The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
The thing is the book was talking about making waiting in line less painful. They could have talked about Disney's interactive queues, Fastpass, how they have such attention to detail...but no. They BS'ed the section.:rolleyes:
Wonder if they got free accommodations, fast passes or AP's for that article (lol).
I mean, if mommy bloggers who get 40 watches a year can get so many stuff.. why not someone who wrote a book so full of bs.
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
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I'm pretty sure that's why we drive! Saves a chunk of money (that is usually spent on drinks in the World) and we know we will be on the road for 15-18 hours total (including breaks). As opposed to every time we've flown and what looks like a couple hours in airports and a couple hours on planes and maybe 7 hours total ends up being 10+ hours every time and a very high level of aggravation. I'd rather drive and have some quality family time on the road! We bring our own craziness!!
I can't say we've ever had any trouble flying Southwest out of BWI. Usually takes about 6-7 hours from the time we leave the house to setting foot on Disney property. Well worth it for us not to drive. My dad, if we drive, always insists that he drive the entire way. At once. It's not exactly ideal. So we fly. :) It also ended up being a good thing last trip when my dad had to go home for a funeral midtrip. We just booked him a flight to go home and come back (and Disney, fyi, was wonderful about accommodating us for ME and dining reservations).
 

Cesar R M

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Absconded luncheon munchie time again: Mediterranean...!!!!! :joyfull: :hungry: :)

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looks delicious!
 

Cesar R M

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That might be true, but, do you know if any actually auditioned for the parts? Are you able to determine that those that did had sufficient talent to do the job. I will agree that there have been many situations where that happened. Marlon Brando, for example, playing an asian by using rubber bands to pull the corners of this eyes upward. You may be right about those real native american young girl actors, but, do we know for sure that they had the ability? Maybe they did, but, I don't see how we are in a position to make the judgment.
Interesting that you mention Marlon Brando, who refused to get his oscar.. by asking a native american to pick them up while complaining and mentioning the abuse and treatment of native american by the hollywood film industry.
And yes some of them TRIED to audition. And they were REFUSED (aka the executives already had a white dude in mind)
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Way back when we had a fancy schmancy show dog. It had a bunch of ribbons and all that and as far as dogs go sweet and semi bright, but I like rescue dogs better. I'm not happy being petless today:(

Me either. :( Sirens went off this morning and that was always followed up by Walt howling. Silence. DD and I just looked at each other obviously thinking the same thing. :in pain:
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
I'm pretty sure that's why we drive! Saves a chunk of money (that is usually spent on drinks in the World) and we know we will be on the road for 15-18 hours total (including breaks). As opposed to every time we've flown and what looks like a couple hours in airports and a couple hours on planes and maybe 7 hours total ends up being 10+ hours every time and a very high level of aggravation. I'd rather drive and have some quality family time on the road! We bring our own craziness!!

I'd have to do a 2 days down, 2 days back home so 4 days of vacations spent commuting. Not going to give up that much vacation time for that. Plus me about 3 hours is about my limit for road trips. But I know the feeling about the length of time it takes to fly these days. Having to be at the airport now 2 hours in advance for a 6am flight is crazy. It isn't unusual for a delay to happen during our trips either or both at Chicago or Orlando. My most recent trip we did not have a delay either way. Can't remember when that happened last. Still we were out the door at 3am and hit our resort at 1030am for about 2 1/2 hour flight. It has become crazier. Still better that 4 days of travel from up here.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Perhaps, they weren't as bigoted, close minded and disgusting as we are now. Even met a child that wasn't taught to hate, hating people for their race? Seems like it is more of an effort to end that kind of thinking instead of promoting it.

I've read, reread and pondered this post thinking I might be reading it wrong. Am I? and who is the We?
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
TRIP REPORT, Day 7 PART 3!

So, after leaving the huge San Cristobal fort.
We left and waited a few minutes, until our driver finally showed up (he was doing loops).

He picked us up and onwards we went to the SAN FELIPE DEL MORRO fort.

He then explained some problem with some citizens of San Juan who refused to leave the outer walls of San Juan that pretty much blocks them away from the city, not to mention that their homes are heavily exposed to storms and hurricanes.
The zone also reassembled a ghetto with its own rules.
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There is a very big "explanada" or plat area with zero trees. This was used to have the enemy under constant fire with no cover.
And some of the "lower" area as now been transformed into an underground parking lot which is invisible for the most part.

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Pardon the horrible panorama,extremely windy, no tripod, plus tired = blurry row of shots.
should have sped up the shutter to freeze the action...

It was a bit of a long walk under the sun. There is also a small chained golf kart similar to the shuttles of Disney (that takes you from the parking lots to the parks) Unfortunately, the shuttle was nowhere to be seen. Infact we were arriving to the fort when we finally seen it entering the El Morro area.
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This castle has even more impressive ramparts, towers and castle walls.
It also has a multi level canon fortifications. Having 3 floors.. in a 2-2 style.
Level 3 and level 2 viewing the city of San Juan, and level 3 and level 1 (in triangle shape with an elevated fortification for bigger canons) facing the sea.

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Facing the South side (San Juan's bay)

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Facing the north, to the sea.
Note the "modern" lighthouse which was rebuilt once when the first was damaged beyond repair.

Just like San Cristobal, there is a small entrance with a security guard that charges you the entrance fees. We paid already on San Cristobal so we did just show our tickets and we entered with no issue.

This castle had a more smaller courtyard. But with similar structures and barracks.
They had impressive areas with rooms that had narrow "balconies" that overlook the sea and the bay entrance. I wouldnt be surprised if they could have been used for canons as well.

First thing we did was check out the right side.. Where they had a lot of displays of canons and weapons of the different eras the fort survived. From the first years of the Spanish empire, to the final war against the USA and subsequent annexation.

This fort also had a new WW2 reinforced bunker built on one of the sections. In this case, it was closed to visitors.

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The view from the Second floor canon fortifications of the north side, facing the "triangle" fortification. Leading to the strongest battery and the water battery.. The "Bateria de Santa Barbara". (which was the highlight of the battle against the english forces.) .
note the more modern WW2 bunker and its communication tower.

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Mother dearest posing on the north wall battery (the chainfence is nearby where I took the prior photo)

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A Garita on the second level, this is the most right ( most to the north) part of the fort.

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This was the photo right by the garita. Facing the San Juan battery (third level).


Panorama of the San Juan battery fortifications, facing the door and San Juan.
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And the most photogenic part of the Fort, the Lighthouse!

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Now, annoyance of the day.
There were some kids that were literally DESTROYING everything they touched.. they kicked, threw rocks and tried to bend things they found through the parks. the parents were oblivious and ignoring all the destruction the kids did.
Many of the visitors were really beyond furious at the display.
I was no surprise an officer later went to check if there was damage and call out the parents for being reverend dbags.

See the "el morro light house" they were kicking and jumping on it (after dropping it to the floor). Then proceed to kick the doors.. and I dont mean soft kicks, I mean real karate style kicks.
One of the smaller doors (that looked like a cellar style door) budget a bit, they laughed and left...
Really wanted to give him a good old face slap I swear!.

NwJueHm.jpg


Anyway, more photos of the light house and third floor.
shU64uo.jpg

We didnt venture to the bunker area. We wanted to see the lower battery before we had to leave.


Note that the sun was seriously burning. Thanks god we had our hats (I had a Safari hat that I bought at animal kingdom, and my mother that fancy painted straw hat). The wind made the temps very tolerable.

We then got down and headed towards to see more of the displays, including the barracks (yikes.. they had to sleep like this!)
Ha4bGLS.jpg


From the second floor rooms (which included a small souvenir store)..
You could see the small balconies and take photos of the BATERIA DE SANTA BARBARA.
Look at those extensive fortifications. Each triangle had a canon. I bet it would have been impressive seeing it on full action against the english.
jUokd8K.jpg


Then we went downstairs via the main supply ramp.. Can you imagine dragging a few tons of canon balls, gunpowder..etc..?
Also there was supposed some shells stuck in the wall during the Spanish USA war.

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The old style bronze cannons during the Spanish England battle with yours truly.
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Tune in for part 4!!!
 
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brb1006

Well-Known Member
So I just came back from College today and while I was waiting for my parents to pick me up. This random pink ice cream truck was passing by and while it was playing random songs medleys I suddenly hear the ice cream truck playing the "It's A Small World" song. It was pretty random but also odd to see.
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
TRIP REPORT.. DAY 7 PART 4!

SAN JUAN PR

Have some panorama facing the entire front wall (floor 2 and 3 of El Morro)
Note these huge walls! these spanish guys really made their fortifications to last!
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More detailed look.. right next to the security guard reinforced cabin.
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Onlooking the Fortin of San Juan de la Cruz from one of the garitas of El Morro:
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The Fortin, which was a tiny box fortification with a few canons and a single garita.
Story says they even had chains crossing from El Morro to San Juan de la Cruz to block ships from entering the bay.
So if the ships tried to dodge the main fire of El Morro while entering the bay.. El Fortin would take them down.

Bonus points.. originally the tiny fort was completely surrounded by water. They later merged the fort with the island of "The Goat".

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Panorama!
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Im not sure what this tower is about, but its radar was working. I wonder if its some sort of control tower but for ships.
I know that the Oasis was always flanked by armed gunboats when entering and leaving the port...
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And on the farthest side.. you could see the famous alcoholic drinks factory area. Where they produced Bacardi.
Powered partially by wind power.
I dont remember but I think the fan generators were turned on that day despite the windy nature of the day.
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Also, some ruins right by the mere tip of the entrance of the bay of San Juan.
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God bless my heavy 150-600mm lens lol.

Tune in tomorrow for part 5 (the remaining day)
 
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ajrwdwgirl

Premium Member
TRIP REPORT, Day 7 PART 3!

So, after leaving the huge San Cristobal fort.
We left and waited a few minutes, until our driver finally showed up (he was doing loops).

He picked us up and onwards we went to the SAN FELIPE DEL MORRO fort.

He then explained some problem with some citizens of San Juan who refused to leave the outer walls of San Juan that pretty much blocks them away from the city, not to mention that their homes are heavily exposed to storms and hurricanes.
The zone also reassembled a ghetto with its own rules.
LcoEzrz.jpg


There is a very big "explanada" or plat area with zero trees. This was used to have the enemy under constant fire with no cover.
And some of the "lower" area as now been transformed into an underground parking lot which is invisible for the most part.

ahXiv5L.jpg

Pardon the horrible panorama,extremely windy, no tripod, plus tired = blurry row of shots.
should have sped up the shutter to freeze the action...

It was a bit of a long walk under the sun. There is also a small chained golf kart similar to the shuttles of Disney (that takes you from the parking lots to the parks) Unfortunately, the shuttle was nowhere to be seen. Infact we were arriving to the fort when we finally seen it entering the El Morro area.
weAaona.jpg


This castle has even more impressive ramparts, towers and castle walls.
It also has a multi level canon fortifications. Having 3 floors.. in a 2-2 style.
Level 3 and level 2 viewing the city of San Juan, and level 3 and level 1 (in triangle shape with an elevated fortification for bigger canons) facing the sea.

5USc0DY.jpg

Facing the South side (San Juan's bay)

xtkCHQY.jpg

Facing the north, to the sea.
Note the "modern" lighthouse which was rebuilt once when the first was damaged beyond repair.

Just like San Cristobal, there is a small entrance with a security guard that charges you the entrance fees. We paid already on San Cristobal so we did just show our tickets and we entered with no issue.

This castle had a more smaller courtyard. But with similar structures and barracks.
They had impressive areas with rooms that had narrow "balconies" that overlook the sea and the bay entrance. I wouldnt be surprised if they could have been used for canons as well.

First thing we did was check out the right side.. Where they had a lot of displays of canons and weapons of the different eras the fort survived. From the first years of the Spanish empire, to the final war against the USA and subsequent annexation.

This fort also had a new WW2 reinforced bunker built on one of the sections. In this case, it was closed to visitors.

uiIZ1c6.jpg

The view from the Second floor canon fortifications of the north side, facing the "triangle" fortification. Leading to the strongest battery and the water battery.. The "Bateria de Santa Barbara". (which was the highlight of the battle against the english forces.) .
note the more modern WW2 bunker and its communication tower.

ZTJu8BZ.jpg

Mother dearest posing on the north wall battery (the chainfence is nearby where I took the prior photo)

ItcOO9I.jpg

A Garita on the second level, this is the most right ( most to the north) part of the fort.

59z88ux.jpg

This was the photo right by the garita. Facing the San Juan battery (third level).


Panorama of the San Juan battery fortifications, facing the door and San Juan.
b7r1vuz.jpg


And the most photogenic part of the Fort, the Lighthouse!

rXMT8JL.jpg

Now, annoyance of the day.
There were some kids that were literally DESTROYING everything they touched.. they kicked, threw rocks and tried to bend things they found through the parks. the parents were oblivious and ignoring all the destruction the kids did.
Many of the visitors were really beyond furious at the display.
I was no surprise an officer later went to check if there was damage and call out the parents for being reverend dbags.

See the "el morro light house" they were kicking and jumping on it (after dropping it to the floor). Then proceed to kick the doors.. and I dont mean soft kicks, I mean real karate style kicks.
One of the smaller doors (that looked like a cellar style door) budget a bit, they laughed and left...
Really wanted to give him a good old face slap I swear!.

NwJueHm.jpg


Anyway, more photos of the light house and third floor.
shU64uo.jpg

We didnt venture to the bunker area. We wanted to see the lower battery before we had to leave.


Note that the sun was seriously burning. Thanks god we had our hats (I had a Safari hat that I bought at animal kingdom, and my mother that fancy painted straw hat). The wind made the temps very tolerable.

We then got down and headed towards to see more of the displays, including the barracks (yikes.. they had to sleep like this!)
Ha4bGLS.jpg


From the second floor rooms (which included a small souvenir store)..
You could see the small balconies and take photos of the BATERIA DE SANTA BARBARA.
Look at those extensive fortifications. Each triangle had a canon. I bet it would have been impressive seeing it on full action against the english.
jUokd8K.jpg


Then we went downstairs via the main supply ramp.. Can you imagine dragging a few tons of canon balls, gunpowder..etc..?
Also there was supposed some shells stuck in the wall during the Spanish USA war.

r9mnPEA.jpg


The old style bronze cannons during the Spanish England battle with yours truly.
xL0oW0y.jpg


Tune in for part 4!!!


El Morro looks pretty cool. It reminds me of Saint Augustine FL's fort, except the one you went to is much bigger.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I've read, reread and pondered this post thinking I might be reading it wrong. Am I? and who is the We?
We as in nation. Obviously, not everyone falls into the exact definition. What I was saying is that in the time-frame that was depicting, it is possible that the entire scenario was more likely to play out then as compared to now when we are soooo race conscious and it is just another reason why there is division.

Let's just ask the question what is more harmful to a homogenized society, a show that only shows blacks with blacks, asians with asians, whites with whites and we don't seem to find a problem with that, but, if there is a combination then one will be white because they are intentionally whiting it up and not because it is showing a less then bigoted relationship. Sometimes we can't see the forest for the trees.
 

donaldtoo

Well-Known Member
Not this time. I will let it slide. :rolleyes:

I pointed out that textbook that had an entire page about Disney that was complete bologna. Characters have NEVER entertained guests in line, management book. :rolleyes:

Hahaaa...!
Yes, it's quite the opposite, actually...
Characters aren't interacting with Guests in line, Guests are waiting in lines to interact with characters...!!! :hilarious:
 

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