The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Figgy1

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Thanks, Figgy! :)
I haven't really hyped this one, 'cause we're only gonna' be there for 3 days of a whirlwind trip for the Princess 5K (I hope my feets will be OK, after my recent fun :cyclops: ;)). But, yes, any Disney trip is cause for celebration...!!! :joyfull: :)
I'd be dancing even if was for only for 3 hours. I hope your feet make it through with no pain! Good luck.
 
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Songbird76

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I agree. @Songbird76 I believe Beaches and Cream has become wildly popular and the reason for why this small place originally created for their resort guests at that hotel is anything but that now. During busier times they tend not to even take up walk ups at all and the take out part limits what creations they will make frequently.

If B&C is a must do I'd make a reservation for a day that you might be hopping between the Studios and the World Showcase. With Sea Shore Sweets closing on the boardwalk I can only imagine B&C ADRs becoming more coveted, similar to daytime BOG
Oh, I completely plan on making an ADR, not just walking in. But we are only in the resort for 10 days, and I can only make my ADRs for those 10 days. I have to wait another week or so before I can make ADRs for the time after we check out of the resort.
 

Figgy1

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Yep, if the teen years only bring a few faces and a little complaining, then you'll be as fortunate as we were. It wasn't perfect, but, never any major teen angst/drama, and definitely no drug or alcohol issues. Considering my not-so-pristine past, believe me, I'd know for sure... :oops: ;)
Hang in there, it sounds like y'all are raising them properly...! :)
THNX he has plans next weekend and I'm not making him go to his grandparents we'll just reschedule that dinner.
 

Songbird76

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Yup, Mom and I got into fights, in high school everyone else had a 10pm curfew. I had to be home at 9pm. I mouthed off to her one too many times and she slapped me across the face real hard. I never crossed her again. But a lot of resentment grew. Mom kept telling us that her son "the oldest", could do no wrong. He had no curfew. Came in after 2 in the morning. Got a 15 year old girl pregnant. So I guess sister had more privileges. Then I came late. Mom watched my every move. So difficult. I felt I got to live when in college. The worst we did, was get out some packing boxes and push each other up and down the halls (after bed time). So fun. Once we all got locked out on the roof of our building, all girls in that day. We made our beds to look like we were sleeping in them. So at bed check everyone was "asleep". We were so innocent. I was brought up with a strong sense of right and wrong. I modified my parenting with DD. When she got a car, and she was responsible, we let go of her. Let her make the decisions for her life. She has not disappointed. She had very nice friends through high school, and they spent many fun evenings at our house. We went to the bedroom and told them just don't tear the house down? Most were gone by 11pm.
My curfew in high school was "Dark". Unless I was with my brother. I remember one year in the summer, I must have been about 16 and my friend called and asked if I wanted to go for a walk. My brother had just walked out the door to go to his best friend's house...it was about 7:00pm. So I said sure, and I went to put my coat on and my mom asked where I thought I was going, and I said for a walk and she said no I most certainly wasn't, it was going to be dark in an hour or so and I wasn't leaving the house. I asked why my brother was allowed to go, but I wasn't and she said it was because I was a girl. Boys can't get pregnant, so she didn't have to worry about him going out after dark. I plan on doing things VERY differently with my kids. I saw college the same way you did...I finally got to have a LIFE. I remember in high school, after my sophomore year, I got accepted to an academic summer program at the university of Wyoming. I got there and they told us we had to be back to the dorm by 9:00 pm...everyone groaned, but I was EXCITED. I'd never been allowed to stay out that late before. It was so much more freedom than I was used to, and that made it really easy to follow the rules there! When I got to college, the first night I was there, I stayed out until after midnight, just because I could and no one could tell me I couldn't.
 

Songbird76

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Yep. We all have different lines for our kids, I certainly did. With us college hit during a horrible financial time for this country. Not only did it drastical impact our earnings for several years it hit our investments and made funds for college students for scholarships and grants dwindle away. State and Federal Funding also drastically cut to so many Universities.

The cost of a 4 year degree increased 500 percent since 1999.

Few people had the ability to regroup for those types of increases or time to rebound after the country's economy dipped. Like WDW Universities just kept raising fees, tuition and board so far beyond the CPI to cover what was covered by State and Federal Income Tax. We did the most we could with the promise they could stay with us as long as they wished trying to pay down the debt. I hear many people pick at young adults coming back home after graduating college and not 'wanting' to move out.I find it an over simplification of the problems for so many young people most of which want to move forward. It is difficult to compare my college years, college years of 15 years ago to now. Both of my kids were still in college at 21, both Juniors. No way could I walk away from the support we gave them.

Our state in particular has yet to make any financial payments Universities and where they have it isn't close to what budgets are built on. Our state just didn't send the million dollars they allocated for our public schools here. Crazy. I did not worry so much about my kids living with me they were not an issue, I worried more they would find careers with their degrees. It took both of them a bit after interviewing a great deal to land in a career which wasn't a surprise given what the economy had done and how many governmental and private sectors downsized.
I lived with my mom after I graduated from college, but that was more because my mom needed someone to take care of her. I got a job teaching music at an elementary school in the next town over...40 miles away, but it meant I could live with my mom, help pay rent since she was unable to work, take her to her chemo appointments and radiation treatments, cook for her, arrange meals while I was gone during the day, etc. But it did save me money as well.
But my mom wanted me to live with her during college. She wanted to move to Laramie so I could live with her. I told her I wasn't going to live with her...I was going to live in the dorms. She got angry and told everyone I wouldn't let her move. I told her she was welcome to move if she wanted to, I just wasn't going to live with her. I never rebelled, but I was biding my time until college when I could finally be independent, make my own choices about where I was going when, etc. I wasn't going to have a guy ask me out on a date and tell him I had to be home by dark or I'd get grounded. I was 19 and I wasn't going to ask permission to go to the movies with my friends. I knew if I lived in the dorms, since I was paying for college myself, she would have no authority over me anymore. If I lived with her, I'd be subject to her rules...and that would mean being home by dark unless I was in class, not being allowed to go to out without permission, not being allowed to wear make-up, not being allowed to spend my own money without permission, and not being allowed to have a boyfriend, or maybe even date. I wasn't going to live like that as an adult, so I refused. It caused some major problems with our relationship because she couldn't stand to not have the control, but it was what I needed. I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing if kids come home and live with their parents after college if the arrangement works for them, but it depends on the people. It sounds like you had a much more realistic view and expectations than my mother. You wanted to help, my mother wanted to control.
 

Songbird76

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Some of the parent's weirds 22 rules for their kids are so funny
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Ok that last one is very strange. My husband said when he went to one cousin's house, they had to eat their snacks standing at the kitchen counter in case they dropped crumbs or something...the cousin's mom was kind of OCD and wanted everything to stay clean so they weren't allowed to eat anywhere but the counter, so she could just wipe it down when they were done.
 

Figgy1

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Ok that last one is very strange. My husband said when he went to one cousin's house, they had to eat their snacks standing at the kitchen counter in case they dropped crumbs or something...the cousin's mom was kind of OCD and wanted everything to stay clean so they weren't allowed to eat anywhere but the counter, so she could just wipe it down when they were done.
I have a no food in their rooms rule but i keep finding dishes and crumbs in them:rolleyes:
 

Songbird76

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I am so glad I have two strong-willed parents so that when one was being ridiculous the other would tell they were being ridiculous.
My husband and I do that, but we have a deal not to say anything in front of the kids. The kids have to believe that we agree on everything or they will USE it and play us against each other. So if one of us is being ridiculous, depending on the situation, the other will jump in and say "I'll handle this, go cool down" or wait until the kids are in bed and say "hey, don't do that, because...." Like, DS HATES being tickled...I think he has some sensory issues because he doesn't like loud noises and he always wants to take socks and pants and stuff off because they itch. So tickling is very uncomfortable for him and I don't tickle him. But hubby started tickling him the other day and wouldn't stop until he said "Mercy" but he didn't understand he was supposed to say it, so hubby just kept going and DS is saying "stop!" (he was laughing, so I wasn't TOO worried) so I told him to say Mercy, but there's this whole series here that you say..first it's "Mercy, Father" and then "A pot of ink" and then " <child's name> stinks"...anyway, he kept going until DS said the things, but he got so frustrated he finally just started crying and hubby got mad at him and told him if he didn't stop crying he would have to go to his room. In hubby's mind, he was just playing a game and DS got mad for no reason because all he had to do to make him stop was repeat the phrases. So later, I explained to hubby that that wasn't fair. He KNOWS DS hates to be tickled, then you tell him you'll stop if he says a certain phrase, so he does, but you don't stop, and then tell him he has to say something ELSE to make it stop....which he does, and then you STILL don't stop, you want him to say something else. He doesn't know how long it's going to go on, and you've basically now lied to him 3 times, telling him you'll stop if he repeats it, and then you don't. There's a certain point at which that's being a bully...he's not having fun anymore and you are torturing him for your own amusement because it's funny to YOU. So hubby went and talked to DS later and apologized for it. But if I'd said something in front of the kids, it makes daddy look bad, whereas if he goes back later and apologizes, it makes them respect that he can admit when he's wrong. It sets a good example.
 

Songbird76

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My aunt had a once-per-year free pass day for her kids. One time, her youngesr wanted to go to the zoo with his baby cousin (me). We all went to the zoo.

The plastic on the furniture one reminds me of Everybody Loves Raymond.
My friend had to make her bed and have room inspection every day and once her mom had inspected everything, she wasn't allowed to sit on her bed for the rest of the day until bedtime, so the bedding wouldn't get rumpled.
 

Songbird76

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I grew up with plastic on our living room furniture. But then again we were not allowed in the living room. Nobody was. A concept I still do not grasp. It was for company and holidays. Both rare in the 365 days a year. I love that Raymond episode. Flashback for me.

My kids always got pulled out of school for Disney for a couple weeks each year. But I did pull them for fun things every now and then when weekends just wouldn't do. I remember when my DD got out of kindergarten one fall, it was a beautiful afternoon, we had tried to go apple picking but the weather wasn't cooperating. We went to my DS school and pulled him at lunch, a family thing ya know, and the three of us went apple picking. My DS still remembers the day I yanked him out of school to pick apple from a real tree.
That sounds so fun!! We can't do that here as you get a hefty fine if the kids aren't in school when they aren't sick. But we have a tradition for report card day....that's dessert day. They get to eat dessert for dinner, as much as they want of it. They look forward to that, and I hope it's something they will remember when they get older.
 

Songbird76

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I have a no food in their rooms rule but i keep finding dishes and crumbs in them:rolleyes:
No food in the rooms seems a perfectly reasonable rule, but the cousins weren't even allowed to sit at the kitchen table or anything. They had to eat OVER the kitchen counter, with a paper towel under their faces so they wouldn't spill and then when they were done, she'd wipe down the counter. That seems a bit excessive to me. But then, I'm not a clean freak.
 

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