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Gabe1

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
MinnieM123 said:
I love the color. Actually, they have a number of attractive colors to choose from. But here is the only item I have from Le Creuset. Bought it for hubby a few years ago (also in red below) at the outlet. He likes grinding up peppercorns, so he uses it for that. :)
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I've looked at the outlet too. But Ouch they are expensive. My Gran had several pieces. I'm thinking they all got tossed. Everyone at that point was into stainless steel when she passed.
 
donaldtoo

donaldtoo

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MinnieM123 said:
There's definitely more options for a successful roll-out on emergency landing, if the plane is smaller.
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Yep, you need a lot more space for a large airliner to roll out especially if one or all engines are out with reduced or no ability to use reverse thrust in braking, or if the ability to control the aerodynamic spoilers on the wings was lost. In the case of the Airbus A-380, the spoilers actually contribute much more to the slowing of the plane than reverse thrust. Reverse thrust is only available on the 2 inboard engines on the A-380, and is only deployable on the ground (some planes can use reverse thrust in the air to help with getting on the ground quicker).
And, of course, the amount reverse thrust contributes to overall braking varies from model to model.
 
Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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donaldtoo said:
Yep, you need a lot more space for a large airliner to roll out especially if one or all engines are out with reduced or no ability to use reverse thrust in braking, or if the ability to control the aerodynamic spoilers on the wings was lost. In the case of the Airbus A-380, the spoilers actually contribute much more to the slowing of the plane than reverse thrust. Reverse thrust is only available on the 2 inboard engines on the A-380, and is only deployable on the ground (some planes can use reverse thrust in the air to help with getting on the ground quicker).
And, of course, the amount reverse thrust contributes to overall braking varies from model to model.
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As far I know, the reverse thrust on engines is actually blocked from being used during cruise speeds and high speeds. There was some cases of 2 suicidal pilots using it to down the plane, and various accidents when they accidentally deployed by themselves (mechanical or computer errors).
Unless you mean the "wing air brakes" which are standard.

As for the a380, I just googled. And it seems the huge landing gear can stop the A380 from V1 to full stop without damaging its disks.
Thus making the reverse thrusters the lowest (in importance) to stop the plane. (used mostly during wet and ice conditions)

Infact, I kept reading that using reverse thrusters on the outer wing engines would actually be dangerous for the plane itself. As the engine power can pick up debris and damage the engine or the fuselage.

Aaah the marvels of engineering!
 
Gabe1

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Cesar R M said:
They definitely were useful, and to fix a lot of things temporarily along with strong instant glue.
Sad to see that crafts are becoming less common and more niche.
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Hot Glue Guns, Liquid Nails and Super Glue are my friends.

Crafts in N. IL are still a thing. Lots of shows. I'd say at least half have become far more refined, items with a purpose and have more of a classy look with price tags that go along with it. I love to attend to get ideas and most of the fairs support a cause.
 
donaldtoo

donaldtoo

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Cesar R M said:
As far I know, the reverse thrust on engines is actually blocked from being used during cruise speeds and high speeds. There was some cases of 2 suicidal pilots using it to down the plane, and various accidents when they accidentally deployed by themselves (mechanical or computer errors).
Unless you mean the "wing air brakes" which are standard.

As for the a380, I just googled. And it seems the huge landing gear can stop the A380 from V1 to full stop without damaging its disks.
Thus making the reverse thrusters the lowest (in importance) to stop the plane. (used mostly during wet and ice conditions)

Infact, I kept reading that using reverse thrusters on the outer wing engines would actually be dangerous for the plane itself. As the engine power can pick up debris and damage the engine or the fuselage.

Aaah the marvels of engineering!
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Hahaaa...!!! :hilarious:
We read the exact same article...!
I wanted make sure my facts on reverse thrust were correct. :)
Also, in that same article is were it talks about the US Air Force C-17 using reverse thrust in the air to speed descent and get on the ground quicker.
And yes, it also talks about the crash of a 767 15 min. after takeoff in Indonesia in '91, killing all 313 aboard, because the thrust reverser deployed on one of it's engines at 24,000 ft.
The article didn't say what they thought the cause of the deployment was.
The marvels of engineering, indeed...! :)
 
Gabe1

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
donaldtoo said:
Yep, you need a lot more space for a large airliner to roll out especially if one or all engines are out with reduced or no ability to use reverse thrust in braking, or if the ability to control the aerodynamic spoilers on the wings was lost. In the case of the Airbus A-380, the spoilers actually contribute much more to the slowing of the plane than reverse thrust. Reverse thrust is only available on the 2 inboard engines on the A-380, and is only deployable on the ground (some planes can use reverse thrust in the air to help with getting on the ground quicker).
And, of course, the amount reverse thrust contributes to overall braking varies from model to model.
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Cesar R M said:
As far I know, the reverse thrust on engines is actually blocked from being used during cruise speeds and high speeds. There was some cases of 2 suicidal pilots using it to down the plane, and various accidents when they accidentally deployed by themselves (mechanical or computer errors).
Unless you mean the "wing air brakes" which are standard.

As for the a380, I just googled. And it seems the huge landing gear can stop the A380 from V1 to full stop without damaging its disks.
Thus making the reverse thrusters the lowest (in importance) to stop the plane. (used mostly during wet and ice conditions)

Infact, I kept reading that using reverse thrusters on the outer wing engines would actually be dangerous for the plane itself. As the engine power can pick up debris and damage the engine or the fuselage.

Aaah the marvels of engineering!
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I was watching this news program the morning of the small plane crash (heeheehee) on a major road in downtown Chicago.

Hilarious. And ooops.

 
donaldtoo

donaldtoo

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MinnieM123 said:
I think that Bells is definitely better than Stove Top, but that's just my own personal taste. (Again, with Bells, although the mix is "enough", I do add some of the extra seasonings from the little seasoning box, too.)
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Speaking of spices in dressing, my MIL puts sage in hers and it's definitely the right amount! :hungry: Also, hers is more of a cornbread dressing.
I grew up with a bread dressing with no sage.
Both dressings/stuffings are sooo darn good, though...!!! :hungry: :hungry: :hungry:
 
donaldtoo

donaldtoo

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Cesar R M said:
it depends on the plane, not the size.
There has been plenty of accidents of smaller planes. But interesting,the worst ones are always with turbofan engines.
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That's probably because that is the only type of engine used on all major larger long-haul airliners these days, and for quite some time now...? There are no new large airliners out there that I know of using turbojets or turboprops.
I'm not going to try and look it up right now, but, somewhere there has to be statistics on how many air crashes have been caused over the years by some sort of engine failure/malfunction, as opposed to weather, pilot error, other system failure, etc.
I'm not positive, but, I think engine failure is probably pretty low on the list. And, I'm also pretty sure most modern turbofans are among the most reliable aircraft engines ever produced.
 

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