The Imagineer--Project 3

[Sassagoula-Rvr]

Haha whatever...The funniest part of this all is you're for the most part (now maybe not you specifically...) The same as the competitors, fans of Disney imagineering and Disney that just signed up...instead of being a competitor you signed up to be a judge though. It's not like you're former imagineers...sorry if I offend anyone.


And yes let me say that I do understand that it needed to be better executed...That was one thing I think we all would have agreed on but we flat out ran out of time. I mean honestly the whole name was thrown together, "Ned's Nocturnal Adventure"? Seriously that isn't something Disney would dream of putting out. That was basically a working name but again we ran out of time...CM had to work and me and Comics are still in school and I know with my schedule and his...it was hard to justify putting a Physics paper behind a message board contest...So my biggest issue was you guys basically saying that "TIME is not what caused you guys to have a sucky project." I truly believe we would have worked it out.

But again thank you for your encouragment!

Thanks for the efforts though...it was fun well it lasted.

 

[cmwade77]

At least our attraction had animals. The Pocahontas idea was filled with problems one is why spend the money for a show building if you are going to sync the weather to outside? Pocahontas has been way over done, at least use a story that hasn't been used everywhere. As for the ancient God thing, Disney wouldn't do it in this day and age, it's way too controversial. If anywhere could do a nighttime adventure, then why hasn't it been done? Disney would have the money and ability to do it right and it fits with the theme of animal kingdom, how do either of the other attractions fit with the purpose of the park? Really, take the wild by design tour sometime and you will understand what I am saying.

What I think was being said about you asking for a generic movie ride was that given the time limits, that is really all that could be accomplished.

As for us almost plagerizing jungle cruise, I disagree completely, there are boats and animals, but the animals are real, there is a virtual host that helps you find the animals and gives real facts in an entertaining way. It is important that an attraction teaches without letting the guest know that they are being taught, this is actually one of the most impotant things in an attraction at both Animal Kingdom and EPCOT and this is by design.

 

[Disneyson 1]

And yes let me say that I do understand that it needed to be better executed...That was one thing I think we all would have agreed on but we flat out ran out of time. I mean honestly the whole name was thrown together, "Ned's Nocturnal Adventure"? Seriously that isn't something Disney would dream of putting out. That was basically a working name but again we ran out of time...CM had to work and me and Comics are still in school and I know with my schedule and his...it was hard to justify putting a Physics paper behind a message board contest...So my biggest issue was you guys basically saying that "TIME is not what caused you guys to have a sucky project." I truly believe we would have worked it out.

But again thank you for your encouragement!

Thanks for the efforts though...it was fun well it lasted.

I'm very sorry for the time constraint, and I know you can do better, I said it myself! But you can't blame time on everything, we had a very original idea on Egypt and that Pocahantas ride WAS different than the movie, they found a good way to shorten it and they made it very fitting for the area it was in.

I'm sure time would have helped, but the problem was that there were 2 projects that were somewhat better than yours in certain terms. I understand that the idea was there, but the flesh of the project was left somewhere far away from the challenge. Unfortunately, the other projects had more of it. Sorry again, but the idea was good... but not all there, as you said yourself.

I'm sure MATER (cough cough) will look into a longer schedule for bigger projects such as this one.

 

[Disneyson 1]

At least our attraction had animals.

True, the only one with real ones. But, as pointed out in Pyramid, the "message" of the natural world, conservation, etc. is also a key point. (i.e. Kali River Rapids)

The Pocahontas idea was filled with problems one is why spend the money for a show building if you are going to sync the weather to outside?

Yes, we brought this up in their critique.

Pocahontas has been way over done, at least use a story that hasn't been used everywhere.

I've never seen this rendition of a Pocahantas Log Flume EVER BEFORE using this story.

As for the ancient God thing, Disney wouldn't do it in this day and age, it's way too controversial.

They did it with Indy in DL and the Yeti IS worshiped like a God.

If anywhere could do a nighttime adventure, then why hasn't it been done?

Oh come on. You've never been to a "bat house" at the zoo??? It's been done plenty of times, you just added the water. While this is a smart idea, you forgot about the Disney tradition of story.

Disney would have the money and ability to do it right and it fits with the theme of animal kingdom, how do either of the other attractions fit with the purpose of the park? Really, take the wild by design tour sometime and you will understand what I am saying.

- Pocahantas exclaims it's message throughout the ride. Pocahantas denies Kokuom (I spelt that wrong) because he doesn't jive with the colors of the wind, but accepts John Smith because of her love and the fact that he is willing to try. She even says a conservation message at the end of the ride!

- Pyramid, similarly to Everest and Kali, talks about superstitions that have to do with the drought. It also talks about not tampering with nature's wonders and such. What message did your ride convey besides "Animalz r cool and endangered"?

What I think was being said about you asking for a generic movie ride was that given the time limits, that is really all that could be accomplished.

They did it with the pyramid. If they had a giant snake blocking the water path or something involving animals, then they would have won for sure, no matter if they came late.

As for us almost plagerizing jungle cruise, I disagree completely, there are boats and animals, but the animals are real, there is a virtual host that helps you find the animals and gives real facts in an entertaining way.

This is fair enough, but you used the same character, the same idea of going on a "international" river (although you never said anything about a magic river, if you did maybe you would have been saved...), PLUS the skipper idea. Then you just put it in a bat house and said "Done."

It is important that an attraction teaches without letting the guest know that they are being taught, this is actually one of the most impotant things in an attraction at both Animal Kingdom and EPCOT and this is by design.

Yes, but your ride ONLY teaches. You had an AA recite facts about animals with no rising and falling action, which is a story. You never created a story, which your team partners say is due to lack of time. YOU, on the other hand, don't seem to think so. YOU seem like you led the team... I'm thinking you had more to do with this ride than her, and that might be a problem... but I'll let you off the hook because I know you can do some great things and you might just be missing the point.

This is an example of a GOOD project:

"... Mickey defeats the Maleficent dragon by "stabbing her" with a sword that pops out of the ground. Sparks shoot from the sword and the dragon writhes in pain as it begins it decent back into the pit on the island. On the same mist screens from before, the villains are seen screeching in pain as they are electrocuted to death. Strobe lights on the island help the effect. The battle is over. Mickey has restored peace to his Imagination. Fireworks rain down as the villains explode on the 40 ft tall mist screens. Soon, Tinker Bell flits onto the screens and waves her wand to some pixie dust sounds. The strobe lights continue to flash on the island as Steamboat Willie comes into view..."

And a BAD one...:

"Summary:

Mickey uses his powers of IMAGINATION to beat the villains.

BIG effects:

- Big snake representing Jafar

- Maleficent Dragon using new technology

- 3 boats that change 2 times during the show

WHY it fits:

It's a fun show based on Disney with lots of stunts and fireworks and stuff. And it can go in The Land because it takes place in Mickey's Imagination, so it can be anywhere. They can make room to fit it into the river there. And who DOESN'T love big dragons????????"

^That's bad.

 

[MaterA113]

i AM reading this and all i am seeing are justifications of WHY you should be eliminated... or excuses b/c of time...

I KNOW TIME IS AN ISSUE... that is partof the game... being within a schedule..

But as i said BEFORE i have taken that issue into consideration and am working on the timing... i just dont want each attraction to take up a month, then it would take a year...

Personally, i think that this was an EASY assignment... I really didnt ask for much... It was a simple E Ticket attraction... I dont know about you but i can think of several additions to DAK right now...

ANd sorry if this is mean but all i have to say is.... Please get over it because WE ALL KNOW time is an issue and you DONT have to keep talking about time time time time time...

I hope you all understaand

 

[KingMickey]

Ok, so I'm gone for a day and so much stuff happens.

Really, I can understand contestants being ed off because of eliminations, I've been there before in other similar contests. I've been in your shoes before. Sometimes you just gotta let things run their course and they'll work out for you.

As for us being judges, the reason why we're judges is because Mater asked us to become them and we all equally have had a lot of experience on this boards. Really, you guys shouldn't be judging fellow contestants' projects. It's just not right. You're not comparing your project with anothers, that's not what this competition is about. It's about growing as an Imagineer. If you were to go through this competition comparing projects, how would you ever grow and learn from mistakes?

It's about putting your best foot forward and seeing what you can do. The judges aren't the ones seeing it, you are.

I can't comment on team work, because only the contestants really know just how well thay worked together. Yes, we realize that time is an issue. Hell, sometimes I don't want to post anything, which is why it takes me forever to update projects, also the reason why I took a break from this season for awhile.

I realize that this contest could be an absolute annoyance sometimes, with deadlines and tasks and criteria, and I don't think we ever really get across how great you guys are. I have never said anything along the lines of "THAT PROJECT ABSOLUTELY SUCKED. WASTE OF TIME." What's the sense in that? There's nothing constructive about that statement. In what I've, as well as the other judges have said so far, was constructive criticism on how to improve on the next project. We're rally all cheering for you and we all want you to put something great on the table.

Complaining about past projects or dwelling on small mistakes in the past doesn't help the situation get better. Don't fill your mind with previous projects and mistakes, fill it with goals and accomplishments. Think of the Imagineer you could be by the time the next project comes around.