The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Figgy1

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Sympathy like. One of my friends died of a heart attack in the waiting room at the doctor's office waiting to be seen because he felt a bit "off". He was 35. He was on vacation in Canada, and because he wasn't a patient of that doctor, he had to wait until they could fit him in....he was tired and didn't feel well, but didn't know how serious it was, so he didn't go to the ER. It definitely happens.
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Figgy1

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Good morning I hope you had a good weekend. With the wacky weather coming In I'm heading out early to run my errands. My ds only found 2 pairs of pants that fit. It seems he's an uncommon size. So it's back out today in the other direction hoping to have a bit of better luck. he seems to have grown a bit more than I thought:(:(:( he blew right through the size I was hoping he'd hand me down:(:(:(oh well at least I'll get all his sweats after they've been sanitized. Wacky weather is putting it mildly it's about 5 degrees with a windchill just below 0, later today we're supposed to get snow 1-6 inches then turn to ice then rain tomorrow and then back to ice then snow tomorrow night. seeing I have errands to run it's going to be an easy dinner tonight GLT, groundhog, lettuce and tomato.
 

Songbird76

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We are ELCA. Hubby actually has jumped between the two types. He was ELCA Lutheran growing up and then went to a Missouri synod at college, and then went to a ELCA seminary. I don't think there would be any more jumping around now. The MSL church in town closed down a few years ago and we had quite a few of their members join our church. It isn't like there are a ton of theological differences between the two but somethings were different enough for some of the people to adjust to.
Yeah, I think most of my mother's problem with the ELCA was the communion issue because they have open communion and my mom was against that. But over here, there's no separate denomination, it's just Lutheran. Open communion never bothered me, and the Lutheran church here does open. Or...at least we did when we still had a Lutheran church where I live, but they merged with the Protestant Church of the Netherlands about...8 years ago? It was after DS was born...he was the last child to be baptized into the Lutheran church, the week before they closed down. I think it also depends on the pastor and how he approaches it. We had one pastor in my home town who was very negative about the ELCA...we didn't have an ELCA church in our town and there was a family who moved in from North Dakota who had been ELCA and my mom (next door neighbors) invited them to our church. They joined and the daughter was at a bible study...she was only like 15, and a couple of the members ganged up on her and told her that she was lucky she moved to our town so she'd be saved, because the ELCA beliefs were heresy and she would see it after she had been there for a while. The girl never came back to our church, and I certainly can't blame her. But it pretty much comes down to the fact that the pastor had taught that and so, trusting in the leader's biblical training, etc, the members passed that message on. Very very sad. But I've never really understood the differences between MSL, ELCA, and ALC. I know they all branched off from each other, and that ELCA and ALC offer open communion, but beyond that, I have no idea what the theological differences are.
 

Songbird76

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Never had to read Moby, and never had a desire to. I guess I'm not missing anything. I used to love the Sweet Valley High books as well. Did you know that the author wrote a new one for adults? It continues the story of the girls now into adulthood, it is just one book though. It came out a couple years ago.

I just discovered Sandra Brown, just finished a newer book called Friction. It was very good, I'm going to go back read some of her older stuff. When you mentioned Sweet Valley High, that made me think of Judy Blume, she was a good young adult novelist who has done some good adult stuff too.
No! I didn't know that! Guess I will have to look it up! Did you read it? Was it good?
I never read Judy Blume...I think that might have been when there was all the controversy about her books, in particular Are You There, God, it's Me, Margaret. I've kind of always wanted to go back and read them and see what all the fuss is about.
If you've never read Nora Roberts and you like Sandra Brown, you might try some Nora...they are very similar..in fact some of the books I get mixed up as to which one wrote what. I could come close to filling a book case just with those 2 authors if I only did single rows, but I have so many books that I have to double it up and stack some on top, and I already have 2 whole bookcases of my own, just MY books.
I'm sure Moby Dick appeals to some people...it's a classic for a reason, right? I just HATED it. I kept falling asleep, and having to go back and read things over, but I just could not absorb it, even after reading 4 or 5 times. And it's very wordy....lots of TELLING instead of SHOWING. But some people apparently love it. Sometimes I wonder if I hadn't HAD to read it for school if I would have like it...but then, I read Wuthering Heights in school having loved Jane Eyre (different Bronte sister, but always compared) and couldn't follow it. I tried twice in later years to get through it and still can't, so I figure it's best relegated to the "Nope, not for me" section. Perhaps if a copy of Moby Dick landed in my lap for free, I might start it and see if it is really as boring as I remember it being, but I won't waste any money on it, just in case.
 

Songbird76

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Yes, it is sad. I wish they could just do their jobs to represent the people and try to make our country a better place instead of addressing their own agendas. But that is never the way it works or has worked. Ok enough politics....:(:cautious:
Isn't there some saying about how the best leaders are those who have the mantel thrust unwillingly upon them and find they are equal to the challenge, not those who seek the power themselves?
 

Songbird76

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True. My godfather passed at 33 from an unknown birth defect in his heart. Scalia's death at 79 doesn't surprise me as much as the people who were traveling with him and staying in the resort unit with him.

My Mom is the same age as Scalia was. I can't imagine vacationing with her, her indicating she wasn't well and went off to bed and because she didn't get up in the morning leaving without her or minimum checking in on her before I left. That is the part I can't wrap my brain around in Scalia's passing, not the passing itself.
Well, I read that someone DID go check on him, but it sounds like most of the group had already left by then? I can see it...they didn't mention anything about family being there. And if these were just hunting buddies, they might not know him well enough to realize they should check on him. My dad will be 83 in a month...about a year and a half ago, he had some friends in to go hunting on his ranch, like he has every year. He took a group out and started feeling funny, lost feeling in his left side, his speech went wonky, and they asked him if they should take him to the doctor...he said no, it had happened before and was always over in about half an hour or so, and sometimes his left leg was a bit slow to recover, but other than that he felt fine. The hunting buddies said ok, and went about their hunting. A few weeks later, he gets a bloody nose that lasts for 4 days and he almost blacks out. Finally gets someone to come and pick him up and take him to the doctor. Treated and released, and no one mentions these episodes he's been having where his left side goes numb and he can't walk or talk or write, etc. A few days later, he's at the bank and has another episode and the lady at the bank doesn't ask him what he wants, she just calls an ambulance...he'd been having mini-strokes for 6 months and no one ever paid much attention even if they were with him when he had one. It's not that they didn't care, just that they didn't realize how serious it was. If Scalia went to bed saying he didn't feel well, how are they to know that "I don't feel well" isn't just "I think I'm coming down with the flu that's going around"? And what's the first thing we tell people when they think they are coming down with something? Go get some rest..the best thing for being sick is to sleep. So if they all thought he obviously needed the rest, the last thing they are going to do is go wake him up for recreation. They probably all thought "Let him sleep....he can come with us tomorrow." and asked someone at the hotel or wherever to go and check on him if he wasn't up by such and such a time.
 

Songbird76

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You pretty much nailed it. Just demonstrated how ridiculous politics have become. While I'd miss my oven if I lived by you at times like this I kinda envy the distance you have from all the nonsense from supposedly the best candidates within our borders. Lordie. :facepalm:
Even over here, I can't get away from it completely...I still see it ALL over facebook. But I don't envy those of you living in the middle of it. Yikes. But....who said these are the best candidates within the borders? Those are just the ones who volunteered.
 

Songbird76

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The snow isn't heavy but the plow came down and the road and the road is shiny. Cars are smooshing all over the place.

Florida Florida Florida
It's slicker than snot outside here. It snowed most of the day here yesterday. We went swimming, and there's a part of the pool that goes outside...that pool is heated, so even in cold weather, it's open...and of course as soon as the kids saw it was snowing, they wanted to go outside to swim, because what's cooler than swimming in the SNOW????
 

MinnieM123

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Plus, it has been very rare that I've ever had to make a TSSFFBR through ice or snow...! ;)

You can still wear your flip flops during your TSSFFBR up here, too! Just attach these over your flip flops and you'll be good to go! :p

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Goofyernmost

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It's slicker than snot outside here. It snowed most of the day here yesterday. We went swimming, and there's a part of the pool that goes outside...that pool is heated, so even in cold weather, it's open...and of course as soon as the kids saw it was snowing, they wanted to go outside to swim, because what's cooler than swimming in the SNOW????
As they grow older they will soon realize that what is better then swimming in the snow, is swimming with no snow within 3000 miles. Snow is not a four letter word for nothing.
 

betty rose

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Earthquakes always are a frightening thing. Scalia on the other hand that is just too creepity. A 79 year old goes to sleep early saying he isn't feeling well. He doesn't get up to go hunting with the buddies and they just go without him and found later dead. Who doesn't check in on someone who is ill before they leave. Then again Scalia was a headstrong man, maybe they didn't know how checking on him would go over with him.
I find the timing of his death, just a little too creepy for me. I don't think anyone was behind it, just that the timing is so errie.
 
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