The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
Yeah, I could see the competitiveness being a problem, but I don't think that will be as much of an issue here. High school in the US is set up that way...you compete for scholarships and for honors and awards, like valedictorian, etc...none of that exists over here. You're not competing to get a spot at an Ivy League college or to get a particular scholarship. There's nothing at stake, and nothing to gain by being the best...so what would you be competing for? The only one you have to compete with is yourself.
And as for the mixed bag, it sounds like the Korean student was a pretty bright kid anyway so you were both advanced...and of course everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. It's nice it worked out for both of you that you could help each other and each benefit from it. But imagine being partnered with someone who was even worse at the subject than you were. Yikes. I'm actually really jealous of DD that she seems to be good at EVERYTHING...except PE. But she's top of her class at math, Language, history, science, spelling....EVERYTHING. And she does Spanish on Duolingo instead of English with the rest of the class, because she's already fluent in English. There doesn't seem to be a single subject so far in which she isn't getting top grades. Which is why she hates group projects. She was SOOOO embarrassed when their class went to one of the high schools for a morning and did lessons there to see what a high school day might be like and she was in a group with 2 kids from her class who didn't follow directions. They were supposed to build a bridge and then test how much weight it would hold and she was trying to get them to look at the example bridge and read the tips, and these 2 kids basically just took all the materials and slapped them together without even thinking about how they could make it sturdy...their bridge collapsed with the first weights put on it and she KNEW it wasn't a good bridge, but couldn't get them to put any effort in it. Had it been an actual project for a real class, she'd have failed. She had no choice in who she wanted to work with and the other kids just didn't care. She was frustrated and embarrassed. That probably wouldn't have happened if all the kids were the same level. She can't wait for high school when she's not stuck in that environment anymore.
I can see how that would be frustrating. I never had to deal with that here. All of the kids did care about their grades to some degree, and most of the work was independent anyway.

Hope all works out well for he
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
We're going to focus on experience gifts for our daughter and nieces and nephews, and the adults are just getting treats.

This is going to sound really bad.... but growing up dirt poor makes it really difficult to curb spending with my own kid. I walk through the store and see something she would like that I would have LOVED as a kid, and I grab it for her. ESPECIALLY if it is on sale. Then I don't want to spoil her, so I keep it until her birthday or Christmas or Easter. But the problem is that I've been doing this year round, so when those holidays come, she's spoiled anyway with a mountain of gifts. She's turning three in a month, so I have to stop doing this now when she doesn't realize what's going on. In another year, she'll start expecting it, and then I really will have spoiled her.

So I'm starting with the not mindlessly browsing sales at the Disney Store, and not aimlessly walking around Target for two hours when I just need a break from life. I've had a few slip ups, but overall I'm doing pretty good.
You're not that unusual. My dad grew up in a single parent home and had to work to save his money for what he wanted, and oh boy, could he spoil me as a kid. Like you, he was aware of it and just made sure to be careful, and my parents also raised me to be hard working and responsible. It also got easier for him to say no to me the older I got. Now he's like, "How much money ya got?" :joyfull:

The only thing I could never talk him into was a Barbie dream house...if I have girls; they are getting one of those. :hilarious:
 

ajrwdwgirl

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Ask @MinnieM123 . She loves shoveling snow for the exercise. I don't mind it, and I would be willing to help, but I am a tad far away. By the time I got there, you probably wouldn't need help anymore.

Thanks although I'm sure there would still be stuff when you get here.;). I shoveled for an hour this morning and got it fairly clear. The stuff at the end of the driveway that had piled up because of the plow was really tough. I didn't get it cleared as wide as I would have liked but it is wider than my car so it is ok for now. Hopefully hubs get cleared to walk without the boot at the dr. today and he can help when we get back. Our mailbox is really encased with a high pile of snow, so until we get that cleared the mail won't get delivered. Oh well it is mostly junk anyway.:)
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
Not looking nope not going to do it. I'm doing the one year no clothes buying challenge anything I want I have to make
Haha. Well, I do need more short sleeve blouses for work, so I'll need to go shopping again at some point. I retired a few blouses I've had since high school, and my company changed their dress code so you can wear jeans every day unless you have something important, so once it warms up, I'll need more than four short sleeve blouses.
 

Figgy1

Premium Member
After an hour of shoveling my arms are sure sore. If my body is able to get in and out of the tub, I might have a Basin night tonight.

How are you feeling today? Resting I hope. Pop in some Disney movies and relax!
Not too bad just VERY tired. I almost put something to be heated in the fridge so nap, movie(s) and maybe a little sewing. I'm glad it's raining so I'm not tempted to go walking:hilarious:
 

Songbird76

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Depending on the port and the length of your cruise you get between 8 and 12 hours in port and in the evening you're back onboard sailing to your next stop. Sometimes you pull into port early morning and sometimes afternoon. If It's a day with no stop, they offer special activities, entertainment and dining only available on sea days. On Carnival sea days are the only times they have the outdoor bbq buffet. So good! :hungry:
Ok, so if you want to spend more than a couple of days in a particular city or area, you shouldn't do a cruise? There are SOOOO many places I want to go, and a cruise would hit a lot of them on one trip, but then I wouldn't really have a whole lot of time to explore. I just need to win big in the lottery so I can travel everywhere I want to go instead of working. :hilarious:
 

DryerLintFan

Premium Member
I had the same thing! Although most of the stuff I got for my kids was little things...a Princess toothbrush, or a cheap set of fairy wings. But we always did Christmas at my In-laws' and it was hard because my BIL always spent WAY more on his son than we did on our kids....he spent more than we spent on both our kids put together, but our kids had a bunch of little things and he always got his son one really big thing. Like, he got his son a PS4 when they first came out...that thing was like 400 Euros! And then he's upset at us because our kids are still opening presents and his kid has nothing else to open. So we were supposed to cut down on the number of things our kids got so he didn't look cheap! :rolleyes: But my kids do not expect big ticket items...anything like tablets and game consoles that they have, they have bought themselves. They've saved allowance and birthday/Christmas money for a few years and picked out what they wanted. DS when he was 5, asked for money instead of presents because he wanted to buy a PS4. He saved for 3 years and then settled on a SWITCH instead of PS. You might start a sort of chore thing with your DD already...like picking up her toys, and helping to make the bed, or helping to set the table....little things she can do, and then she gets a sticker for each chore. Maybe when she gets a full sticker chart, she gets to pick out a small toy at the dollar store...just to get her into the routine of earning the fun things. Then you aren't really spoiling her, she's earning it, and you still get to give her all the things you wish you had had when you were little.

We've decided to start her on an allowance next month when she turns three. She does really well with delayed gratification and takes a lot of joy in buying things herself, so we're hopeful she's ready.

We will NOT be connecting the money to chores though. She's expected to do her chores just like we are. If you live in this house, you need to contribute. I don't get paid to do the dishes, so she will not either. We'll likely give her extra money if she wants to do things outside of her chores. Or I read a fun idea where you let them negotiate a price with you to solve a problem they noticed (i.e. the car is dirty, I can wash it for $7 which is a dollar less than the car wash).

You're not that unusual. My dad grew up in a single parent home and had to work to save his money for what he wanted, and oh boy, could he spoil me as a kid. Like you, he was aware of it and just made sure to be careful, and my parents also raised me to be hard working and responsible. It also got easier for him to say no to me the older I got. Now he's like, "How much money ya got?" :joyfull:

The only thing I could never talk him into was a Barbie dream house...if I have girls; they are getting one of those. :hilarious:

This is actually a prime example of my problem, here......

About a year ago, I found a Cinderella's Castle Barbie dollhouse on Craigslist brand new in box for $45, so of course, I bought it. I was going to get a couple of dolls for it and give it to her for Christmas, even though we were also planning a trip to Disney World. So then I found the Disney Barbies on mega sale, and bought all the available ones I could find. Then the Disney Store was having a sale on their dolls, so I bought some of the princes. So, so far, we've got a dream house and all the princesses and some princes (and two horses) in the basement. Time to stop, right?

After Halloween, I went to a few different stores to get items on clearance for a dress up closet. So now she's got a Disney trip, a Barbie dreamhouse and a ton of barbies, and an entire dress up closet. Then black friday happens, and we can add hot wheels tracks and more cars and a new baby doll and a couple baby doll things to that, plus some books, puzzles, and clothing items. Okay.... it's okay.... I can shift some things......

So for Christmas she got everything but the barbie dream house and the princess barbies. I'm saving those for her birthday. But then I decided I'm going to redo her room for her birthday. I ordered a tomboy and painted her room gender neutral. She's a princess though, so we're making her a princess room. The castle dollhouse fits the theme, but once again, she's getting too many big presents. Plus she's getting a pool party with a lot of her friends. And we're sending ice cream sundaes to school so she can celebrate there. And all this is in addition to the toys and gifts from family.

You see what I mean? I have to fix this before she's old enough to start feeling entitled to it. I get this stuff year round for obscenely great prices, but it just adds up.
 

Songbird76

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We've decided to start her on an allowance next month when she turns three. She does really well with delayed gratification and takes a lot of joy in buying things herself, so we're hopeful she's ready.

We will NOT be connecting the money to chores though. She's expected to do her chores just like we are. If you live in this house, you need to contribute. I don't get paid to do the dishes, so she will not either. We'll likely give her extra money if she wants to do things outside of her chores. Or I read a fun idea where you let them negotiate a price with you to solve a problem they noticed (i.e. the car is dirty, I can wash it for $7 which is a dollar less than the car wash).



This is actually a prime example of my problem, here......

About a year ago, I found a Cinderella's Castle Barbie dollhouse on Craigslist brand new in box for $45, so of course, I bought it. I was going to get a couple of dolls for it and give it to her for Christmas, even though we were also planning a trip to Disney World. So then I found the Disney Barbies on mega sale, and bought all the available ones I could find. Then the Disney Store was having a sale on their dolls, so I bought some of the princes. So, so far, we've got a dream house and all the princesses and some princes (and two horses) in the basement. Time to stop, right?

After Halloween, I went to a few different stores to get items on clearance for a dress up closet. So now she's got a Disney trip, a Barbie dreamhouse and a ton of barbies, and an entire dress up closet. Then black friday happens, and we can add hot wheels tracks and more cars and a new baby doll and a couple baby doll things to that, plus some books, puzzles, and clothing items. Okay.... it's okay.... I can shift some things......

So for Christmas she got everything but the barbie dream house and the princess barbies. I'm saving those for her birthday. But then I decided I'm going to redo her room for her birthday. I ordered a tomboy and painted her room gender neutral. She's a princess though, so we're making her a princess room. The castle dollhouse fits the theme, but once again, she's getting too many big presents. Plus she's getting a pool party with a lot of her friends. And we're sending ice cream sundaes to school so she can celebrate there. And all this is in addition to the toys and gifts from family.

You see what I mean? I have to fix this before she's old enough to start feeling entitled to it. I get this stuff year round for obscenely great prices, but it just adds up.
Does she have grandparents? Maybe you could discuss it with them and let them give her some of the stuff so it's not all coming from you? That was my ace in the hole...my in-laws always want to get the kids something great, but they don't know what, so they would inevitably ask me and I could just give half the stuff to them, they pay me back for it, the kids still get great stuff, but not all of it from me. More spread out. So say, you do her room, and grandma and grandpa can give her the dreamhouse, and an aunt or uncle could get her one of the dolls and you can either save the other dolls for another occassion, or if someone else asks for an idea, pawn one of them off on them. They don't have to shop, and she still gets the thing without being spoiled.
 

DryerLintFan

Premium Member
Does she have grandparents? Maybe you could discuss it with them and let them give her some of the stuff so it's not all coming from you? That was my ace in the hole...my in-laws always want to get the kids something great, but they don't know what, so they would inevitably ask me and I could just give half the stuff to them, they pay me back for it, the kids still get great stuff, but not all of it from me. More spread out. So say, you do her room, and grandma and grandpa can give her the dreamhouse, and an aunt or uncle could get her one of the dolls and you can either save the other dolls for another occassion, or if someone else asks for an idea, pawn one of them off on them. They don't have to shop, and she still gets the thing without being spoiled.


My in-laws like shopping for her too much. My family prefers to give her stuff she doesn't need rather than stuff I suggest. This year for her birthday though, they're going to give her cash, so we can start her with the concept of money. So that's really good!
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
We've decided to start her on an allowance next month when she turns three. She does really well with delayed gratification and takes a lot of joy in buying things herself, so we're hopeful she's ready.

We will NOT be connecting the money to chores though. She's expected to do her chores just like we are. If you live in this house, you need to contribute. I don't get paid to do the dishes, so she will not either. We'll likely give her extra money if she wants to do things outside of her chores. Or I read a fun idea where you let them negotiate a price with you to solve a problem they noticed (i.e. the car is dirty, I can wash it for $7 which is a dollar less than the car wash).



This is actually a prime example of my problem, here......

About a year ago, I found a Cinderella's Castle Barbie dollhouse on Craigslist brand new in box for $45, so of course, I bought it. I was going to get a couple of dolls for it and give it to her for Christmas, even though we were also planning a trip to Disney World. So then I found the Disney Barbies on mega sale, and bought all the available ones I could find. Then the Disney Store was having a sale on their dolls, so I bought some of the princes. So, so far, we've got a dream house and all the princesses and some princes (and two horses) in the basement. Time to stop, right?

After Halloween, I went to a few different stores to get items on clearance for a dress up closet. So now she's got a Disney trip, a Barbie dreamhouse and a ton of barbies, and an entire dress up closet. Then black friday happens, and we can add hot wheels tracks and more cars and a new baby doll and a couple baby doll things to that, plus some books, puzzles, and clothing items. Okay.... it's okay.... I can shift some things......

So for Christmas she got everything but the barbie dream house and the princess barbies. I'm saving those for her birthday. But then I decided I'm going to redo her room for her birthday. I ordered a tomboy and painted her room gender neutral. She's a princess though, so we're making her a princess room. The castle dollhouse fits the theme, but once again, she's getting too many big presents. Plus she's getting a pool party with a lot of her friends. And we're sending ice cream sundaes to school so she can celebrate there. And all this is in addition to the toys and gifts from family.

You see what I mean? I have to fix this before she's old enough to start feeling entitled to it. I get this stuff year round for obscenely great prices, but it just adds up.
Well, this is coming from a non parent, but it sounds like you're doing a good job with her. She has a lot of things, sure, but you're also already having her do chores? I mean, come on, if you were really spoiling her, you wouldn't be saying that she needs to do chores. A parent who truly spoils their child does everything for them, allows them to act like a brat, and buys them everything regardless of how ttheir child behaves. It sounds like you've got a good girl and want to give her an awesome childhood and are teaching her responsibility at the same time, and as long as she understands that she gets things because Mommy and Daddy want to do it and not just because she asks, it's fine.

I think there's a faulty view of parenting that says that children must be deprived in order to be responsible, and I think that's simply not true. I think you can give your child a lot of amazing experiences and awesome toys and still raise a responsible adult as long as it's coupled with responsibility. By the same token, I think it's possible for parents who have not as much to raise completely bratty adults.

Also, cut yourself some slack. I mean, parenting is a hard job. No one knows how to do it perfectly. If your daughter at the end of the day is happy, healthy, well loved, and not a brat, then you're doing your job right. You can deal with other issues as they come up.

It also sounds like your style both in what you give your kid and teaching responsibility was what my parents had as their mentality, and I am 99% sure I turned into a responsible adult. The 1% uncertainty is for those times I've left the house and can't remember whether or not I turned off the flat iron.
 

DryerLintFan

Premium Member
Well, this is coming from a non parent, but it sounds like you're doing a good job with her. She has a lot of things, sure, but you're also already having her do chores? I mean, come on, if you were really spoiling her, you wouldn't be saying that she needs to do chores. A parent who truly spoils their child does everything for them, allows them to act like a brat, and buys them everything regardless of how ttheir child behaves. It sounds like you've got a good girl and want to give her an awesome childhood and are teaching her responsibility at the same time, and as long as she understands that she gets things because Mommy and Daddy want to do it and not just because she asks, it's fine.

I think there's a faulty view of parenting that says that children must be deprived in order to be responsible, and I think that's simply not true. I think you can give your child a lot of amazing experiences and awesome toys and still raise a responsible adult as long as it's coupled with responsibility. By the same token, I think it's possible for parents who have not as much to raise completely bratty adults.

Also, cut yourself some slack. I mean, parenting is a hard job. No one knows how to do it perfectly. If your daughter at the end of the day is happy, healthy, well loved, and not a brat, then you're doing your job right. You can deal with other issues as they come up.

It also sounds like your style both in what you give your kid and teaching responsibility was what my parents had as their mentality, and I am 99% sure I turned into a responsible adult. The 1% uncertainty is for those times I've left the house and can't remember whether or not I turned off the flat iron.

Thank you! You're very kind!

She does age appropriate chores (empty dishwasher, set the table, help cook, pick up toys, feed the dogs, clean up messes, etc. And she's the world's worst sweeper but she tries).

I don't want her to be deprived, but I do want her to understand that some people don't have it as good as we do. And if we want to keep having it this good, all three of us need to continue to work hard. She's clearly a Disney princess..... I want her to be a Tiana, not a Charlotte (Lottie).

Giving her everything her little heart desires will make her a Lottie. I'm hoping this allowance concept will be a happy medium for us. She can still get everything she wants, but she'll have to save for it (learning valuable money skills in the process)
 

DryerLintFan

Premium Member
I'm not good at doing nothing. I got the dress I cut out last week sewn up, found Dory and organized a pantry shelf the boys messed up.

I'm not good at doing nothing either. Last time I had a day off, I spent it painting a bedroom and reorganizing the office. I would pay good money to have a day where I did nothing, and had the ability to actually follow through with that, LOL
 

Cesar R M

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Depending on the port and the length of your cruise you get between 8 and 12 hours in port and in the evening you're back onboard sailing to your next stop. Sometimes you pull into port early morning and sometimes afternoon. If It's a day with no stop, they offer special activities, entertainment and dining only available on sea days. On Carnival sea days are the only times they have the outdoor bbq buffet. So good! :hungry:
8 to 12 hours is awesome.

Royal Caribbean on average is like.. 6 hours per port (some even less, like San Juan. Which is a pitiful 5 hours stop)
 

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