The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

[seahawk7]

I love twitter. I'd say 98% of what I follow is Disney. Some great photos. Things like when both times the FLE attractions caught fire that was the source of the breaking news. But I can go a week without looking at Twitter, like the week leading up to Christmas. I kinda kept an eye on twitter while in WDW. Could see things like when Splash went down so I could gauge apx when it would cycle and be brought up. My DD and I were on Thunder when it unexpectedly reopened, a CM gave me a heads up and DD and I were in line first. Those CMs thought we were nuts, I knew better, they were surprised. I posted our view from our seats that Thunder was back from Rehab.

For the most part all I post on Twitter is photos, it is an easy quick upload and I can copy the ULR, after I delete 3/4 of them after slurping up the ULR. It is a great waste of time in lines at WDW or in lines around here. I don't do facebook so twitter is it for me.

As for the dude, he is a well regarded scientist. He is African American. He is Agnostic. I have seen him quoted over the years on the later two. He has little interest in talking about life being Black more his accomplishments and theories. In a nutshell his thoughts on God any God are it doesn't add up scientifically, no matter which religious God it is. Expanding on that he usually quips I don't waste time trying to discredit what others spend centuries killing one another over, who's God is better or the real one. I was taken back by his sudden and out of character comments on Christmas. Seemed to have a bug in his bonnet Thursday.

I read his tweets to see what everyone was talking about. In my opinion, for what it's worth, is he demonstrated bad manners. If he is Agnostic, fine, but he should refrain on sharing those beliefs on a day that is celebrated for Jesus. It's just polite. If I insulted anyone with this post, I apologize because that is not my intent.

 

[seahawk7]

I read some of his tweets and some of his twits were definitively out of character.. but still based on scientific studies.
He probably tried to talk scientifically about some of the myths of the 25th. The dates of Jesus being born and other dates that did not appear(or were inconsistent) in most of the original old versions of the bible.

You said twits instead of tweets! Was that subconscious?

 

[seahawk7]

I read the tweets. As an Evangelical Christian, I wasn't overly offended.

He was aiming to be provocative. He succeeded.
I didn't lose any sleep over it. Of course, that may have been the cough medicine.

Yeah I wasn't offended either. I think tolerance is a thing to be cultivated.

 

[seahawk7]

You weren't offended because there was nothing to be offended about. He didn't once put down or compare it to Christmas day or the birth of Christ. It was a completely different topic. One had nothing to do with the other. It was just one group of people deciding that saying that Newton was important to our world and was born on Dec. 25 didn't mean that he was putting down the other famous Dec. 25th birthday. It didn't say that Newtons was more important or less important, he left that up to others to privately decide for themselves. It was an imagined slam with really no basis on it's own.

Even if it did, he had a right to express it or is that precious freedom of speech only for Christians?

If someone was offended by it they have every right to be just like he has every right to express himself.

 

[seahawk7]

It doesn't seem out of direction to me. In fact, it seems to be exactly in his wheelhouse. He is a scientist and the fact that Newton was born on that day had no message in it at all, that I could see. It wasn't meant as a put down of Christianity and someone has to have a very active imagination to even come up with that. It was a person celebrating the birthday of someone that was truly significant to how we function today. And it is the truth. Never once did he say that Christ didn't have an influence. He would have been an idiot to imply that, he would have known that the conscience influence on the "christian" world is huge. Since, however, Christianity is not a world majority, perhaps Newton did indeed affect all of us as a world population more.

EDIT: To put a finer point on it, if Walt Disney's Mother had given birth to him on December 25th instead of the 5th and someone said that he was a major influence on the world... would we be arguing about it or saying how "unchristian" it was?

The connotation was there. I had no problem with what he said but I'm sensitive to the fact that others might be. Yeah people can say what they want but if some were upset then they were because of the implication. Like I said, I felt no offense.

 

[seahawk7]

That's very exciting. Thank you for sharing. ( )

I think we can designate @FutureCEO as the resident "little brother" if that's OK with you FutureCEO? He is just so cute and funny.

 

[seahawk7]

So my daughter's 20th birthday is January 3rd. (That's right @MOXOMUMD, she is a Cappy like you!) So I was at the Disney store in the mall and I got her a limited edition Tiana and her prince. It's in a case so it stays nice. Tiana is her favorite princess and I always stand in line with her to meet her every year.

 

[seahawk7]

I just want to say regarding the tweet discussion here that I think everyone had valid points and I respect everyone's opinions on the subject. I think we have good group here who is supportive of each other so when people here have differing opinions, we can give each other the space to think differently. I appreciate everyone who posts here. (Not that I don't appreciate people on other threads but I ramble on.) Anyhoo, I wish everyone a good night.

 

[Goofyernmost]

If someone was offended by it they have every right to be just like he has every right to express himself.

The connotation was there. I had no problem with what he said but I'm sensitive to the fact that others might be. Yeah people can say what they want but if some were upset then they were because of the implication. Like I said, I felt no offense.

While I agree that if there was a provable connection of what was said was a real assault on someones beliefs, then, of course, they have every right to respond and express themselves. My argument here is that there was an implication by imagination. Nothing was said in the original post that ever implied an intentional omission of any other entity allegedly born on the same date.

I have to draw the line at making up implications just based on ones own feelings and not taking into account exactly what the "offender" was trying to say. I see, from his past and even current communications that he has a fairly advanced intellect and although he probably knew that it was going to cause a stir, mostly because of his knowledge of how the mind works. He set it up and everyone was expecting the topic to be Christmas when it was not intended to be. Without those direct words and without knowing for sure what was being implied, if anything, then it just became a situation of falsely accusing someone of something wrong when it was nothing of the sort according to his words. That isn't defensible for anyone or part of freedom of speech. He spoke only the truth, everyone else leaped to a conclusion that was unprovable and therefore amounted to nothing more then reactionary gossip.

I, however, am also making too much of it, so I will stop from my end. It's how I see it, others obviously see it differently. That's OK as long as they don't try to attach a witch hunt to a statement that really said or did nothing wrong. That just isn't good in my opinion.

 

[Wrangler-Rick]

Try growing up Ukrainian ... nothing gets put away until after the 7th.

We always kept ours up until after Three Kings Day! It's nice to let the Christmas spirit hang around for a while! I know some folks who have their trees down the day after Christmas. Never could quite understand that....

 

[Gabe1]

Jack! Whatcha doing Jack!

 

[FutureCEO]

I think we can designate @FutureCEO as the resident "little brother" if that's OK with you FutureCEO? He is just so cute and funny.

 

[FutureCEO]

It happened again. Another airliner lost contact.

 

[Gabe1]

I read his tweets to see what everyone was talking about. In my opinion, for what it's worth, is he demonstrated bad manners. If he is Agnostic, fine, but he should refrain on sharing those beliefs on a day that is celebrated for Jesus. It's just polite. If I insulted anyone with this post, I apologize because that is not my intent.

Eloquently stated.

 

[Gabe1]

It happened again. Another airliner lost contact.

Oh Dear, where? Prayers. Just makes my heart sink.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

I read his tweets to see what everyone was talking about.

I still have no idea what is going on.

This is what happens when I go on vacation. I get behind.

Also, I have a rule about reading the news during the day on vacation ever since I found out Robin Williams died in the middle of Epcot.

Fun stuff only. Like Captain Picard in this hat...

 

[Gabe1]

 

[StarWarsGirl]

Internet here is carp.

Can't see the pic without hitting reply.

 

[JenniferS]

It happened again. Another airliner lost contact.

I know. Unbelievable!

 

[Gabe1]

Internet here is carp.

Can't see the pic without hitting reply.

Well it is Disney Internet afterall.