The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Pixieish

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Don't discount household disinfectants! A couple recent studies have shown a strong correlation between households that clean a lot with cleaners and kids who have food allergies and sensitivities.

This is good news. Lord knows I never clean! :hilarious:

My son has intermittent asthma because the daycare he was in until he was about 2 used too much bleach - so not good for the lungs! (And I'm right there with ya, @MinnieM123!! Who has time for that?!?)

You guys both hit the mark on this one. It's the idiots who think that just because they have an SUV, they're invincible on snow & ice-covered highways and roads.

I know at some point in the past few years, I posted about when hubs and I had our dinky 1997 Ford Escort, and we drove it in a blizzard up on the Maine Turnpike. We were going at about 30 mph, and all these SUVs were flying past us. As we drove further up the Pike, we saw quite a few of these SUV speed jockeys off the road in ditches, due to their dangerous driving. Maine State Troopers had their hands full that night, pulling these fools out of the roadside ditches.

:hilarious::hilarious::hilarious: It's 4x4 pickups around here - someone buy a big truck that they don't know to drive, they go too fast or use the 4x4 on ice...and BOOM. I literally drove by 15 4x4s in the ditch one day.

Actually, if that is what it is, it is affecting me right now. Over the last three weeks I have been unable to walk any distance without a lot of pain in what feels like my hip joint, but, apparently isn't. Nerve situations. I'm hoping that something can be done about it soon before lethargy takes over and I hit the rocking chair and shawl stage way to early.

Have you seen a chiropractor? I strained my sacroiliac joint (in my hip) and it was the worst pain I've ever experienced in my life (I couldn't bear my own weight). Not the kind that crack your joints chiro...the stretchy kind of chiropractor...might be worth a shot?
I have 2 friends that could not have children and adopted.

Both were pregnant within a month of receiving their newborn infants. :facepalm:

And they can buy my house, we have a mega Facebook Office in Chicago, we are walking distance to the train. ;)

As an adopted kid familiar with all the baggage that can go along with being adopted, I have SO MUCH respect for anyone who adopts!
Believe it was better for both the company and the employees prior to the lack of loyalty agenda.
My husband's work is like that - they chew people up and spit them out. It's AWFUL. I've been begging him to change jobs for years, but he just won't for some reason.
 

Goofyernmost

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Have you seen a chiropractor? I strained my sacroiliac joint (in my hip) and it was the worst pain I've ever experienced in my life (I couldn't bear my own weight). Not the kind that crack your joints chiro...the stretchy kind of chiropractor...might be worth a shot?
I haven't seen one yet, I've had similar problems, not quite as extreme as this one, in the past and over a week or so it just went away. Unfortunately, last week, when I went to the doctor, as luck would have it, that day it was much better so we adopted a wait and see stance. It actually got much better just a few days after to the point where I really thought that it was going to be the same as previous like situations. I really thought it was gone, but, it was just in hiding waiting to pounce on me a couple of days later. So now my MD is trying to figure out what method of diagnoses we should try first, but, I have been giving some serious thought to finding a chiropractor on my own if they don't recommend it. My medical care is from the Veterans Administration. Here in this part of NC, the service basically comes from Duke Medical Center, which is a premier health care college and hospital. Unless they refer me to a chiropractor it is a strictly out of pocket expense. If they can't figure it out, I will bite the bullet and find one soon.

BTW, not being able to bear my one weight is one of the symtoms of this one. Sometimes if I sit for just a minute it seems to be less of a problem, then it comes back. I really feel that due to that reaction that it is acting like a pinched nerve that adjust briefly and then falls back in harms way.
 

Goofyernmost

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Exactly. My issue. We don't really want to go back to those times of bugs and mice/rats in such things.The good and evil of all.
Ah yes, the one bit of logic that is missing from the organic era. Bugs that destroyed entire crops and caused famine and death along with disease that killed entire populations. We tend to forget that in our obsession with fear of chemicals. Basically, we, as a species live a lot longer then those that didn't have the benefit of "better living through chemistry". Organic also means not sheltered from nature, which can be as deadly, if not more so then chemicals are. Not to mention that you are more liable to go broke buying 'organic' and will eventually starve to death anyway. Our obsessions sometimes do not hold water when we acknowledge the facts and not believe everything that we are told. That is applicable to more then just our food supply as well.
 

Goofyernmost

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My son has intermittent asthma because the daycare he was in until he was about 2 used too much bleach - so not good for the lungs! (And I'm right there with ya, @MinnieM123!! Who has time for that?!?)
That to me is one of the "Catch 22's" involved with the organic movement. No chemicals, yet the same people that do not leave home without their bottle of disinfectant do not seem to realize that those products are as strong, if not stronger than, chemicals that they work so hard to avoid. Bleach, and other "chemicals" have been used for years to help eliminate germs thus avoiding problems, now you have first hand experience of how either the use of bleach or the amateur with control of quantities can be as harmful as what, if not more so, then the problem it was trying to eliminate. Chemicals are chemicals, some have hidden problems inherent with the product and other have unfounded claims against them from people that just generally feel that all chemistry is bad for you.
 
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Pixieish

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That to me is one of the "Catch 22's" involved with the organic movement. No chemicals, yet the same people that do not leave home without their bottle of disinfectant do not seem to realize that those products are as strong, if not stronger, chemicals that they work so hard to avoid. Bleach, and other "chemicals" have been used for years to help eliminate germs thus avoiding problems, now you have first hand experience of how either the use of bleach or the amateur with control of quantities can be as harmful as what, if not more so, then the problem it was trying to eliminate. Chemicals are chemicals, some have hidden problems inherent with the product and other have unfounded claims against them from people that just generally feel that all chemistry is bad for you.
OMG...there were a couple of times I walked into that daycare and the smell of the bleach was enough to knock you over. I still have guilt wondering how often my son was sitting in those fumes. My husband has become somewhat of a weirdo when it comes to germs the last 10 years...he's not a germophobe per se, but he insists on using antibacterial soap and all that other junk no matter how many times I tell him that regular soap and warm water do basically the same thing as long as you wash long enough.
 

MouseDreaming

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That's what I thought with hunchback too but I've watched it again in recent years and found it enjoyable. I like the out there song. And it probably doesn't hurt that it now reminds me of when hubs and I were in Paris and the time we spent at the cathedral.

When I rewatched it about a year ago, I realized Hunchback has the most evil of Disney villains.
 

MouseDreaming

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Well hubs broke his ankle in two spots, but there was no displacement of the bones. But it is his right ankle so no driving for 6-8 weeks. That is a huge bummer especially with his job he has to drive around quite a bit.
Oh no! I am so far behind, that hopefully he is mending nicely by this time. And also hope that he is ahead of schedule, because he is an ideal patient.
 

DryerLintFan

Premium Member
That to me is one of the "Catch 22's" involved with the organic movement. No chemicals, yet the same people that do not leave home without their bottle of disinfectant do not seem to realize that those products are as strong, if not stronger than, chemicals that they work so hard to avoid. Bleach, and other "chemicals" have been used for years to help eliminate germs thus avoiding problems, now you have first hand experience of how either the use of bleach or the amateur with control of quantities can be as harmful as what, if not more so, then the problem it was trying to eliminate. Chemicals are chemicals, some have hidden problems inherent with the product and other have unfounded claims against them from people that just generally feel that all chemistry is bad for you.

Most of the people that I know who choose to eat organic and farm fresh use natural cleaners and hygiene items.
 

MouseDreaming

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Next time. We actually opted to eat in the enclosed porch this time as winter was coming and it was so pretty outside. The glass folding doors were closed to the outside 'cause it wasn't that warm and the windows to the interior seating were open. Even the floor and wall tiles were so pretty plus everything from the ceiling. Nothing will likely be that clean again-It was open less than a week when we went.
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Ok. Seriously still need to make it there.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
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OMG...there were a couple of times I walked into that daycare and the smell of the bleach was enough to knock you over. I still have guilt wondering how often my son was sitting in those fumes. My husband has become somewhat of a weirdo when it comes to germs the last 10 years...he's not a germophobe per se, but he insists on using antibacterial soap and all that other junk no matter how many times I tell him that regular soap and warm water do basically the same thing as long as you wash long enough.
Antibacterial hand soap actually, in situations other than hospitals and doctor's offices, does more harm than good. It kills off too much good bacteria on your hands. You're right, regular soap is better.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
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My son has intermittent asthma because the daycare he was in until he was about 2 used too much bleach - so not good for the lungs! (And I'm right there with ya, @MinnieM123!! Who has time for that?!?)
He may have developed asthma with or without the bleach, who knows. But yes, I have asthma and I cannot be around bleach. My mom every now and then will use bleach in the house, but she does it when I'm not home and opens the windows afterward.

I use a cleaner that's one part alcohol, one part vinegar, and one part water. It does the job, and it does not trigger my asthma. We use it on the majority of surfaces in our house. The exception is the shower (Scrubbing Bubbles shower cleaner is fine) and of course we have a toilet bowl cleaner, and we'll use Swiffer dusters, but that's it. It's also cheaper, so it's a win win.
 

betty rose

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Much to my surprise I was just told (unofficially) by my Doctor that she thinks I might have Spinal Degeneration. Nice words for "man are you old".
Have you lost height? That's a big indication of the degeneration. That and spine pain. It takes a few years before the pain sends you signal's . I'm glad your Dr. found this early. You may have to have a margarita a day, like me!;););)
 

betty rose

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I've had migraines for years, and I've always taken Excedrin (which has asprin) to control it. But they've gotten worse, to the point where I'm taking medicine at least once a week, and it's not always working. And that six day migraine was just absurd.

I'm not super worried about a stroke at my age, but it is something to consider when I get older, especially since my grandfather had one that was basically the beginning of the end. I'll have to discuss them in detail the next time I see my one uncle. He's a neurosurgeon. I'd be interested to get his take.
Please let me know. This information came from a G.P.
 
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betty rose

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Actually, if that is what it is, it is affecting me right now. Over the last three weeks I have been unable to walk any distance without a lot of pain in what feels like my hip joint, but, apparently isn't. Nerve situations. I'm hoping that something can be done about it soon before lethargy takes over and I hit the rocking chair and shawl stage way to early.
That's why I have a margarita every afternoon, it takes care of the pain, and I make through the evening. This time when hubby and I go to Disney I will be taking a walking cane. It's all a part of this thing that is the aging process. Don't go down without a fight. I'm talking to my Dr. about pain meds. But, I'm not sure she will subscribe them. It's worth a try, at least for a trip with a lot of walking.
 

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