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SteveBrickNJ

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Many I'm sure won't care, but to those who might be interested.....I've been a Philadelphia Eagles fan since age 10. I recently downloaded an app for Philadelphia's ABC affiliate 6ABC. They just posted a video of Vikings fans who decided to dress in purple and gather next to the Rocky statue on the front steps of the Philadelphia Art Museum. I'll post a 30 second video just below.


I wonder if those Vikings fans are still feeling it was worth it to spend the big bucks attending a NFC Championship in Philly? o_O
The game is not over though. They could still come back.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
The last grade depends on what level of high school you go to. VMBO is the lowest level, and that is 4 years. HAVO is next and is 5 years. VWO is the highest and is 6 years, so VMBO is like going until sophomore year, and VWO is like our high schools in the US, except it's like an AP high school...advanced placement. There are 3 levels of VMBO...Basis, Kader, and (T)heoretical. T is the highest of those and that's basically the equivalent of US high schools...it's the "average".
Only about 10% of kids get approval for VWO, about 20% for HAVO. In DD's class, the majority of the kids got Basis/Kader, a couple of kids got Havo, and we THINK there are 3 with VWO, DD included. So she'll go 6 years and go on to University at 18.
With DS, we don't know what will happen. His school could recommend that he stay in special education, or that he go back to a regular school for high school. It depends on how much he grows while he's there. And then it will also depend on his level. His current school goes all the way up to HAVO level, but if he gets VWO he'd have to go somewhere else. So if they say he's ready for a regular school, and he's HAVO level, he'd go to one of the 3 schools that we're looking at for DD. If they say he's HAVO level and he needs to stay in special, he'd stay at his current school, but in a different building, possibly right by our house in the old building where he had elementary school until this year.....they took over the building when our school merged and got the new building. If they say he is VWO, whether he's supposed to stay in Special or go back to regular, he'd have to go to a different school. We just don't know at this point. I think if he stays in special Ed, he could do VWO, but if they want him in regular, I can't see him handling it well at this point. He COULD do HAVO at his current school and then stream into VWO when he finishes HAVO. You always have the option of moving on to the next level when you finish a lower level, it just takes an extra year. So we'll just have to wait and see with him. There was a case a couple of years ago where a kid got VWO level, but couldn't function in a regular school, so they made some sort of arrangement with one of the regular schools that he gets that material, but it's under the umbrella of the special education, but apparently that's a very particular case and not something we should plan on for DS. But who knows.
Ugh. Sounds like a headache. It was just simpler here to know you went to the schools closest and then they placed you in classes accordingly. My brother goes to my alma mater even though he's in special education and I was in the advanced classes. Although that was complicated too, in some ways. Some of my classes were true APs, where you took the test for college credit, some were what we called GT (gifted and talented) which from the perspective of our weighted GPA meant the same as AP, but no exam, and a lot of them were honors. Most kids were in honors at the very least for classes. At least you didn't have to make any major choice of where to go to school until college, though.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
The 2018-2019 Broadway series coming to the Hippodrome in Baltimore just came out. Les Miserables, The King and I, Fiddler on the Roof, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, and Anastasia are on the list and...um, oh, yes. Hamilton is on there list as well.

My mom and I went on the list for a ticket plan. Should be hearing in March what's available. I've been dying to see Les Mis, she wants to see Fiddler, we both love the King and I, and Hamilton...come on now.
 

ajrwdwgirl

Premium Member
I wonder if those Vikings fans are still feeling it was worth it to spend the big bucks attending a NFC Championship in Philly? o_O
The game is not over though. They could still come back.

Well the game is turning out as I expected. The Vikes had a good run this season. I'm sure some of the fans that went to the game still think it was worth it. Although from reports I read and saw online the Philly fans stayed true to form with their "welcome" of visiting fans.
 

SteveBrickNJ

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Well the game is turning out as I expected. The Vikes had a good run this season. I'm sure some of the fans that went to the game still think it was worth it. Although from reports I read and saw online the Philly fans stayed true to form with their "welcome" of visiting fans.
I am not aware of any bad behavior by the fans. Like you, I just watched on tv and all the focus was on the game. Anyway, Vikings fans are cool.
 

Songbird76

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Sounds mighty complicated compared to the school set up here, but it is probably easy and normal for Netherlanders. :D
Well, they are used to it, though when my husband was DD's age, VMBO didn't exist as it is now....it was called MAVO and it was all one level. Now they divided into the 3 levels because some kids just couldn't keep up and some kids just aren't book learners. So only the T is a standard book oriented learning environment. Basis and Kader are more of a hands-on learning, and choices are more limited for what you can make a career out of. You can't really become a doctor or lawyer or a high level engineer because you have to go to University to do that, and you can't go to University unless you complete VWO. You can move up after you finish a level...so you could complete VMBO and then go on to HAVO, but it will take an extra year, and then you can move on to VWO once you complete Havo, again taking an extra year, but the chance that you would be able to do the course work of VWO is slim. So career paths are limited, but realistically, even in the US, a kid might want to become a doctor, but if he can't pass the classes, it's not going to happen. This just gives them a guideline sooner and helps the kid get on the path that fits them best. But yeah, DH has done all this...the testing and the school advice, open houses, choosing a school. He did VWO, too. I, on the other hand, have had to study about the Dutch school system to understand how it works. For the past 3 years, I've been googling everything to see what everything means, and scores on the national test, etc. It IS really complicated, but it DOES make sense and I think it's good that they divide the kids up so you don't have some kids who can't keep up and some kids who are bored....teachers aren't teaching to the average, they are teaching to a specific level. It's good for everyone.
 

Songbird76

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Ugh. Sounds like a headache. It was just simpler here to know you went to the schools closest and then they placed you in classes accordingly. My brother goes to my alma mater even though he's in special education and I was in the advanced classes. Although that was complicated too, in some ways. Some of my classes were true APs, where you took the test for college credit, some were what we called GT (gifted and talented) which from the perspective of our weighted GPA meant the same as AP, but no exam, and a lot of them were honors. Most kids were in honors at the very least for classes. At least you didn't have to make any major choice of where to go to school until college, though.
Yeah, it's much simpler in the US, but I actually like the system here better. You know how you HATED group projects because not everyone is motivated, etc? Because schools are divided here, you are only in classes with YOUR level, so it's all like-minded kids at the same level. You aren't in a group with a kid who is content to get a D if you are a high achiever. And also, you won't be bored waiting for the other kids to catch up, or strugging to keep up with the kids who are faster...everyone is at the same level you are, so you fit in and the teacher can teach at your speed.
The one thing I DON'T like is that some of the smaller towns might not offer every level. DH had to go to Arnhem to do VWO....so he had to ride his bike from Huissen to Arnhem every day, and it's not like it's a huge distance...only a few miles, but still. We're lucky that our town has 2 schools for VMBO and 3 schools for MAVO (VMBO-T) through VWO. And the one DD is wanting to go to is only a 5 -10 minute walk from our house. She can get there by bike faster than she gets to her current elementary school. But, her best friend also has VWO advice and is having trouble deciding between Gymnasium (VWO plus latin and Greek) and dual language immersion. None of the schools offer BOTH. There's a school in Arnhem that has both, but she'd have to take a train to school and back every single day, by herself, at age 12....and it takes about an hour. That would terrify me...sending my 12 year old alone on a train to the city every day. DH says no way would we let DD do that. She's mature for her age, but yikes. So that's the only downside to it.
 

Songbird76

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The 2018-2019 Broadway series coming to the Hippodrome in Baltimore just came out. Les Miserables, The King and I, Fiddler on the Roof, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, and Anastasia are on the list and...um, oh, yes. Hamilton is on there list as well.

My mom and I went on the list for a ticket plan. Should be hearing in March what's available. I've been dying to see Les Mis, she wants to see Fiddler, we both love the King and I, and Hamilton...come on now.
Awesome! My cousin was the casting director for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. She works for Telsey. She just one some sort of award I had never heard of (Artio or something?) for...I think it was Come from Away. Man I'd love to see all those musicals!!
 

Figgy1

Premium Member
Hello!

So so I guess, she's getting worse in childish tactics unfortunately. When noone sees her, she can pretty much do anything. But if she sees someone, she just asks for absolutely everything. Even asking "what food it is" even when its obvious a chicken piece.

Or saying things are "too spicy" (chili wise, when there is no chile in the dishes for her).. and when noone is looking, she puts a ton of chili sauce with no complain.

And her obsession with the iguanas is getting worse. Everything must be about iguanas most of the day.

So her day is pretty much..

Wake up
Shower (if she wants.. she puts a huge fuss with random excuses to dont shower lol)
breakfast
Church Mass for hours (or she goes out to the garden to complain about the Iguanas)
Then Lunch
Then more church mass in the TV or iguanas.
Nap..
More TV about church or out watching iguanas.
Dinner
More TV.
Sleep.. repeat
Continuing prayers and pixie dust for you and your mom.
 

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