The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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I thought of him too, but I don't think he ever follows through.
*shots fired*
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Phroobar

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Makes me wonder what would Disney do if someone went to Disneyland with a t-shirt slogan that criticized the company. Would they care? Would they notice? Would that person be told to change shirts?
 

TROR

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I honestly think the Disneyland rip off theme parks of the 50's and 60's like Freedomland or Legend City are better than what Disney is producing today
 

SuddenStorm

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I rode Mission Breakout for the first time in May, and have ridden it 5 times since. Admittedly, once I'm on the actual ride vehicle, I think it's an absolute blast (even if going up and down gets old after a sec). BUT there's a few things that bother me.

The whole premise is that the Collector has brought his collection to DCA. That's the backstory provided on the website, and its' the best the Imagineers could work with to make it "fit". The problem? It's in the Hollywood Backlot area- a land dedicated to movies being fake. It's an admission that the fantasy isn't real, yet we're expected to suspend disbelief for the ride.

The exterior sign has letters taken by Rocket to form the "Mission Breakout" lettering, with his handprints. It's shown that he's already broken out before you're inside the queue. Yet when you enter the first room with the bulk of the collection, it shows Rocket still in captivity. I'm nitpicking, but this kind of contradiction should be thought of by the ride designers. The Indiana Jones Adventure: Temple of the Forbidden Eye isn't called "Indiana Jones: ESCAPE", since the whole queue operates under the premise that you're not going to look into the eye of Mara.

Harold. That poor animatronic that was once an icon of Disneyland is now rotting inside a Marvel attraction. But how does this work? It's acknowledged that Disneyland exists in the Guardians universe. Rocket directly mentions Disneyland on the ride. So the question is: How did Tivan obtain an animatronic from a Disneyland ride? Is it acknowledged that it's just an animatronic, and the collector has found time to add Disneyland collectibles to his collection? Or is Harold supposed to be a real yeti that's somehow completely static and just looks the same as the one from Disneyland?

Having thematic inconsistencies and intrusions kills the suspension of disbelief necessary to sell an experience. Imagine if on pirates, the auctioneer was holding a cell phone. It'd kill any kind of immersion the seen offers. Mission Breakout is filled with intrusions and inconsistencies (one prop seen in the line are spray painted Otter Boxes)- creating an experience that feels cheap and artificial. Many guests probably don't consciously notice, but I have to wonder how the ride will hold up 10, 20 or 30 years from now.
 

shortstop

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I rode Mission Breakout for the first time in May, and have ridden it 5 times since. Admittedly, once I'm on the actual ride vehicle, I think it's an absolute blast (even if going up and down gets old after a sec). BUT there's a few things that bother me.

The whole premise is that the Collector has brought his collection to DCA. That's the backstory provided on the website, and its' the best the Imagineers could work with to make it "fit". The problem? It's in the Hollywood Backlot area- a land dedicated to movies being fake. It's an admission that the fantasy isn't real, yet we're expected to suspend disbelief for the ride.

The exterior sign has letters taken by Rocket to form the "Mission Breakout" lettering, with his handprints. It's shown that he's already broken out before you're inside the queue. Yet when you enter the first room with the bulk of the collection, it shows Rocket still in captivity. I'm nitpicking, but this kind of contradiction should be thought of by the ride designers. The Indiana Jones Adventure: Temple of the Forbidden Eye isn't called "Indiana Jones: ESCAPE", since the whole queue operates under the premise that you're not going to look into the eye of Mara.

Harold. That poor animatronic that was once an icon of Disneyland is now rotting inside a Marvel attraction. But how does this work? It's acknowledged that Disneyland exists in the Guardians universe. Rocket directly mentions Disneyland on the ride. So the question is: How did Tivan obtain an animatronic from a Disneyland ride? Is it acknowledged that it's just an animatronic, and the collector has found time to add Disneyland collectibles to his collection? Or is Harold supposed to be a real yeti that's somehow completely static and just looks the same as the one from Disneyland?

Having thematic inconsistencies and intrusions kills the suspension of disbelief necessary to sell an experience. Imagine if on pirates, the auctioneer was holding a cell phone. It'd kill any kind of immersion the seen offers. Mission Breakout is filled with intrusions and inconsistencies (one prop seen in the line are spray painted Otter Boxes)- creating an experience that feels cheap and artificial. Many guests probably don't consciously notice, but I have to wonder how the ride will hold up 10, 20 or 30 years from now.
I dislike the meta-premise of Marvel rides at Disney. It’s a slap in the face of quality themed design.
 

BrianLo

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The problem inherently is that MCU (not Marvel in general) sort of needs to be meta. The whole conceit of the movies is that the superheroes really do exist in our version of the world. Meaning Disneyland exists. In fact, Disneyland is even mentioned in Black Panther.

It works reasonably well for Hong Kong (even if the ride is a little chintzy on the bones of Star Tours). The Guardians become difficult, because why exactly would they be anywhere near a theme park?

Thematically, if they are sticking to the script, the one place a limited number of Marvel characters sort of work is EPCOT (I know, purists hate me). A pavilion sponsored by Stark Industries makes sense if the the conceit is that they exist in "our world"... and a Wakanda Pavilion in the World Showcase... the fanboi tears that would flow over that would be unreal though.


How will this Marvel campus work though, why would the Avengers be in DCA? (If that's the angle they are going for).
 

mickEblu

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Original Poster
The problem inherently is that MCU (not Marvel in general) sort of needs to be meta. The whole conceit of the movies is that the superheroes really do exist in our version of the world. Meaning Disneyland exists. In fact, Disneyland is even mentioned in Black Panther.

It works reasonably well for Hong Kong (even if the ride is a little chintzy on the bones of Star Tours). The Guardians become difficult, because why exactly would they be anywhere near a theme park?

Thematically, if they are sticking to the script, the one place a limited number of Marvel characters sort of work is EPCOT (I know, purists hate me). A pavilion sponsored by Stark Industries makes sense if the the conceit is that they exist in "our world"... and a Wakanda Pavilion in the World Showcase... the fanboi tears that would flow over that would be unreal though.


How will this Marvel campus work though, why would the Avengers be in DCA? (If that's the angle they are going for).

Why do Marvel attractions have to be any more Meta than Indiana Jones is? If Guardians was a clever attraction that made sense in its surroundings it wouldn’t have to be meta. We don’t need an explanation on what the Temple of the Forbidden Eye is doing in Adventureland because it works.
 

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