The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

[Figgy1]

@figmentfan423 Further to the point that the cats are nuts...

I switched Belle over to another wet food. I started giving her and Jasmine the same wet food, tuna flavored. Well, Belle kept turning her nose up at it. So I thought, well, maybe she doesn't like the tuna flavor, and I ordered chicken flavor. I put the tuna in front of Jasmine and the chicken in front of Belle...they switched foods. Tonight, I gave Belle the tuna and Jasmine the chicken...Belle ate the tuna with no issue. So she just wants the option of which food, and Jasmine gets second pick. Princess cat.

The joy of having children

 

[Figgy1]

He looks young. But considering how old he was in the 60s...but then he also doesn't look too different from when he made the Trek movies. In fact, Patrick Stewart looks no different than when he was on TNG. Methinks Starfleet Captains drink from the fountain of youth.

Toupee, girdle, botox, fillers, nip and tuck, make up, picture in attic

 

[Figgy1]

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It is History. The History and Customs of Religion. Yeah, I wrestle with the wearing any turning any religious item into a fashion statement. My thoughts are for the 'origins' or customs for woman and woman really not having choices even out of my era. It was required to be educated in Catholic Church for me to wear a beanie atop my head 6 out of 7 days a week. I was required to be veiled for my First Communion and had to be veiled to be confirmed. I also had to wear gloves to mass. So basically Saturdays were the only day I was not required to have my head covered. And no I didn't enjoy it nor did I grasp what was being done to me from young and no I was given an opportunity to opt out. I did not have the choice to wear slacks and a simple shirt. The practice comes from the medieval times. The words actually come from Corinthians: Mans Head Belongs to Christ, Woman's head belongs to her husband and Christs head belongs to God. When entering the church veiled for marriage this is a the symbolism the church recognizes. I chose not to go before a Priest in Church veiled because I did not believe my head would belong to my husband. In my Church that is what that veil and the unveiling before God and witnesses signifies. I worked with my priest a forward thinking man and things were removed from the ceremony. The part about who gives this woman to this man...gone. The part of Honor and Obey...gone. Until death do us part...gone.

It wasn't until I started taking women's studies classes in college that I began to comprehend the origins and honestly cannot wrap my brain around them still. I would no more wear a veil, a hijab, niqab or a burqa as a fashion accessory anymore than I would a wear a Star of David necklace. They all have deep rooted religious meaning if we practice these religions or not. In my religion the veil is to be white as a statement and a public confirmation that the woman is indeed pure for marriage before God by the father (or man who is presenting the woman) to a man. The lifting of veil is the final step of turning over a woman to the husband that head of hers now belongs to the husband. In my world it was anything but a fashion statement. In church that veil has true religious meaning. There are rules and laws about veils. If a woman husband dies and she remarries a veil should not be worn for the second marriage as the woman is no longer "pure." My Nuns were covered from head to toe, including their hair because hair is considered to be part of their womanhood. Since Nuns are Married to Christ they were to be covered because their bodies and their heads belonged to Christ. In 1983 the 'covering laws' for woman of the Church were removed but were not changed, just omitted. The laws were left so they could or can reappear at anytime at the will of the Church Leadership in Rome. In very conservative parishes in the USA the requirement for heads to be covered by hats or veils has returned for woman and female children. If you are a female entering without your own covering you are handed a 12" x 12" lace square to wear on your head while within the church building.

I can accept that people do follow practices from being pure for marriage, that they do believe that their head belongs to their husbands, that a father does 'give' her to man but not even in my AARP years grasp all that, didn't almost 50 years ago and less now. I wear a cross and on the same chain a St. Francis medal. Have had them since my communion. I choose to wear these because it something I believe in which I believe is important to believe in what you are communicating to others.

Yikes! First communion I wore a veil because I liked the tiara that was attached, nothing on my head at Confirmation because a tiara would have been a bit much with the outfit I wore under the ugly robe not that I was looking for one I have a wedding ring but almost never wear it because I need 2 rind guards to wear it and mostly have gotten not used to wearing one, my relative the nun wears a suit no head covering and unless I'm going to a wedding or funeral for somebody very close if somebody handed me a piece of lace I'd blow my nose hand it back and walk out.

 

[Figgy1]

Oy. That is rough. And reading on more Oy's. But Amen for being employeed. During the recession while both of my kids were in college the husband was brought down to 2.5 days per week, not laid off and insurance benefits remained intact. That was the beginning of when I saw him begin to 'change.' Saw the same thing happen to other men in that same timeframe. So happy he keeps his job. So sorry for you and induring that overnight thing and under foot.

Can you at least try and book a mini trip as a consolation prize?

It will depend on James music schedule and if they can both get time off at the same time. With luck maybe we can do a 4 day road tip sometime over the summer, fingers crossed

 

[Figgy1]

Hmpf. I'm surprised you didn't have the manchild tackle Mt. Laundry over the weekend. How did you miss that?

I have a Bosch washer and he's not allowed to touch it except to take a load of towels and put them in the dryer. If there is any of my clothes in the wash just NOPE! I did make him empty the dryer every load and bring it upstairs for him to fold after I sorted out mine and my dh's stuff.

 

[Figgy1]

I am happy you are employed. I'm happy it will bring more money. I will be happier for you when you are where your heart leads you here or overseas. Wish only the best for you.

My DD started Grad School this week. She is doing well in her career but she knows in her case she needs her masters to move forward. She has chosen one of the most academically challenging master programs as her goal. Of Course! She never took any easy road. The field qualifications have 900,000 deficit in candidates qualified to even apply to a career that will not disappear like My Space did. I'm proud of her desire to become more educated and me I take a deep breath. Here we go again. She is an 'all in' or 'out' type of person. It should be an interesting couple of years as she powers through all this. This is the kid that double majored and minored in 3.5 years cause she could do all that for the same tuition. Love her dearly but watching her makes me so tired.

I will send good karma for this position your future. *pixie dust* Want only the best for ya.

Pixie dust for both of you.

 

[Figgy1]

Wish me luck I'm going shopping today and have to get everything without exception and start cooking as soon as I get home because tomorrow is BBQ day. My older ds' birthday is this week and that's what he picked for his party.

 

[MinnieM123]

As a man, might I wade in here for a bit. Until this week I never knew that veil thing was about that. Presentation really? Never occurred to me. I always just saw it as a tradition and as a Father felt that it wasn't control it was a complete relinquishing of control, if any existed to begin with. Yes, I felt I was handing over something that I treasured, not as a gift, but, as respect for her wishes to leave the bonding with her Father and Mother. Never once a present to a man to have as a possession. If that is what it actually meant to not only me, but, to them as well, we never would have done it. Tradition was all it was about. That's the way it is done with no formal explaination about what it all implied.

When my wife and I got married the chapel we were married in, did not have a center isle. What we did was I was escorted to the front of the chapel by my Mother and Father and she on the other side with her parents. We met in the middle and separated from our parents and went on to be a couple. No hidden ownership thoughts ever existed. It was just part of a ceremony and was symbolic yes, but, not in the sense you guys are talking about. Never even crossed our minds. And that would have been 46 years ago last week. Do people stay up nights trying to find a way to be offended?

When my oldest married, she copied our ceremony and had both sets of parents accompany their respective child to the alter. She even had the same entrance song that we did. The Hawaiian Wedding Song. Our and her exit song was the Wedding March. My youngest wanted to do a more traditional set up where I escorted her down the isle. I know I never thought of it as control or presentation, but, instead just a last chance to hold on to my baby before she made her own life and if you knew her you would know that she would never be subservient to anyone, so I know that wasn't in the motivation anyplace.

I really feel terrible if in this day and age people really still consciously think of the wedding traditions as being anything other then a ceremony acted out as a way to have memories and a feeling of commitment to one another. I feel sorry that some of that would be blocked out due to unreal thoughts of what things currently represent. OK, I guess I have said enough. Parts of it even made my eyes water a bit, but that could be because of the chemicals I've been dumping in my eye because of the Cataract thing. So I'll shut up now.

Very sincerely stated comments above, and thanks for sharing them.

From this past week's discussion with various members here, I learned that there are multiple ways that couples pledge their commitment to one another.

So the good thing is that no matter where any of us (or future generations to come) fits in with the older, newer, or some sort of combination of traditions, I think all of these will survive the test of time. Something for everyone.

 

[MinnieM123]

The bad news night shift has past the rumor stage, just waiting for official date. The good news is my dh is not getting laid off at midnight and will get paid on time.

Wow. Did I just read this correctly? Not so much him going back on night shift, but did you say that there are some layoffs where he works?

 

[MinnieM123]

My DD started Grad School this week. She is doing well in her career but she knows in her case she needs her masters to move forward. She has chosen one of the most academically challenging master programs as her goal. Of Course! She never took any easy road. The field qualifications have 900,000 deficit in candidates qualified to even apply to a career that will not disappear like My Space did. I'm proud of her desire to become more educated and me I take a deep breath. Here we go again. She is an 'all in' or 'out' type of person. It should be an interesting couple of years as she powers through all this. This is the kid that double majored and minored in 3.5 years cause she could do all that for the same tuition. Love her dearly but watching her makes me so tired.

Wow! Talk about dedication. She's obviously a very hard worker and has a goal. I admire that--best of luck to her.

 

[MinnieM123]

First communion I wore a veil because I liked the tiara that was attached

I had a chuckle from your comment, because in 2nd grade, (about 7 years old) I also enjoyed wearing my little tiara/veil and pretty communion dress. My mother used to laugh at my antics, because I'd "pose" in front of the full-length mirror, looking positively gleeful with the little tiara on my head!

I think my parents used to let me stick around for so many years back then, for the entertainment value.

 

[Mr Ferret 75]

Wow. Did I just read this correctly? Not so much him going back on night shift, but did you say that there are some layoffs where he works?

I think @figmentfan423 means Mr Figgy won't be affected by your countries shutdown at midnight.

 

[MinnieM123]

I may have something in the works for something new but it's a wait and see game. The weather being carp has delayed things. I'll be happy when the snow and ice are gone until next winter.

I'm really looking forward to you sharing pictures again, too. Hope something works out soon on your electronic device. In the interim, a thanks shout out to Figgy, @figmentfan423 , for filling in with with some great photos and funny ones, too.

 

[MinnieM123]

I think @figmentfan423 means Mr Figgy won't be affected by your countries shutdown at midnight.

Oh! Duh! (My brain isn't functioning this morning.) I never even thought of that in relation to his job!!! Thanks for sharing the reason.

 

[Figgy1]

Wow. Did I just read this correctly? Not so much him going back on night shift, but did you say that there are some layoffs where he works?

Yup all nonessential people until further notice. So no cafeteria or cleaning people

 

[MinnieM123]

I got on the manufacturer's website and got on their savings program right away. They sent me a savings card through my email that I showed to the pharmacist. That immediately brought it down by $100. All I had you do was enter my name, address, and email for the savings card. I found another coupon just through Google, and then I used rewards points. The price dropped to $250; which included more prednisone. Saved $150, and it did help me get more open and was cheaper than an ER visit. I'd rather sleep in my own bed with Belle over my chest than in the ER. Which normally her on my chest for too long is annoying, but somehow it's helpful when I'm this tight.

Amazing! Good to know!

 

[Mr Ferret 75]

Yup all nonessential people until further notice. So no cafeteria or cleaning people

Does this mean you can't touch mnt Laundry ?

 

[Figgy1]

I'm really looking forward to you sharing pictures again, too. Hope something works out soon on your electronic device. In the interim, a thanks shout out to Figgy, @figmentfan423 , for filling in with with some great photos and funny ones, too.

THNX, we're family so we do what we can

 

[Figgy1]

Does this mean you can't touch mnt Laundry ?

 

[MinnieM123]

Funny, I remember that. Wasn't it "Take my wife, please!"? Or am I thinking about Rodney Dangerfield?

If I'm not mistaken, Henny Youngman was the comedian who originally came up with the phrase. (And you're right, it was "wife" in the coined phrase--I was playing with the phrase, inserting daughter, but I didn't make that clear in my post.) Anyway, Rodney Dangerfield also used the phrase a lot, and I think his schtick became more well-known than Henny's. They were both hilarious--some really funny gags from years ago.