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ajrwdwgirl

Premium Member
in other news.. If I had facepalmed on amazon.com for everytime someone answers a question with "dont know". I would have lost my head years ago to direct trauma damage.
I still dont get the logic. If someone asks a question.. its for those who know it. Not for someone to say a dumb "lol I dont know".
Its not like you're going to earn points for an useless answer.

Try being a teacher...if I had a penny for every time I heard "I don't know" or read "IDK" on an assignment or test I would have been a millionaire years ago. It is especially frustrating when I just gave the answer shortly before asking the question or if they have their notes in front of them and they still say "I don't know!"
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
A lot of people don't realize that they need to work (sometimes unpaid) and expect everything they want just handed to them. Entitlement at its finest. :rolleyes:

Paid or unpaid internships are not the focal point here for me. I just can't wrap my head around how this young woman didn't have a clue she wasn't going to get paid? Huh? (My first job was at 14. One of the first things I asked the interviewer was how much was the salary. I recall the interviewer showed me an hourly wage in writing.) I needed the money, so I really wanted to know how much the job paid. (Incidentally, this was just a part-time seasonal job, while I was still in school. It wasn't full-time. And because I was under 16, the working hours were restricted by the Commonwealth of MA. I even had to file for "working papers" at that age.) Anyway, back to this intern--perhaps she wasn't as much in financial need as I was, and maybe that's why the "unpaid" element of this internship didn't register immediately with her, when she accepted the job.
 

ajrwdwgirl

Premium Member
There is a guy I know in this internet world who does really cool mixes of Disney music, they are dance types of mixes. You can find him (DjTechnoid) on Soundcloud.com. The mixes are free to listen to and download. He spends a lot of time on them and I think they are awesome. He just released a mix dedicated to the Magic Kingdom's 45th anniversary. There is also mixes of Paint the Night, a tribute to Disneyland for the 60th, and Main Street Electrical Parade. I think it is so awesome that he offers it for free.

Here is a link if you are interested....https://soundcloud.com/djtechnoid-3
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
A lot of people don't realize that they need to work (sometimes unpaid) and expect everything they want just handed to them. :rolleyes:

Me, (and just my take on students) I think there is a big difference between wanting everything handed to them vs minimum wage. Me, I never worked at any business for free. Even in college I was paid. My kids both had jobs during the school year at the University, my son in the economics department. Both were paid. Both of my kids starting working part time at age 15.

I don't fault a student for not continuing to work at an upaid job when they realized it was genuinely unpaid. I know my kids needed jobs that paid. No way could my son have done Disney and worked there in the middle of his college years for free when he went down there even though at the time Florida's minimum wage was $2 less an hour than ours. I supplimented his expenses but I still had to pay his university because while working fulltime he was also a full time student carrying 12 hours. Seeing the youngins my kids age that came through my home they worked their butts off earning their degrees. One of my DD best friends at school had 3 part time jobs. My DD graduated has two jobs still. I'm just not seeing a lot of people not realizing they need to work. Of course there are always some, young and older that fail to grasp but in my life I'm hard pressed to think of many.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Paid or unpaid internships are not the focal point here for me. I just can't wrap my head around how this young woman didn't have a clue she wasn't going to get paid? Huh? (My first job was at 14. One of the first things I asked the interviewer was how much was the salary. I recall the interviewer showed me an hourly wage in writing.) I needed the money, so I really wanted to know how much the job paid. (Incidentally, this was just a part-time seasonal job, while I was still in school. It wasn't full-time. And because I was under 16, the working hours were restricted by the Commonwealth of MA. I even had to file for "working papers" at that age.) Anyway, back to this intern--perhaps she wasn't as much in financial need as I was, and maybe that's why the "unpaid" element of this internship didn't register immediately with her, when she accepted the job.

Yes, my kids needed work permits too. If their grades slipped the work permit was pulled and they did have restricted hours here in IL. My kids started as swim instructors and lifeguards, there was a set pay rate that was about 50 cents more than minimum wage. My kids need to work but I also believed they should work because they had to build up a work history. They both were able to move up pay categories as time went on which also looked good on their history. By the time they both graduated college they both had a pretty plump work history.
It is not to say they were absent of being civic minded, they as did we their parent volunteered all over our community and my DD mentored and tutored in local school districts and my DS 2 days a week in a high school in Wisconsin. But I think the difference is giving back in a civic way vs working for free at a for profit business. The park district where my DD works part time still pays their college interns.
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
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I was happy when the laws changed for unpaid interships. Our area cracks down on the criteria for the free labor interships. This became more prevalent when the economy was bad companies were hiring free labor for jobs that really needed to be preformed vs real educational training. Mucked up the whole intership definition.

When caught they are not allowed to have any interns then for a specified amount of time and are monitored by labor board, both the person and the company so if they move onto another company they are required to inform the labor board where they work next. I like that it follows not only the company but the person(s) that break those labor laws. My DS worked for a high profile professional placement firm for contract hires. He did a lot of the grunt work for doing backgrounds on the accountants, engineers etc that they'd place on contracts to firms. He had zero experience with that walking in the door but dang they paid him and it was much better than minimum wage. Even Disney pays their interns.
Maryland has similar laws, but getting experience has been tough. The paid internships are hard to come by (for instance, Disney's program is very competitive), and students need experience, especially since a lot of degree programs require internships. Unpaid internships have very specific requirements and criteria they have to meet.

For this intern, I offered to talk to my manager about putting her on payroll. I told her I don't have that authority, but I would talk to my manager about it. My manager probably would have said yes too just because I asked. Instead, she sent me this really long text message that said "With all due respect" with was neither respectful nor professional.

Just for fun, I investigated her Linked In profile. She got her Associates degree, switched from Business Administration to Human Resources Management. Then, she went to another public college in the southern part of the state. It looks like she was only there for one or two semesters before switching schools. She had a job in January that she worked for about a month. It seems like she bounces around and when she's not happy, goes someplace else.

My company is transitioning into a dual paid/unpaid HR internship program. We're going to interview lots of interns, and then good ones we'll offer paid internships, while students aren't as strong but want experience, we'll offer the unpaid internship. I talked to the owners and told them I really need an intern on Fridays, so we posted on several college websites for a paid intern to come in and work on Fridays. Our broker interns are paid on commission, same as professionals, and our Financial Advisor interns are dual paid/unpaid. We have quite a few Asian students who don't really care whether they get paid or not; they just need the experience. My company also prefers to hire from their internship program. I'm not sorry at all that I got experience from unpaid internships. It led to this paid position, and when I graduate, I'll have a year's worth of part time professional experience. Not bad at all.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Maryland has similar laws, but getting experience has been tough. The paid internships are hard to come by (for instance, Disney's program is very competitive), and students need experience, especially since a lot of degree programs require internships. Unpaid internships have very specific requirements and criteria they have to meet.

For this intern, I offered to talk to my manager about putting her on payroll. I told her I don't have that authority, but I would talk to my manager about it. My manager probably would have said yes too just because I asked. Instead, she sent me this really long text message that said "With all due respect" with was neither respectful nor professional.

Just for fun, I investigated her Linked In profile. She got her Associates degree, switched from Business Administration to Human Resources Management. Then, she went to another public college in the southern part of the state. It looks like she was only there for one or two semesters before switching schools. She had a job in January that she worked for about a month. It seems like she bounces around and when she's not happy, goes someplace else.

My company is transitioning into a dual paid/unpaid HR internship program. We're going to interview lots of interns, and then good ones we'll offer paid internships, while students aren't as strong but want experience, we'll offer the unpaid internship. I talked to the owners and told them I really need an intern on Fridays, so we posted on several college websites for a paid intern to come in and work on Fridays. Our broker interns are paid on commission, same as professionals, and our Financial Advisor interns are dual paid/unpaid. We have quite a few Asian students who don't really care whether they get paid or not; they just need the experience. My company also prefers to hire from their internship program. I'm not sorry at all that I got experience from unpaid internships. It led to this paid position, and when I graduate, I'll have a year's worth of part time professional experience. Not bad at all.

Asian? As in international students on work study visas? Or Asian US citizens?
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Hahaaa...! Thanks! :)
Yea, the clients that were in today got a kick out of it, so I think it will be hanging there for the foreseeable future.
It's just so funny mixed in with all our other legit client renderings...!!! :hilarious: :cautious: ;) :)

I just loved it. Brought a smile to my face. What a great icebreaker in a conference room too, just lightens the mood.
 

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