The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Well we are back from our trip, we got in last night around midnight. It was a fantastic time, I will do a trip report about it later. I got a cold our last day there, so I stayed home today to recoup. After napping most of the morning, I played ketchup on here and it sounds like you all had a nice Thanksgiving!

Glad you are home safe and sound. Feel better.
 

StarWarsGirl

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Well, this has been going on for 3 years or more...it's not always the same teacher. It's this dang method they have that is supposed to teach kids how to interact with each other. In theory, it's good, but it doesn't work. Basically, the premise is that there are 4 types of hats..White, yellow, black, and red. White is good...those are the kids who play nicely. Red means that they kind of go along with the crowd...laughing at things...they aren't necessarily the ring leaders, but they don't try to stop bullying either. Yellow is like...being a whiner, crying...feeling entitled I guess. Black is the group that bullies. The idea is that when someone exhibits a certain behavior, the other kids can remind them of how they are SUPPOSED to interact by asking what color hat they are wearing. So like, someone who is being bossy is wearing a black hat. And the "white hats" are the ones who will call them out on that, and try to get the red hats to stand with them against whoever is being a black hat. And the victim of the bullying is supposed to try to handle it themselves first...so they are supposed to set the boundary and say "Stop. I don't like what you are doing to me." They are supposed to be able to talk it out. The kid has to try 3 times to get the behavior to stop before going to a teacher. If it gets to that point, the teacher is supposed to facilitate a conversation between the two. If it continues after the conversation, then there is supposed to be action taken. In our experience, it never gets past the stage of the teacher having them talk it out. It just keeps happening and they consider each thing a new incident, rather than connecting it all. Like...if last week, the kid was kicking a ball at DS, and this week he pushes him in the mud, that's not considered continuing the bad behavior...it's a new incident, so they talk it out again. And then nothing happens for a week and then the kid does something again, and it's a new incident. They don't see it as a pattern of the kid bullying DS, because it's not exactly the same every time.
That is such an asinine policy, and I am so sorry that this is happening to your son.

I was bullied when I was in middle school. With girls, it's more verbal bullying and intimidation than physical abuse. If they were physical, they'd get in trouble, but it's more challenging when it was verbal. I reported it every time that it happened, and I always came home and told my parents (well, Mom anyway) what was happening. I have no idea why I was not the type of kid not to report something, but I always reported it and told my parents.

Anyway, the administration refused to do anything about it. It was clearly all on the other girl; I was basically just trying to ignore her. We were never friends; it was just that she decided, for whatever reason, that she wanted to pick on someone, and I became the target. I had a good group of friends that year, and she wouldn't come near me if one of my friends was around, especially my one friend. She was the kind of stereotypical big, Baltimore black girl who could be the nicest person on the planet, but you didn't dare mess with her or her friends because she could be downright scary. I know because I saw it come out one day when the bully came up to me. She didn't even get a chance to speak, and my friend had chased her off. I stuck to my friend like glue that year, but I couldn't always, and when my friends weren't around, the bully saw it as an opportunity, and she could be brutal. I remember one day in particular that she just randomly came up to me and said, "Missy, you're a b*tch." I replied, "That's okay; I don't like you either," and tried to walk around her, but she blocked my way and kept taunting me. I managed to escape, crying, into the nurse's office.

The administrator dealing with it kept trying to chalk it up to teenage girl issues. I got in trouble with him because I told her to shut up. Looking back on it, I'm like, good grief, THAT was reason to get in trouble? I've told my BROTHER to shut up before when he's really been getting on my nerves. Finally, after the administrator told us that he was going to sit us down to "talk and work it out," my dad called the administrator and said that the bullying had better stop, or else his next phone call would be to the police. He didn't take the BS from the administrator that I shouldn't have told the girl to shut up either, that it was self defense and he had no problem with it. Wouldn't you know that I had no more trouble with that girl after that phone call?

I sympathize with your son. It only went on with me for about a year and with one person; I can't imagine having multiple people bully you and not have the administration do anything. It's not just a coming-of-age thing, or a "boys will be boys" thing, nor does it "toughen them up" for the real world. If we allow children to behave like bullies, we just create adults who are bullies. I hope you're able to get everything straightened out and things become better for your son.
 

donaldtoo

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I just love Beauty and the Beast soundtrack. Actually my kids, in my opinion grew up with some of the very best of Disney soundtracks. Lion King, Beauty, Pocahontas, Aladdin, Little Mermaid, Mulan and so forth. They had Disney at their best.

Then came High School Musical and I had to hide.

Similar here.
We saw many of those "New Classics" in the theater with the kiddos...! :)
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
the only way these tents make sense in my mind.. is also when people have big parties..and have a cake etc.. vs sitting or making reservations at sit down restaurants.
other than that.. I do not see the appeal.

Still do you know what a big cake provided by Disney would cost for a large group? And your large group can only have a maximum of 8 people. Yikes. And on top of that a $650 tent. I'd be finding some tables up in Columbia House. :joyfull:
 

Figgy1

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That is horrible. Wildfires are nothing to ignore. Was this set by someone? I went to Gatlinburg when we were first married. I loved that little town...
My dh's grandfather lived in that area, it was very pretty. His wife(#3) not so much. She liked to say nasty things about people of different races. Needless to say we never stayed long enough to really enjoy the area
 

Figgy1

Well-Known Member
Still do you know what a big cake provided by Disney would cost for a large group? And your large group can only have a maximum of 8 people. Yikes. And on top of that a $650 tent. I'd be finding some tables up in Columbia House. :joyfull:
Upstairs is always nice and quiet even when the park is packed. Last trip we didn't eat there but found time to grab a drink and go upstairs just to sit for a few minutes:)
 

Figgy1

Well-Known Member
Well we are back from our trip, we got in last night around midnight. It was a fantastic time, I will do a trip report about it later. I got a cold our last day there, so I stayed home today to recoup. After napping most of the morning, I played ketchup on here and it sounds like you all had a nice Thanksgiving!
Welcome home but sorry to hear about your cold. GWs xoxo
 

donaldtoo

Well-Known Member
So . . . I recently was informed that there will be some possible changes ahead in my (work) division. A high level executive is leaving in a few months and some (or all) of us, may or may not have jobs in the next half year or so. It just depends upon who comes in, and what that person's vision is for the department. Why does this carp always have to go down before the holidays when people are supposed to be happy? :mad:

So I'm just hanging in there for now, with the full support of all my supervisors who will advocate to find me something else, if the worst goes down, in the future. I may be doing this in due course:

Updating my resume:
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And I'll note that I'm a "team player" --

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And that I;m very reliable, and show up for work on time, because I have transportation --

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Oh my! Sympathy like!!!
Hopefully, at the worst, all they do is find another place for you in the company with no salary loss.
Best case, they keep you were you are ('cause you're used to it ;)) and give you a big raise...!!! :D

Prayers, and Pixie Dust...!!!!!
 

donaldtoo

Well-Known Member
Ugh. I'm sorry. Sending good Karma your way.

Oy. Yesterday my DD learned as did her boss moments before that they were once again consolidating. So far she is 'safe' but being a pretty savvy young woman she knows they wouldn't tell them until they were called into an office while security packed their belongings and confiscated their laptops. Yes, a week before Thanksgiving.

We shall see.

Ugh! More...?!
Sympathy like.
Hope she is not affected, but, even if she is, I'm pretty sure she'll find somethin' else quickly...!!! ;) :)
More prayers, and Pixie Dust...!!!
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
in other news, back from my doc, I'm still ill but recovering.. I hope to be allright by next week.
in the other hand, I'm falling asleep and these meds gives me nightmares. Didnt sleep yesterday with some very weird WDW dreams.

Blah. Get well soon.

I hate night terrors. But curious about yours since it is about Disney World afterall. ;)
 

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