The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

Californian Elitist

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Chris did a documentary many years ago about black women and hair that included his own daughter. It delved into insecurities about hair that black women go through, and even touched on experiences of black women with shaving and alopecia.

So that being said, while for the first joke he may have not been fully aware of the sexism, which I’m also not okay with (joke that if Penelope lost, Javier would lose no matter what, because you know women are immature jealous people that you would not hear the end of from, if you won. Or as the children’s movie meet the robinsons says it: “remember Lewis, she’s always right even when she’s wrong”)
The second joke I feel was more insidious, as Chris is 100 percent aware about black women’s insecurity struggles of their hair, and even if he didn’t put together that she had alopecia, he knows it’s a thing, and he knows baldness is a source of insecurity with black women. So I have to conclude that this second joke actually had intent of hurting/attacking someone, not just a topic he was ignorant about, but something he knows how to use against someone.
Thank you SO MUCH for pointing this out. I wanted to mention this, but I didn’t have the energy for it.

Thank you.
 

CaptinEO

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The best punishment the Academy could have done was to not let be there to accept his award. The optics would have been good too. Instead they have to come up with some awkward punishment after the fact and are in a No win situation.
They shouldve kicked him out of the venue at the very least.

The fact he just hung out there after hitting a man is so crazy to myself and millions of others.
 

CaptinEO

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Yeah, funny how widespread Day After outrage and an investigation of him by the Academy can do that, isn't it?

I don't think there's enough rolling eye emoji's on the Internet to respond to that "Sorry, not sorry cause you were mean" prepared statement his publicist wrote for him this afternoon.

And he ends it with... "I am a work in progress." He's 53 years old! 🤣
I have to agree with you. He was dancing at an oscars after party all night and its on video. He wasn't regretful or remorseful until the bad PR came in. He apologized to the academy but then when on his messiah type rant thing about being the protector of women.

Either some people are way too forgiving of their favorite celebrities or they have standards so low that they aren't bothered.

If a person slugs a person in the face it's an assault and a crime.
 

CaptinEO

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Regardless of what Will thinks of himself as a role model to the world, the damage is done.

His career isn't going to recover for it. How tragic he did this on the night he won an academy award too. Yikes. No way can he look at his oscar with pride in his home, it's going to represent this ugly mess.

Will King Richard still advertise the Oscar wins on the front? He soured this whole film about women he claimed he was trying to protect.

King Richard himself said he does not condone Will Smith's violence. It's embarassing.

It's a very sad situation. One brash decision can ruin a lot of great things and this is a perfect example.
 

TP2000

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That Jada may have been pleased with the slap tells me more about their dynamic than I want to know. And that a look could change him from laughing to action.

Exactly. That he was able to switch instantly between laughing-at-joke-about-wife-in-VIP-Section-At-Oscars to physically assaulting a comedian on national TV is scary. They're both in need of serious mental health therapy, as many people now assume.

I've seen fights start over a simple glance, or misunderstanding over words.

At the Oscars? Or any industry awards show ever? Or even an office Christmas party? Because I haven't.

There's a difference between a bunch of fraternity guys in a dive bar at Last Call, and the Oscar's. Or at least, there used to be until last night when Will Smith single handedly dragged the Oscar's down to that trashy dive bar level.

Will's drastic switch from a laughing reaction to assault-and-rage after a glance at Jada seemed like a panicked overreaction to me.

It was very weird. We all saw it. And we all can rewatch it endlessly in 4K on YouTube. There was something unhealthy there. They both need to get help. Quickly.



Anger management classes because he lost his cool and slapped someone one time? You guys, seriously?

Yes. Most definitely.

Again, it wasn't a dive bar in a Midwest college town at 2am with two warring fraternities. It was the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences annual awards show in the Dolby Theatre. Also known as The Oscars. Broadcast live on national television. On ABC. In 4K.

The physical violence Will Smith inflicted on an Oscars host, regardless of how tacky the comedian's hairdo joke was, is unacceptable. At least it used to be, when American society had standards and morality. Many of us refuse to be dragged down into the violent muck that Will and Jada Smith apparently live in. We have standards. You have to behave a certain way in public. Storming on stage and sucker slapping a comedian is not acceptable. Never will be.

It seems Will Smith, as of 5pm Pacific Time the Day After, also now agrees with me and most of us here in this thread, and thank God most of us in this country. But only after the Academy opened an official investigation into his behavior and might take the little statue away from him. I doubt that will happen. He'll keep his statue and ramble on in his diminished career through his 50's and 60's. But it's telling how quickly his tune changes within 18 hours once saner and more mature heads prevail. ;)

 
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CaptinEO

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Will Smith and his career will likely be fine.
I'm sure he has plenty of money and will still be able to get work, but his reputation is forever tarnished. The Oscars is a major event and this is headline news with the majority overwhelmingly shocked at his behavior.
 

CaptinEO

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Forever tarnished, huh? I don’t think so.

Time will tell.
The 1989 Oscars opening number disasters is brought up every year during award season, and no one got assaulted in that, it was just a gaudy over the top musical number.

Will Smith will always be known as the guy who punched someone during the oscars and it will be brought up every year as the worst oscar moment.

Maybe the young lady who played Snow White in 1989 and Rob Lowe finally have relief.

 

Californian Elitist

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The 1989 Oscars opening number disasters is brought up every year during award season, and no one got assaulted in that, it was just a gaudy over the top musical number.

Will Smith will always be known as the guy who punched someone during the oscars and it will be brought up every year as the worst oscar moment.

Maybe the young lady who played Snow White in 1989 and Rob Lowe finally have relief.
Lol @ “the worst Oscar moment.” This incident is actually bringing up other previous Oscar moments that were arguably much worse on social media and in articles. They are serving as nice reminders that the Academy has let worse things slide.

No.
 

TP2000

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They shouldve kicked him out of the venue at the very least.

The fact he just hung out there after hitting a man is so crazy to myself and millions of others.

Apparently the Academy leadership was scrambling to figure out what to do. But the decision makers were all sitting in the audience themselves in various levels of the theater, and they logistically couldn't convene fast enough to make the move to have Dolby Theatre Security and Academy management ask him to leave. And it all played out in less than 30 minutes, in real time, with a live TV show happening.

Which, in the Academy's defense, I understand from a logistics standpoint on what was supposed to be their biggest night of the year. Especially after the last year had been effectively cancelled because of Covid.

It would be like asking a quorum of very busy dwarves to decide what to do about Santa being too drunk to fly on Christmas Eve at 11:45PM, and Mrs. Claus was taking a bubble bath and just kept saying "Calgon, take me away!". 🤣

 
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Practical Pig

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Apparently the Academy leadership was scrambling to figure out what to do. But the decision makers were all sitting in the audience themselves in various levels of the theater, and they logistically couldn't convene fast enough to make the move to have Dolby Theatre Security and Academy management ask him to leave. And it all played out in less than 30 minutes, in real time, with a live TV show happening.

Which, in the Academy's defense, I understand from a logistics standpoint on what was supposed to be their biggest night of the year. Especially after the last year had been effectively cancelled because of Covid.

It would be like asking a quorum of very busy dwarves to decide what to do about Santa being too drunk to fly on Christmas Eve at 11:45PM, and Mrs. Claus was taking a bubble bath and just kept saying "Calgon, take me away!". 🤣


Yep. Thanks for the link supporting my supposition.
 

CaptinEO

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Lol @ “the worst Oscar moment.” This incident is actually bringing up other previous Oscar moments that were arguably much worse on social media and in articles. They are serving as nice reminders that the Academy has let worse things slide.

No.
I'd love to see the things that supposedly top this. Not even the 15 minute Snow White Las Vegas show tune with Rob Lowe is worse than this.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Exactly. That he was able to switch instantly between laughing-at-joke-about-wife-in-VIP-Section-At-Oscars to physically assaulting a comedian on national TV is scary. They're both in need of serious mental health therapy, as many people now assume.



At the Oscars? Or any industry awards show ever? Or even an office Christmas party? Because I haven't.

There's a difference between a bunch of fraternity guys in a dive bar at Last Call, and the Oscar's. Or at least, there used to be until last night when Will Smith single handedly dragged the Oscar's down to that trashy dive bar level.



It was very weird. We all saw it. And we all can rewatch it endlessly in 4K on YouTube. There was something unhealthy there. They both need to get help. Quickly.





Yes. Most definitely.

Again, it wasn't a dive bar in a Midwest college town at 2am with two warring fraternities. It was the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences annual awards show in the Dolby Theatre. Also known as The Oscars. Broadcast live on national television. On ABC. In 4K.

The physical violence Will Smith inflicted on an Oscars host, regardless of how tacky the comedian's hairdo joke was, is unacceptable. At least it used to be, when American society had standards and morality. Many of us refuse to be dragged down into the violent muck that Will and Jada Smith apparently live in. We have standards. You have to behave a certain way in public. Storming on stage and sucker slapping a comedian is not acceptable. Never will be.

It seems Will Smith, as of 5pm Pacific Time the Day After, also now agrees with me and most of us here in this thread, and thank God most of us in this country. But only after the Academy opened an official investigation into his behavior and might take the little statue away from him. I doubt that will happen. He'll keep his statue and ramble on in his diminished career through his 50's and 60's. But it's telling how quickly his tune changes within 18 hours once saner and more mature heads prevail. ;)


Actually yes I've seen it before, even between two actors.

Jerry Lawler smacked Andy Kaufman on David Letterman:



While it ended up being staged between the two at the time that wasn't known, it was however a real smack live on TV.
 

CaptinEO

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Apparently the Academy leadership was scrambling to figure out what to do. But the decision makers were all sitting in the audience themselves in various levels of the theater, and they logistically couldn't convene fast enough to make the move to have Dolby Theatre Security and Academy management ask him to leave. And it all played out in less than 30 minutes, in real time, with a live TV show happening.

Which, in the Academy's defense, I understand from a logistics standpoint on what was supposed to be their biggest night of the year. Especially after the last year had been effectively cancelled because of Covid.

It would be like asking a quorum of very busy dwarves to decide what to do about Santa being too drunk to fly on Christmas Eve at 11:45PM, and Mrs. Claus was taking a bubble bath and just kept saying "Calgon, take me away!". 🤣

Wow very interesting! Did not know this information!

This sounds like a really bad drill for them and we can only hope they learned their lesson. The decision makers need to be ble to make decisions and shouldnt be hanging out partying during the sho.

Thanks for sharing.

In everyone's eyes besides the few people the defend violent attackers, they absolutely failed in their (lack of) decision making.
 

Parteecia

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When a couple of guys who were up to no good
Started making trouble in my neighborhood
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
She said, "You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air"
 

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