The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Lets use that logic to all companies.
Exxon primary job is to produce money by Oil.
So that means I can defend them every time theres a oilspill because "Exxon is a business!, They need to earn money! The cost cuts are required! even if their ships are falling apart!".

Get my point?
Just because its "cold hard truth" doesn't means it should be the norm.

There is a difference. What Disney is doing is NOT unethical. Polluting a common resource is.

Increasing prices on something you don't absolutely need is not an ethics issue. No one absolutely has to have a vacation to WDW, or absolutely has to have their merchandise. Increasing the price of EpiPens is unethical; people need them for life-threatening emergencies. Disney raising the prices of merchandise that you want, not need, is unethical.

Also, let';s nose the "if everyone does this, I should do this" mentality is also damaging.
If I punch in the gut, and then someone else punches you in the

My point was not that Disney is copying anyone else. Disney, along with other businesses, is running their business to maximize profit, and it happens that their price point is similar to that of others. That shows generally how the industry and the economy in general is at this point.

I've seen almost everything from the emporium in the shops that are by Universal Studios at a fraction of the cost.
Disney technically is a powerhouse now that they also handle and control the line of toys of Star Wars and other big merchandises.
Pretty sure their costs are minimal and ultra maximized for efficiency(they have a merchandise guy running the parks for gods sake. Now lets not forget that most parks are no longer offering exclusive content for each park, most are under the "Disney Parks" brand now).

Uni still is not as popular as WDW. They get about 25.8 million visitors in all their parks worldwide. Disney gets 112.5 million visitors worldwide. When Disney was getting 25.8 million visitors per year, they were charging lower prices as well.

While their manufacturing process is optimized, they still can't sell an unlimited amount. Their shelves and storage facilities aren't unlimited. They have a limited number of employees. Think about the shops at Main Street during park closing, when people tend to look before they get out. Now think about how even more busy they would be if the merchandise prices were overall decreased and people buy more than they already do. At their busiest points.

Now if all of their merchandise were sold online, with no limitations of brick and mortar stores and having to be physically present to purchase merchandise, then producing more and lowering prices would make sense. But since they have stores, and since their stores can only sell so much in a given period, keeping their prices higher makes sense. Selling more also always, always, always increases overhead.

Worth nothing that games like the Orioles are a single time events. Not almost 12/7/364(if not longer) as Disney Parks.
There are 162 games per year. About half of those games are home games. Their store is open year-round, which means they get traffic year round, especially since a lot of people go down that way for events at M&T bank. Definitely not a one-time thing.

We may not like Disney's prices, but there is a logic behind their pricing. If they discover it's not working, they can change it. But considering that they're making a LOT of money, they don't seem to need to lower their prices. Again, I don't agree with everything Disney does (you should hear my TofT Guardians of the Galaxy rant), but when it comes to pricing, their price points make sense, even though they do hurt my wallet.
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
makes me wonder. How do they duplicate these cards? arent supposed to be un-duplicable now with the chip?
Obviously, they are not infallible.

I'm actually wondering if it got stolen a while ago. There were some Noodles and Company locations up here that were hacked, including one I went to once, and I'm pretty sure the card I used was the one that had the fraudulent charges. Then again, it could have been stolen elsewhere. Who knows.
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
good luck with that. being carless is darn annoying. Specially if you're constantly on the move to do shores.
Thanks. Yes, it does stink. I'm hoping they'll let me have a loaner if they'll need it for more than a day or so. I'm finally old enough where they'll give me a loaner. My mom let me drive her car to do the errands she needed me to do. I'm hoping she'll let me borrow the car so I can go to Target tomorrow.

At least it happened this week. Next week I have school. That would not be good, especially since I have a night class on Tuesdays and neither of my parents could drive me to that class.
 

FutureCEO

Well-Known Member
There is a difference. What Disney is doing is NOT unethical. Polluting a common resource is.

Increasing prices on something you don't absolutely need is not an ethics issue. No one absolutely has to have a vacation to WDW, or absolutely has to have their merchandise. Increasing the price of EpiPens is unethical; people need them for life-threatening emergencies. Disney raising the prices of merchandise that you want, not need, is unethical.

Bad merchandise. Not bad as in bad; bad as in horrible, ugly. Of course that is for some things.

I'm one person but yet I want the attraction drink coasters and I already have Mickey coasters. Set of 6.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
Obviously, they are not infallible.

I'm actually wondering if it got stolen a while ago. There were some Noodles and Company locations up here that were hacked, including one I went to once, and I'm pretty sure the card I used was the one that had the fraudulent charges. Then again, it could have been stolen elsewhere. Who knows.

Sorry that happened to you. Those numbers are sold on the black market, and sometimes they "sit" in a queue (sometimes for months), until the thieves start using them. When the individual card numbers get shut down by Visa or whatever, the thieves move on to the next group of stolen numbers on their list, and charge up more fraudulent charges. Vicious cycle. (Also a chip won't protect from "online" purchasing, which is easy to do when buying airline tickets, for example.)
 

Songbird76

Well-Known Member
My mom's mother was controlling that way. Her mother insisted her older sister go to a specific college and commute. Her older sister wanted to get out of that house, but my grandmother vetoed all of the options her sister came up with. My grandmother was determined to keep her in the house. So her sister got married as a way of getting out. It had to be because she just wanted out because she eventually left her husband. Just decided she didn't love him anymore, left him to raise their daughters.

My grandmother didn't approve of my dad at all. I've no idea why; he was a decent guy, going to law school, and my dad's father was my mom's father's best friend. The only thing I can figure is that no one would have ever been good enough for her kids. And also my dad is a smart a** and was evidently worse when he was young. Anyway, my grandmother pulled the money for my mom's college education, and like her sister, my mom dropped out. She married my dad when she was 19, and her parents refused to attend her wedding and basically cut her off. Being a similar age that my mom, I realize even more how truly horrible that was of her parents. And yes, she was much easier on my mom's brother.

But think about it this way: you've learned a lot about what not to do with your kids. My mom is very easygoing, ans I think part of that was her determination to not be her mother. I'm sure the same will be true of you. :)
I'm trying to be easygoing. I've told the kids that THEY decide what they wear as long as it's weather appropriate and covers everything that needs to be covered. I'm constantly telling DD that she doesn't HAVE to like something (or pretend to) because I like it. So far, I think I'm doing alright. But my mom was the same way as you described. There was no way I could have commuted to college as there wasn't one in our area, so I never had to deal with that, and I paid for college all on my own with scholarships, grants, and working. So she had nothing to hold over my head. She all but disowned me when I got engaged without her permission. She told me that I was forbidden to be engaged and she wouldn't give me permission. I told her I was pretty sure that they weren't going to ask for it. I ended up calling that wedding off...he wasn't the right guy for me and it was more to prove to her that I DIDN'T need her permission than that I actually was in love with him. She wrote me 9 page letters telling me how awful I was, and how she didn't understand why I wasn't doing what she told me to do. (I was 19 and off at college) And why was I rebelling NOW? I wrote back that it wasn't rebelling...it was being independent, which at 19, I was legally allowed to do and as she wasn't contributing a penny to my education or living expenses, she didn't really have any authority to tell me what to do. She wrote to my friends, telling them to "fix" me and make me mind her. Yeah...I would have had a GREAT time living at home in college. :rolleyes:
 

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