The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Songbird76

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Blah. Expensive yes. But if he looked at your vacation airfare alone it would be economical. ;)
Yeah, that's kind of how I feel, too, but I can't MAKE them go to Disney with us. My brother has a history of being TERRIBLE with money and they've just now kind of gotten back on their feet financially. I can't really blame my brother-in-law for being cautious. And we'll have fun with them in South Dakota, too....I just was picturing having a ball in Disney with my niece, who will be 3 then. But there's a lot of fun stuff to do in South Dakota with the kids and just getting to spend time with the family will be amazing.
 

Songbird76

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Time for me to start lunch. It's going to take a couple hours to finish. We are having homemade pizza. I know that sounds like a long time, but I'm slower than slow.
Yum!!! My mom used to make homemade pizza every year for my birthday party....it does take a long time. You have to make the dough, which takes a while in itself, and then you have to make the sauce, which takes a while if you want all the flavors to really blend together. But the end result is SOOOOO worth it!! Way better than take out/delivery.
 

Songbird76

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I can truthfully, and with a lot of gratitude, say that I have never had a problem on a plane. Always got the seat(s) I reserved, have never been bumped and no matter what section of the plane I was in, it got to the airport at the same time as the other sections. The only time that they ever misplaced my luggage was when I was in route to Vietnam and first had a stop over in San Francisco. It was my duffel bag. It was delivered to me the next morning. I don't remember the details about it, but, I would have been in deep do-do if they hadn't been able to locate it. (But, they did.)
We've never lost luggage per se, but our last trip from Orlando back to the Netherlands was a fiasco. The flight was delayed 7 hours because there was something wrong with the plane, but they couldn't get a different plane right away, so because it was delayed, we also missed our connection. (We had flown out of Dusseldorf Germany because it was cheaper than flying from Amsterdam, even though we had a layover in Amsterdam) So we got to Amsterdam and having missed our flight back to Dusseldorf, where our car was parked, we had to have a way to get there. There were a BUNCH of people who were going back to dusseldorf, but rather than just adding another flight, they decided to pile us on a bus, which meant first we had to collect our luggage, go through customs and get it on the bus. So they take us to a baggage carousel where we waited and waited and nothing came. Then they said "Oh...wrong one." and took us to another one....where our luggage did not come out. By this time, my 2 year old was sobbing so I'm standing in an airport with a screaming toddler and a conked out 4 year old, I'm singing to the toddler to calm him, finally got him to sleep and they are trying to rush us through because the bus needs to leave, but our luggage hasn't come out yet. Then they get us our luggage except for one car seat, which they then tell us was unloaded back at the first baggage claim so DH went to go pick it up while I waited with the sleeping munchkins.....and waited and waited....then suddenly they couldn't find the car seat anymore. Then we were told they couldn't wait any longer for the car seat. Everyone else was already on the bus waiting for us and we needed to go. So we get to the bus, where we had been told we would be fed, since it was past lunchtime and we weren't allowed to eat in the airport because we were on a tight schedule and there was no time to stop. We get on the bus and the food has already been distributed and eaten while we were waiting for our car seat and they had given our food to other people and there was nothing left. So we now have a 3-5 hour bus ride to Dusseldorf with 2 small children who are exhausted and haven't eaten in about 20 hours and there's no time to stop anywhere for food and when we get to Dusseldorf, we will be missing a car seat, which it is illegal to transport children without a car seat so we'd be stuck in the airport in Dusseldorf with no way to get one child home or even to a hotel or restaurant. Brilliant. Fortunately, my in-laws also had car seats for when they kids stayed with them, and the route to Germany practically went past their house, so we called them and asked them to come pick the kids up at a gas station along the way where the bus would stop just long enough for the handover, and they could feed the kids and get them to bed so they didn't have to drive all the way to Germany without food and we wouldn't be stuck there with no way to get the kids home. We hand off the kids, ride to Germany, where there is no car seat waiting for us, and we finally get home and find out the car seat was in Dusseldorf on a baggage carousel and they just misinformed us. They wanted my husband to drive back to Dusselforf (2 hours) to pick it up on Monday. He told them that was fine, but as he was supposed to be at work on Monday and he is an engineer, he'd have to take more time off, for which he would expect to be compensated since it was THEIR mistake in losing the car seat, so his time is worth 100 euros per hour, and he'd have to take a whole morning off of work, so they could either pay him 400 euros to come get it, OR they could ship it to us, OR they could pay for us to buy a new car seat...their choice. They shipped it. We tried to make a claim since legally, if the trip is over 1500 miles and is delayed more than 5 hours, they have to compensate you so much per person. But they denied the claim for some reason, which is completely bogus, especially since we paid for a FLIGHT from Amsterdam to Dusseldorf, not a bus ride, and we never got fed, which was also supposed to be included in the cost of the ticket. Fiasco from beginning to end and no compensation whatsoever from the airline. We won't be flying Martin Air/KLM again if we can help it. TERRIBLE service.
 

Figgy1

Premium Member
Yum!!! My mom used to make homemade pizza every year for my birthday party....it does take a long time. You have to make the dough, which takes a while in itself, and then you have to make the sauce, which takes a while if you want all the flavors to really blend together. But the end result is SOOOOO worth it!! Way better than take out/delivery.
Unless you live in the NY metro area LOL
 

Figgy1

Premium Member
We've never lost luggage per se, but our last trip from Orlando back to the Netherlands was a fiasco. The flight was delayed 7 hours because there was something wrong with the plane, but they couldn't get a different plane right away, so because it was delayed, we also missed our connection. (We had flown out of Dusseldorf Germany because it was cheaper than flying from Amsterdam, even though we had a layover in Amsterdam) So we got to Amsterdam and having missed our flight back to Dusseldorf, where our car was parked, we had to have a way to get there. There were a BUNCH of people who were going back to dusseldorf, but rather than just adding another flight, they decided to pile us on a bus, which meant first we had to collect our luggage, go through customs and get it on the bus. So they take us to a baggage carousel where we waited and waited and nothing came. Then they said "Oh...wrong one." and took us to another one....where our luggage did not come out. By this time, my 2 year old was sobbing so I'm standing in an airport with a screaming toddler and a conked out 4 year old, I'm singing to the toddler to calm him, finally got him to sleep and they are trying to rush us through because the bus needs to leave, but our luggage hasn't come out yet. Then they get us our luggage except for one car seat, which they then tell us was unloaded back at the first baggage claim so DH went to go pick it up while I waited with the sleeping munchkins.....and waited and waited....then suddenly they couldn't find the car seat anymore. Then we were told they couldn't wait any longer for the car seat. Everyone else was already on the bus waiting for us and we needed to go. So we get to the bus, where we had been told we would be fed, since it was past lunchtime and we weren't allowed to eat in the airport because we were on a tight schedule and there was no time to stop. We get on the bus and the food has already been distributed and eaten while we were waiting for our car seat and they had given our food to other people and there was nothing left. So we now have a 3-5 hour bus ride to Dusseldorf with 2 small children who are exhausted and haven't eaten in about 20 hours and there's no time to stop anywhere for food and when we get to Dusseldorf, we will be missing a car seat, which it is illegal to transport children without a car seat so we'd be stuck in the airport in Dusseldorf with no way to get one child home or even to a hotel or restaurant. Brilliant. Fortunately, my in-laws also had car seats for when they kids stayed with them, and the route to Germany practically went past their house, so we called them and asked them to come pick the kids up at a gas station along the way where the bus would stop just long enough for the handover, and they could feed the kids and get them to bed so they didn't have to drive all the way to Germany without food and we wouldn't be stuck there with no way to get the kids home. We hand off the kids, ride to Germany, where there is no car seat waiting for us, and we finally get home and find out the car seat was in Dusseldorf on a baggage carousel and they just misinformed us. They wanted my husband to drive back to Dusselforf (2 hours) to pick it up on Monday. He told them that was fine, but as he was supposed to be at work on Monday and he is an engineer, he'd have to take more time off, for which he would expect to be compensated since it was THEIR mistake in losing the car seat, so his time is worth 100 euros per hour, and he'd have to take a whole morning off of work, so they could either pay him 400 euros to come get it, OR they could ship it to us, OR they could pay for us to buy a new car seat...their choice. They shipped it. We tried to make a claim since legally, if the trip is over 1500 miles and is delayed more than 5 hours, they have to compensate you so much per person. But they denied the claim for some reason, which is completely bogus, especially since we paid for a FLIGHT from Amsterdam to Dusseldorf, not a bus ride, and we never got fed, which was also supposed to be included in the cost of the ticket. Fiasco from beginning to end and no compensation whatsoever from the airline. We won't be flying Martin Air/KLM again if we can help it. TERRIBLE service.
Sympathy like. That was beyond bad! I know you can't get here by driving so again sympathies.
 

betty rose

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Good morning it seems we got a bit of ice last night so I'm going nowhere today. My dh can take today off so I'm not even going to try and get him moving until at least 8. He said if the roads improve he'll try and go in a bit late. I just looked outside the carp is still coming down and it's 28 degrees and the wind is howling. I was planning on getting some things done but with all the men home I don't think so:cautious:
Sorry about your weather, I hope it improves soon. I hope you have activities to keep the men busy!;)
 

betty rose

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Yum!!! My mom used to make homemade pizza every year for my birthday party....it does take a long time. You have to make the dough, which takes a while in itself, and then you have to make the sauce, which takes a while if you want all the flavors to really blend together. But the end result is SOOOOO worth it!! Way better than take out/delivery.
We have really bad pizza in our area, so I'm forced to make my own. But, you are so right, it's worth it to make it yourself. That way I get what I want.
 

betty rose

Well-Known Member
We've never lost luggage per se, but our last trip from Orlando back to the Netherlands was a fiasco. The flight was delayed 7 hours because there was something wrong with the plane, but they couldn't get a different plane right away, so because it was delayed, we also missed our connection. (We had flown out of Dusseldorf Germany because it was cheaper than flying from Amsterdam, even though we had a layover in Amsterdam) So we got to Amsterdam and having missed our flight back to Dusseldorf, where our car was parked, we had to have a way to get there. There were a BUNCH of people who were going back to dusseldorf, but rather than just adding another flight, they decided to pile us on a bus, which meant first we had to collect our luggage, go through customs and get it on the bus. So they take us to a baggage carousel where we waited and waited and nothing came. Then they said "Oh...wrong one." and took us to another one....where our luggage did not come out. By this time, my 2 year old was sobbing so I'm standing in an airport with a screaming toddler and a conked out 4 year old, I'm singing to the toddler to calm him, finally got him to sleep and they are trying to rush us through because the bus needs to leave, but our luggage hasn't come out yet. Then they get us our luggage except for one car seat, which they then tell us was unloaded back at the first baggage claim so DH went to go pick it up while I waited with the sleeping munchkins.....and waited and waited....then suddenly they couldn't find the car seat anymore. Then we were told they couldn't wait any longer for the car seat. Everyone else was already on the bus waiting for us and we needed to go. So we get to the bus, where we had been told we would be fed, since it was past lunchtime and we weren't allowed to eat in the airport because we were on a tight schedule and there was no time to stop. We get on the bus and the food has already been distributed and eaten while we were waiting for our car seat and they had given our food to other people and there was nothing left. So we now have a 3-5 hour bus ride to Dusseldorf with 2 small children who are exhausted and haven't eaten in about 20 hours and there's no time to stop anywhere for food and when we get to Dusseldorf, we will be missing a car seat, which it is illegal to transport children without a car seat so we'd be stuck in the airport in Dusseldorf with no way to get one child home or even to a hotel or restaurant. Brilliant. Fortunately, my in-laws also had car seats for when they kids stayed with them, and the route to Germany practically went past their house, so we called them and asked them to come pick the kids up at a gas station along the way where the bus would stop just long enough for the handover, and they could feed the kids and get them to bed so they didn't have to drive all the way to Germany without food and we wouldn't be stuck there with no way to get the kids home. We hand off the kids, ride to Germany, where there is no car seat waiting for us, and we finally get home and find out the car seat was in Dusseldorf on a baggage carousel and they just misinformed us. They wanted my husband to drive back to Dusselforf (2 hours) to pick it up on Monday. He told them that was fine, but as he was supposed to be at work on Monday and he is an engineer, he'd have to take more time off, for which he would expect to be compensated since it was THEIR mistake in losing the car seat, so his time is worth 100 euros per hour, and he'd have to take a whole morning off of work, so they could either pay him 400 euros to come get it, OR they could ship it to us, OR they could pay for us to buy a new car seat...their choice. They shipped it. We tried to make a claim since legally, if the trip is over 1500 miles and is delayed more than 5 hours, they have to compensate you so much per person. But they denied the claim for some reason, which is completely bogus, especially since we paid for a FLIGHT from Amsterdam to Dusseldorf, not a bus ride, and we never got fed, which was also supposed to be included in the cost of the ticket. Fiasco from beginning to end and no compensation whatsoever from the airline. We won't be flying Martin Air/KLM again if we can help it. TERRIBLE service.
Coming back from Orlando, United left all of our luggage, on the cart . We got to Denver, no one's luggage came out. Some people drove from Wyoming, at least 3 hours, and United wanted them to drive back and pick up the luggage when it got to Denver. People were really angry, and I don't blame them. We had bought lost luggage insurance, so they had to deliver ours, at 3 A.M.
 

betty rose

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Everyone has been talking about air ports. I saw on the news this morning, that the wait in security went from 30minutes to over 3 hours. The lines looked horribly long. So what does TSA do, cut the lines from 3 to 1. That was causing a lot of angry people waiting to go through the security checkpoint. Denver International was clearly blaming TSA for the messed up lines, as they were responsible for staffing.
 

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