Rumor The EPCOT Hotel

[wdwgreek]

Thank you.

From the options I’ve seen I think the hotel proposals - aside from the bus station area one - will be detrimental to the existing park. I wish I could explain why, but I can’t yet.

Now that is sorely disappointing. My only point was the theory of a hotel, not the execution. I trust your judgement on the detrimental to the design aspect 100% and given the current suits I wouldn't be surprised. Your insight is always appreciated.

 

[marni1971]

Now that is sorely disappointing. My only point was the theory of a hotel, not the execution. I trust your judgement on the detrimental to the design aspect 100% and given the current suits I wouldn't be surprised. Your insight is always appreciated.

Again, thank you.

Edit @wdwgreek sorry if I came across as arrogant. That wasn’t the intention.

 

[KrazyKat]

If this hotel is supposedly going in the FW part of EPCOT, it better look futuristic.

 

[sedati]

Trust me. I know as much about E.P.C.O.T. as is possible.

Do you know where the bench was going to go so Walt and Lillian could people watch?

 

[JoeCamel]

Do you know where the bench was going to go so Walt and Lillian could people watch?

I bet he does but it is 2 am in England now....

 

[sedati]

I bet he does but it is 2 am in England now....

Oh no, so he'll miss it?
I'll try and pull the question back out of the internet tubes when the great conjunction occurs and we're all in perfect sync.

 

[JoeCamel]

Oh no, so he'll miss it?
I'll try and pull the question back out of the internet tubes when the great conjunction occurs and we're all in perfect sync.

Blecchhhhh...

 

[sedati]

Blecchhhhh...

Thanks. At least we're both up and internetting at the same time.

 

[BEARSHOUSE4]

If this hotel is supposedly going in the FW part of EPCOT, it better look futuristic.

Who’s version of what future?

 

[the.dreamfinder]

The Californian is “inside” the park just like Miracosta.

They both have entrances from the outside too. One side facing the park and one facing the outside.

No Disney hotel is entirely inside a park.

The Four Corners of the World at WestCOT had built-in hotels on the upper levels.

And there’s your fundamental design problem with the Epcot hotel, it’s being designed into the park after the fact. Disneyland Hotel Paris, Grand Californian, Mira Costa and the WestCOT hotel(RIP) were designed with those parks, they are in some cases core components of the staging and guest sight lines. I know @marni1971 cant say much, but a project like this is a nightmare from a design standpoint. If you mess it up, you break the park reveal in an irreversible manner.

 

[rreading]

The other trick is that there is no space between the monorail station and the entrance to put a marquee hotel; just the pool area would consume most of that space. They would have to go quite vertical, and even then, it would still have to allow a huge volume of people to pass through it to get to the monorail.

I do suppose - and this could be interesting- it could envelop the monorail terminal similar to the contemporary.

As much as I could appreciate the idea of a hotel done well to enhance the entrance, it would need to be done well.

 

[Whatsthegoodword]

Thank you.

From the options I’ve seen I think the hotel proposals - aside from the bus station area one - will be detrimental to the existing park. I wish I could explain why, but I can’t yet.

The current Epcot is a shell of its former self. Frankly, I don't think it can be drug down much more - and a hotel, no matter where they put it, won't make much of a difference.

 

[GoofGoof]

The current Epcot is a shell of its former self. Frankly, I don't think it can be drug down much more - and a hotel, no matter where they put it, won't make much of a difference.

How about inside the big ball?

 

[KrazyKat]

Who’s version of what future?

Would be great if it was Walt’s but...

 

[marni1971]

The current Epcot is a shell of its former self. Frankly, I don't think it can be drug down much more - and a hotel, no matter where they put it, won't make much of a difference.

I know. Maybe I’m vainly still clinging to some stupid glimmer of hope that doesn’t exist.

 

[ChrisFL]

So if we're discussing terminology with people who may be less knowledgeable

E.P.C.O.T. - the City plan designed by Walt personally that never came into fruition after his passing
EPCOT Center - The 1982 theme park which kept the name and generally the same unifying themes until the early 90's when they decided to change it to Epcot (insert year here) then eventually just Epcot.
Epcot - The lost mess of a park that we see today

 

[Magic Feather]

I know. Maybe I’m vainly still clinging to some stupid glimmer of hope that doesn’t exist.

Well, I'd say FW West has hope. East and most of World Showcase though? Forget it.

 

[Clopin Trouillefou]

Well, I'd say FW West has hope. East and most of World Showcase though? Forget it.

May I ask (earnestly, in case it doesn't come across that way online) why you think world showcase is hopeless? because I think a reasonable case could be made that any additions are positive additions (even if the new attractions themselves are character-based as opposed to something like a ride showcasing Japanese countryside on o I don't know let's say a form of mass transit considered to be a feat of engineering, which would be ideal)

 

[marni1971]

Well, I'd say FW West has hope. East and most of World Showcase though? Forget it.

Yes. Land and Seas surprised me I have to say.

 

[montyz81]

Yes. Land and Seas surprised me I have to say.

Ummm, Maybe I am reading this wrong, but are you saying that Land and Seas are on the chopping block to make room for this new Hotel?