I strongly disagree with this. Marvel has had very little canceling of films. Especially in the mcu. And if you're going back through history, still not a great companion because marvel has made A LOT more than they've cancelled. Heck, add in all of Lucas star wars and they've still cancelled more than theyve done. I'm not counting untitled marvel film on a release calendar... as an announcement.
Sure, he's hard on star wars. But this comment, that triggered this conversation, he has a valid point. I'm not sure how someone could really even argue it. You might be more confident about the films all getting made, and that's great. But for some, it's the proof is in the pudding as they say. The track record for star wars is there.
I don’t know that they’ve ever confirmed a Season 4 is happening, or in development. I think they were still writing scripts. Yet the Mando and Grogu film is going into production this year (which presumably means they have a script ready or near ready, pre-viz is already being worked up, and talent schedules booked.
Sorry I disagree Marvel (through their studio partners) has had a history of announcing projects and then cancelling them. It hasn't happened much in the MCU, but Marvel was making movies before the MCU. So in that respect yeah Lucas has done it more recently but its not like they are the only ones. So my default stance with any Hollywood announcement is always, I'll believe it when I see it, doesn't mean I can't discuss or speculate on the same. Basically it should just go without saying, that is my point.
But if you go back before the mcu, it was multiple studios. So I'm not sure it's the same thing. But again, it has 100% happened at other studios. But Disney has done it in an extremely short time.
Of course, I'm not saying it isn't. But your response did make it seem like thinking the films might not actually get made wasn't a valid opinion. It just seemed like a strange thing to push back on. You had said you believed the film was still happening. And he said I'll believe it when they shot a frame of it. That just didn't sound like he was squashing your opinion.
We’re just not going to see eye-to-eye on this. And we’ve taken enough time discussing this so best to move on.
No. I don't. I don't make baseless assumptions, and especially announce them like they're fact.
And even if what was Mando Season 4 is condensed into this movie which is unclear, there's still the issue of Ahsoka Season 2 as you said, as well as any other "Filoni-verse" shows that might tie-in between now and release.
It's just very confusing, and I have been very vocal about my support for the 3 new films announced by Lucasfilm last year (Rey's, Mando-verse, Dawn of the Jedi). However now, I am back into believing that they have no clear vision (yet again) for the future of the Star Wars franchise.
Filoni is officially the CCO of Lucasfilm now. I don’t think we’ll see any less of Filionis style.
Which is not a good thing IMO. Yeah he's great for the super fans and SW nerds but I don't think his style is great for the more casual fans or bring in new ones
Why? Too much homework on his characters?
I disagree but to each their own
It really does seem like they have no vision. I feel the same way. Is the Rey film the start of 10, 11 & 12? Is the dawn of the Jedi the start of the old republic? Is Filoniverse it's own saga and is the mando film part of it? It just seems like a hodgepodge of stuff to see if something sticks.
Because it was a bit of a knee jerk in my opinion. If it was this far along that it will start shooting in the summer, why not announce it with the others? It must be the furthest along so why not? The appearance to me is they wanted some positive headlines since the Rey film reception hasn't been great.
I don’t think this is really an issue. 3 separate films are fine. They’re mining 3 different sets of fans, to yes, see “what sticks”. The films could be standalone, or upon their success or failure may get sequels.
I think the reception of the Rey film is mixed, for sure. But has been getting especially negative press in recent days.
