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The Miscellaneous Thought Thread
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Disney Analyst
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It’s cute.
PiratesMansion
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I watched Elemental for the first time last night.
Not one of Pixar's high watermarks, but I did think that the conceptual logic had more thought put into it than some of their other more recent films-and, not recent by any stretch, but a bit more logical than, say, Cars. It reminded me of Zootopia both in look (do Disney and Pixar share a common cityscape software program at this point?) and in overall message, which just goes to reinforce that there's no meaningful distinction between Disney and Pixar anymore. There was, naturally, some beautiful animation featured, particularly water animation, which looked more photorealistic than I can recall in any previous Disney/Pixar movie, and there was some good character animation with the male protagonist, whose name I have already forgotten.
The real problem was (as usual) the terribly modern script aimed at the lowest common denominator, and (unusually for Pixar) the voice cast, who certainly did nothing to elevate the material or convincingly argue that no one else could have played these characters. I enjoyed Elemental more than Onward, not that that's saying much, and The Good Dinosaur (the OTHER movie made by this film's director), but I'm not sure how I would rank it compared to the others. It'd definitely be in the bottom half of their filmography.
I do hope at some point Pixar is able to get to a point where they're consistently turning out gold the way they were from, say, 99-09, but it seems further and further away with each passing year.
Not one of Pixar's high watermarks, but I did think that the conceptual logic had more thought put into it than some of their other more recent films-and, not recent by any stretch, but a bit more logical than, say, Cars. It reminded me of Zootopia both in look (do Disney and Pixar share a common cityscape software program at this point?) and in overall message, which just goes to reinforce that there's no meaningful distinction between Disney and Pixar anymore. There was, naturally, some beautiful animation featured, particularly water animation, which looked more photorealistic than I can recall in any previous Disney/Pixar movie, and there was some good character animation with the male protagonist, whose name I have already forgotten.
The real problem was (as usual) the terribly modern script aimed at the lowest common denominator, and (unusually for Pixar) the voice cast, who certainly did nothing to elevate the material or convincingly argue that no one else could have played these characters. I enjoyed Elemental more than Onward, not that that's saying much, and The Good Dinosaur (the OTHER movie made by this film's director), but I'm not sure how I would rank it compared to the others. It'd definitely be in the bottom half of their filmography.
I do hope at some point Pixar is able to get to a point where they're consistently turning out gold the way they were from, say, 99-09, but it seems further and further away with each passing year.
DrAlice
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We just watched this last weekend. I enjoyed it for what it was, but I squarely put this in the "how many times can we make this same movie" category. Yes, the world and character design were interesting, but this was really just "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" dressed up in some nifty animation.
Maybe I'm just old, and have gotten to the "yup, I've seen this before" stage of life.
waltography
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Cute show. Same vibes as the Hurry Home World of Color preshow they do for Lunar New Year.
PiratesMansion
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To clarify what the DL app seems to be saying: Monsters After Dark and the Carsland spinners are in their Halloween modes daily (from 3 PM or so for MAD and from open to close for the others) and not simply during OBB?
For Luigi's and Mater's, are there new ride profiles or just new songs?
Can I still see the same OBB lighting during a normal operating day?
For Luigi's and Mater's, are there new ride profiles or just new songs?
Can I still see the same OBB lighting during a normal operating day?
Nland316
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I went on the Matterhorn for the first time in a long while during my last trip.
I totally get the classic Disney charm it has but it seriously is the most rough ride experience at the park. I left the ride with a headache which never happens to me after riding roller coasters.
I totally get the classic Disney charm it has but it seriously is the most rough ride experience at the park. I left the ride with a headache which never happens to me after riding roller coasters.
Consumer
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Possibly my most controversial Disney opinion is my stance they should tear down the Matterhorn. Of course, if they did that, I believe it should be rebuilt, just better. I’ve always been drawn to this fan concept art that includes an entire Alps complex with multiple attractions, dining, and shops. This would be worth losing the history of the Matterhorn, the subs, and the lagoon.
CHOX
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That Matterhorn complex is great. Add a Pinocchio or Frozen stage show in the restaurant and it would be absolutely perfect. Olaf could even host a Pinocchio Marionette show.
Random musings…
If Disney loves money how come they don’t do a Disney Dogs & Cats line? Not merch for animals, but merch for people who love animals. This country loves dogs and cats! Millennials especially are into that ****. Children love them too. Like it or not, dog culture in America is out of control.
I know they have SOME stuff, but I’m taking a full blown line. Figaro, 101 Dalmatians, Oliver & Company, The Aristocats, Lady and the Tramp, Bolt, Max, Nana, Lucifer, Baghers, Sox, etc. Even if these movies aren’t box office hits people will eat that **** up!
MAKE THE KITTENS REGULAR CHARACTERS AT DISNEYLAND!
Random musings…
If Disney loves money how come they don’t do a Disney Dogs & Cats line? Not merch for animals, but merch for people who love animals. This country loves dogs and cats! Millennials especially are into that ****. Children love them too. Like it or not, dog culture in America is out of control.
I know they have SOME stuff, but I’m taking a full blown line. Figaro, 101 Dalmatians, Oliver & Company, The Aristocats, Lady and the Tramp, Bolt, Max, Nana, Lucifer, Baghers, Sox, etc. Even if these movies aren’t box office hits people will eat that **** up!
MAKE THE KITTENS REGULAR CHARACTERS AT DISNEYLAND!
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CaptinEO
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The Matterhorn and Splash Mountain both had different searing arrangements pre 2010 and were much more comfortable fun rides. The seat dividers made both rides worse, especially matterhorn.
TP2000
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Over in the movie sub-forum I had postulated that the best thing about Elemental is that it seems to have stopped the damage being done to the Pixar brand. Chapek's Disney+ strategy was disastrous for all of Disney's flagship studios with mega-budget movies, but Pixar seems to have fared the worst from that.
Elemental might not become a beloved classic, but at least it was a solid movie that put a floor under the collapsing Pixar brand. Let's hope that the next two or three movies at least are really good, and Pixar can re-establish itself as a "Must See In Theaters" movie brand instead of the "Wait To Watch For Free On Disney+" movie brand in the minds of American parents and ticket buyers.
Guess Who's Coming To Dinner? is one of my all-time favorite movies. I own the Blu-Ray and about every 18 to 24 months I make a nice big dinner, open a bottle of good wine, and sit down and watch it in its entirety in 4K widescreen glory. It's cinematic brilliance, with only one minor weak spot. (cough, cough... Katherine Houghton... cough)
And yes, I still tear up just a bit at the end during Spencer Tracy's closing speech. Every. Damn. Time.
So I would have a hard time seeing any sort of remake based on it. I had high hopes when I learned Catherine O'Hara was voicing the mom, but then the reviews and info came in on it and I passed. Oh, well.
"Don't speak, Hilary, just go..."
TP2000
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I've done that one too several times. That's a great flight, one of the rare Fifth Freedom flights (as the industry calls them I learned) a flag carrier can do between two different countries that aren't its own.
Singapore has just one other Fifth Freedom flight from New York to Frankfurt. Otherwise, to fly Singapore Airlines you need to actually go to Singapore. Which is a shame, because they are truly excellent at what they do. And what an incredible ambassador for their nation and their culture!
Just seeing those Singapore Airlines stewardesses walking through an airport is a treat for fans of professionalism and polish and poise. They're like the 21st century version of that scene from Catch Me If You Can where the gorgeous Pan Am stewardesses walk through the terminal and they distract all the FBI men searching for Leonardo Dicaprio and they miss him as they smile at the Pan Am stews instead.
Phroobar
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A floor doesn't do much when the ceiling is collapsing and the walls have crumbing. The movie was mediocre and predictable. I think it made the wait to watch on Disney+ even more appropriate. It sure wasn't must see in theaters day one.
Communicora
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Don't you think there will be some sort of twist?
waltography
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I mean, the directors are very explicit that King Magnifico is supposed to be a classic villain, so that can't be the whole story.
I've heard floating around that the conflict is King Magnifico only grants wishes that don't threaten the people's subservience to/dependence on him, which is why Asha goes off on her own and "betrays" him. A lot more villainous than "I won't grant every wish".
Rich T
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For me, this trailer just screams modern corporate Disney blandness. It does nothing to make me want to pay to watch this film in a theater. And it sure spoils a major humorous reveal that I’m gonna guess the film makers were really hoping would be a funny surprise for the audience.
The film could still be excellent. I disliked the Encanto trailer and ended up enjoying the movie. I just hope the finished product is better than the vibe I get from this promo.
chadwpalm
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The movie will underperform because with its ridiculous budget it will need to make like $600M just to break even?
J/K, that's not a twist.