The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

catmom46

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It's my turn to play ketchup today. :(

It's the Chit Chat version of Spin the Bottle (of Ketchup!) :D
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MOXOMUMD

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Good morning all. We finally decided not to do an ADR on the night we get to SOG. The boys wanted to do T Rex that night but seeing we won't get to Orlando until after 6 it would be a better idea to just grab something on the way in or eat there. Our first morning is 8am at AK and we have to stop in guest relations before going in so it's early to bed, or if we're too excited and awake we'll go to Poly and watch the water pageant
We seem to always catch EWP from FW. It's one of the best "free" things at WDW.
 

Goofyernmost

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I'm glad it worked out for your daughter. I wonder if it wasn't so much her boyfriend thought it was a great set-up for himself, but your daughter didn't think she needed to move out yet?
I'm sure it was mostly that she didn't feel the need to move out, but, that created a sweet deal for her boyfriend. Even I think he would have been a fool to not see how long that might be able to be stretched. Neither one of them had thought it out, you know, young love and all. There is a lot more to the story, but, suffice it to say, he was/is considerably older then her and had been married before. Not a novice to the game.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
Young teens, on the other hand, just require, in my mind, a certain degree of responsibility and trust that they will do the right thing. What we have as expectations have a tendency to come true, both good and bad. If we think they will screw up and they know it, there is no reason to be expecting anymore from themselves. If we expect them to achieve good things, they will also expect that of themselves. Individual mileage my vary. :)
That's 'cause you were a father to girls. My mom and I battled so much through my young teen years and my father and I never fought. And yes, it was mostly my fault that my mom and I fought because like most middle schoolers, I was a mouthy little brat who thought she knew everything. Like most middle schoolers. Then, I got to high school, and it flipped. My dad and I would get into it. We still do a good bit. Lawyer+layer's daughter is a bad combination. Still love my dad, will probably always call him when I don't know what to do about the car, but we can definitely argue.

Then again, it also depends on the kid. My brother got into trouble repeatedly in elementary school while I never did. He can push both of my parents' buttons in ways I never could. The funny thing was that my mom somehow did not expect the same teenage angst in my brother that came with me as a teen, and so she still looks surprised. I've said to her before, "Well, what did you expect?" He is generally a good kid though. We both could have been a lot worse.
 

betty rose

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@betty rose I really hope you beat this storm! I am going to need lots of blue sky Disney picks by Wed, which is when it is supposed to hit here. :(:mad:
@figmentfan423 Gettimg my ground hog recipes ready!:cool:
Thanks if I get stuck at the airport I won't be a happy person. The forecast keeps changing, as to timing and amount of snow. I may need major Pixie Dust, or not!;)
 

betty rose

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That's 'cause you were a father to girls. My mom and I battled so much through my young teen years and my father and I never fought. And yes, it was mostly my fault that my mom and I fought because like most middle schoolers, I was a mouthy little brat who thought she knew everything. Like most middle schoolers. Then, I got to high school, and it flipped. My dad and I would get into it. We still do a good bit. Lawyer+layer's daughter is a bad combination. Still love my dad, will probably always call him when I don't know what to do about the car, but we can definitely argue.

Then again, it also depends on the kid. My brother got into trouble repeatedly in elementary school while I never did. He can push both of my parents' buttons in ways I never could. The funny thing was that my mom somehow did not expect the same teenage angst in my brother that came with me as a teen, and so she still looks surprised. I've said to her before, "Well, what did you expect?" He is generally a good kid though. We both could have been a lot worse.
Yup, Mom and I got into fights, in high school everyone else had a 10pm curfew. I had to be home at 9pm. I mouthed off to her one too many times and she slapped me across the face real hard. I never crossed her again. But a lot of resentment grew. Mom kept telling us that her son "the oldest", could do no wrong. He had no curfew. Came in after 2 in the morning. Got a 15 year old girl pregnant. So I guess sister had more privileges. Then I came late. Mom watched my every move. So difficult. I felt I got to live when in college. The worst we did, was get out some packing boxes and push each other up and down the halls (after bed time). So fun. Once we all got locked out on the roof of our building, all girls in that day. We made our beds to look like we were sleeping in them. So at bed check everyone was "asleep". We were so innocent. I was brought up with a strong sense of right and wrong. I modified my parenting with DD. When she got a car, and she was responsible, we let go of her. Let her make the decisions for her life. She has not disappointed. She had very nice friends through high school, and they spent many fun evenings at our house. We went to the bedroom and told them just don't tear the house down? Most were gone by 11pm.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
I had more problems after they finished college. I tried to give them some transition time, to get a job, and find a place to live, because as soon as they reached 21, I felt that my obligation to support, financially, was coming close to finishing up. My youngest started to get in the habit of spending the night at her boyfriends place, then he would drop her off in the morning, where she came in and used the shower, ate breakfast, lunch and dinner and then left again when he was done work.

Not only did it bother me that I felt she was being treated like a girl (of the trade), but, what a racket her boyfriend had going for him. We sat down with her and told her that this was not working for us. We loved her and because of that it really hurt to think she was being used like this. She assured us it was really love. In that case, I said, there should be no problem with you two sharing all day, everyday. If he felt the same, then at least make the commitment to share your lives, either by marriage or cohabitation, but the idea of running back home to Mommy and Daddy in the morning was not working.

She moved out and into his place that week. I was fine with that, in fact, I helped her move. I don't have any desire to make moral judgements about how two adults live their lives and I felt amazingly better not witnessing or being used myself for the purpose of "being handy". They lived together for about 3 years and got married. Eighteen years later (21 total), they are still together and doing well. All of us were a lot happier with those arrangements. (Except MY Mother who was totally flabbergasted about it. Good thing it was my daughter and not hers.)

I still am involved with both my girls when situations arise. It was a difficult thing for all of us, but, in our case I think that it established that I trusted them to take care of their own lives, not be dependent on us forever and trust that I will tell them if I think they are heading in a direction that will be harmful to them. Not my business anymore and I would never interfere without being asked, but, they know I am there to help if I can. So, even though they are both over 40 now, I'm here to tell you that parenting never really ends until you do. I am proud that they feel they can come to me with any problem and that they know, I consider them adult equals. That I will help when needed and not as a limitless safety net.

Young teens, on the other hand, just require, in my mind, a certain degree of responsibility and trust that they will do the right thing. What we have as expectations have a tendency to come true, both good and bad. If we think they will screw up and they know it, there is no reason to be expecting anymore from themselves. If we expect them to achieve good things, they will also expect that of themselves. Individual mileage my vary. :)

Yep. We all have different lines for our kids, I certainly did. With us college hit during a horrible financial time for this country. Not only did it drastical impact our earnings for several years it hit our investments and made funds for college students for scholarships and grants dwindle away. State and Federal Funding also drastically cut to so many Universities.

The cost of a 4 year degree increased 500 percent since 1999.

Few people had the ability to regroup for those types of increases or time to rebound after the country's economy dipped. Like WDW Universities just kept raising fees, tuition and board so far beyond the CPI to cover what was covered by State and Federal Income Tax. We did the most we could with the promise they could stay with us as long as they wished trying to pay down the debt. I hear many people pick at young adults coming back home after graduating college and not 'wanting' to move out.I find it an over simplification of the problems for so many young people most of which want to move forward. It is difficult to compare my college years, college years of 15 years ago to now. Both of my kids were still in college at 21, both Juniors. No way could I walk away from the support we gave them.

Our state in particular has yet to make any financial payments Universities and where they have it isn't close to what budgets are built on. Our state just didn't send the million dollars they allocated for our public schools here. Crazy. I did not worry so much about my kids living with me they were not an issue, I worried more they would find careers with their degrees. It took both of them a bit after interviewing a great deal to land in a career which wasn't a surprise given what the economy had done and how many governmental and private sectors downsized.
 

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