The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

baroquehoedown

baroquehoedown

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I had the pleasure I guess of riding them once or twice when I was a kid. They were...sort of fun and nice in theory, but I will say now the same thing I said back then...I miss the Peoplemovers. Rocket rods had to stop too many times for turns to really make them as fun as they could potentially have been. Seriously though, PM was literally the best place to just rest for a few minutes while still enjoying an attraction and it was such a great way for kids like me that weren't into roller coasters or simulators to experience Tomorrowland.
 
Rich T

Rich T

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baroquehoedown said:
I had the pleasure I guess of riding them once or twice when I was a kid. They were...sort of fun and nice in theory, but I will say now the same thing I said back then...I miss the Peoplemovers. Rocket rods had to stop too many times for turns to really make them as fun as they could potentially have been. Seriously though, PM was literally the best place to just rest for a few minutes while still enjoying an attraction and it was such a great way for kids like me that weren't into roller coasters or simulators to experience Tomorrowland.
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I agree the Peoplemover was awesome, but a lot of people forget that, in its final years, the ride was in really bad shape, providing a rough, noisy journey that felt more ACME conveyor belt than futuristic transport. The ride probably would have required a complete redesign and rebuild to keep functioning.

Also, it had become a hotspot of bad guest behavior. PM was designed for a world where you could count on guests to follow the honor system and enjoy a lengthy, unmonitored ride through dark tunnels and the TL woods WITHOUT switching cars, throwing trash over the side, vandalizing the seats etc. Disney will never build another ride like that again.
 
Rich T

Rich T

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mickEblu said:
Really ****es me off I never got to ride. How long did they run for if you count the constant refurbs?
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I think it logged less than a year and a half of operation... with constant breakdowns on the days it did operate.

The worst part of the experience, by far, was the long wait in the dreary, claustrophobic underground corridor leading from the main queue to the station. Even Single Riders had to go through that part.
 
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mickEblu

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TROR said:
I didn't even know Epcot was this old. Who cares about WDW's history anyway, though?
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In a way this is a very true statement at least when comparing Disneyland to the the Magic Kingdom. It’s like how much can you care about what was omitted or added to the their clones? Disneyland has all the rich history. Let’s take a couple random examples like the only reason BTMRR at The Magic Kingdom has those dinosaur bones at the end of attraction is because Disneyland has them. But why does Disneyland have them? Because they were recreated and reused from the same bones that were part of the Mine Train Thru Nature’s Wonderland attraction. Or why is the jungle cruise placed where it is at the Magic Kingdom? Because that’s where it is at Disneyland. But why? Because of the huge Eucalyptus trees that are behind right city hall. They were used as windbreakers for the orange groves. When they built Disneyland they decided it would be a perfect berm/ backdrop for the jungle cruise. Otherwise it would have went East of Main Street as show in some of the first concept art. Now of course we have a few clones too like Space Mountain and the Country Bear Jamboree but they were few and far between and came a few decades later.

As I write this I realize why all of the east coast diehards and Super fans are all about EPCOT. It’s because it’s really their Disneyland. It’s also the reason that is the park at WDW that intrigues me most. Though I hear it’s a shell of it’s former self.
 
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lazyboy97o

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mickEblu said:
In a way this is a very true statement at least when comparing Disneyland to the the Magic Kingdom. It’s like how much can you care about what was omitted or added to the their clones? Disneyland has all the rich history. Let’s take a couple random examples like the only reason BTMRR at The Magic Kingdom has those dinosaur bones at the end of attraction is because Disneyland has them. But why does Disneyland have them? Because they were recreated and reused from the same bones that were part of the Mine Train Thru Nature’s Wonderland attraction. Or why is the jungle cruise placed where it is at the Magic Kingdom? Because that’s where it is at Disneyland. But why? Because of the huge Eucalyptus trees that are behind right city hall. They were used as windbreakers for the orange groves. When they built Disneyland they decided it would be a perfect berm/ backdrop for the jungle cruise. Otherwise it would have went East of Main Street as show in some of the first concept art. Now of course we have a few clones too like Space Mountain and the Country Bear Jamboree but they were few and far between and came a few decades later.

As I write this I realize why all of the east coast diehards and Super fans are all about EPCOT. It’s because it’s really their Disneyland. It’s also the reason that is the park at WDW that intrigues me most. Though I hear it’s a shell of it’s former self.
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EPCOT Center is also related to the very reason for Walt Disney World to exist. The property wasn’t clandestinely bought for Disneyland East, even if that was included, it was bought for EPCOT. To this day, the building codes are the EPCOT Building Codes.
 
Figments Friend

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mickEblu said:
As I write this I realize why all of the east coast diehards and Super fans are all about EPCOT. It’s because it’s really their Disneyland. It’s also the reason that is the park at WDW that intrigues me most. Though I hear it’s a shell of it’s former self.
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Indeed.
EPCOT Center , from 83' to 89' was indeed 'my Disneyland'.
The place was truly unique back then, and the Attractions and various themed environments were incredible to experience in person.
There was literally nothing like it.
The Park experience back then really inspired you to go forth and do great things with what you had learned, seen, and been exposured to while there.
I was one of many deeply effected by the visits to this amazing place.

Sadly, today's Epcot is a pale shadow of its former self.
It is indeed true that much of that former greatness has been eroded away slowly over the years starting in the late 1990s.
It truly is a shell of its former self as some of the changes made have negatively impacted the special place it used to be.

However, there are still a few glimpses left of its former greatness if one knows where to look.
Remnants of its former glory shine forth despite being surrounded and smothered in lesser efforts.

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VJ

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Figments Friend said:
Indeed.
EPCOT Center , from 83' to 89' was indeed 'my Disneyland'.
The place was truly unique back then, and the Attractions and various themed environments were incredible to experience in person.
There was literally nothing like it.
The Park experience back then really inspired you to go forth and do great things with what you had learned, seen, and been exposured to while there.
I was one of many deeply effected by the visits to this amazing place.

Sadly, today's Epcot is a pale shadow of its former self.
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disneyland has reclaimed its former title as EVERYONE'S DISNEYLAND
 
Phroobar

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Too bad Mutual of Omaha doesn't sponsor DAK. Then it could be
Mutual of Omaha's Animal Kingdom.

All they need is to resurrect Marlin Perkins.

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TROR

TROR

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Golden Dreams was the best part of DCA 1.0. We need more historical attractions like that. Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln, Hall of Presidents, American Adventure, and Spaceship Earth are all we have left and three of those are at Walt Disney World.
 

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