has plenty to do.
I haven't experienced any break-ins personally while visiting SF, and I only know 1 person who has had their car broken into. To be fair, I only ever park in parking garages / parking lots and never directly on the street, which I know isn't a guarantee for your car's safety in any way, but just my experience. That said, every time I do go down to SF I am always nervous on the walk back to my car to see if it has been broken into. For reference, I have driven down in an old 06 CR-V and my 2017 Audi A4 and neither have been broken in to, and my friend has driven down with me in a Subaru WRX, Honda Civic, and an older BMW and we never had any issues.
I do agree to be careful about driving to SF, but I wouldn't saying 100% for fact not to bring your car. There is a park near Haight Street where my friend and I park when exploring the area and have never had any issues there. There is a parking lot we usually park at there, but if it's full there's street parking but all the streets are within the larger park area and not on the city streets so there's not a lot of foot traffic around your car. If you have a really nice car I would be wary, even if you have an old beat up car I would still be wary, but if you don't have any other way of getting into the city (not wanting to use public transportation / etc.) then I would still recommend you visit SF but just try to be careful and park off the street.
Consumer
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I'll never understand how Na'vi River Journey got greenlit. It's a lot of beautiful set designing and an amazing animatronic but that's it. There's no narrative, no danger. It's like if they made the bayou from Pirates of the Caribbean into its own ride. It feels like it should be leading somewhere but ultimately goes nowhere.
Phroobar
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Heimlich's Chew Chew Train never goes anywhere either and they greenlit that. It feels like it should go into a show building but just ends in burping.
DLR92
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Visit Sequoia soon, in our lifetime those Giant Sequoia will likely become extinct. There been bad wild fires burning the area. The drought has shown to have stressed them out long term.
I don’t think every attraction need a lot of intensity of plot. I thought about simple giant crystals formation cave walkthrough for DCA.