castlecake2.0
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Are we going to see the pavilion log used somewhere here? They made such a big deal about that and they never did anything with them at the actual pavilions
Funnily enough, Test Track had the WoM pavilion logo in it iirc.Are we going to see the pavilion log used somewhere here? They made such a big deal about that and they never did anything with them at the actual pavilions
A good guess, but I actually never saw the original TT pre-show, to the best of my knowledge.You must have forgotten the original TT pre-show.
Eh, call it nostalgia, sure, but nostalgia for higher quality, better value, and leadership that cared beyond the dollar signs.The nostalgia pandering is just sad.
Is there any vehicle more iconic and "Americana" than the '57 Chevy?A whole retro advertisement thing would be amazing... Add "It's Fun To Be Free" ...chronologically beginning with their first cars through the decades...and then as you head into the attraction you move into the future....
Is there any vehicle more iconic and "Americana" than the '57 Chevy?
Is there any vehicle more iconic and "Americana" than the '57 Chevy?
Im pegging it at November 2025. If they cut the budget hard then it will indeed open in the summer but with a much smaller amount of changes. If they go all out on it then November will be the opening time. Just in time for the xmas season when crowds are at their largest.So Summer 2025 for Test Track 3.0 is a solid guess?
There's not much budget to cut. GM is paying for it so whatever money they're putting in is going to be used on it. This isn't a normal refurbishment. It's one of the few that is getting a big chunk of change dumped into it thanks to a real sponsor.Im pegging it at November 2025. If they cut the budget hard then it will indeed open in the summer but with a much smaller amount of changes. If they go all out on it then November will be the opening time. Just in time for the xmas season when crowds are at their largest.
Never underestimate budget scrooges. We are only into the early stages and if cost overruns occur they may try to cut this one back. As much as I love to see disney go all out I have to remember all we were promised in the last 5 years and what we got. Even if GM is footing the bill they are not likely to give disney an indefinite blank check so my point still stands. If disney does have a true blank check it will take longer but it will be grander. On the other hand if scrooges prevail we will see an earlier opening and a lot less of the bells and whistles we were expecting. Just stating the sad facts as we have seen in the past.There's not much budget to cut. GM is paying for it so whatever money they're putting in is going to be used on it. This isn't a normal refurbishment. It's one of the few that is getting a big chunk of change dumped into it thanks to a real sponsor.
GM wants their brand to be represented in a good light and having a cheap and poorly done refurbishment isn't the way to do it.
not sure where your coming up with this scenario, neither company would go into this or any other project with a blank check. That is not how it works. This is a continued sponsorship agreement and GM is getting what they want, working with Imagineering with GM footing a lot of the costs based on the agreements, plans, and details.Never underestimate budget scrooges. We are only into the early stages and if cost overruns occur they may try to cut this one back. As much as I love to see disney go all out I have to remember all we were promised in the last 5 years and what we got. Even if GM is footing the bill they are not likely to give disney an indefinite blank check so my point still stands. If disney does have a true blank check it will take longer but it will be grander. On the other hand if scrooges prevail we will see an earlier opening and a lot less of the bells and whistles we were expecting. Just stating the sad facts as we have seen in the past.
Seeing as how WoM was the "original" pavilion icon (the first designed) and it was so heavily featured in WoM and TT 2.0, I think it's a safe bet. That said, I feel like people don't recall just how rarely the icons were actually used within their pavilions. They were always intended as wayfinding tools first and foremost. Many of the original pavilions like Horizons, Wonders of Life, Imagination, CommuniCore, etc. either didn't use their icon inside the building at all or used it for very small things.Are we going to see the pavilion log used somewhere here? They made such a big deal about that and they never did anything with them at the actual pavilions
Totally get that, but they haven’t even really been used for that either. Putting them on the directional signs around the park would have been cool but they didn’t. Not on maps either.Seeing as how WoM was the "original" pavilion icon (the first designed) and it was so heavily featured in WoM and TT 2.0, I think it's a safe bet. That said, I feel like people don't recall just how rarely the icons were actually used within their pavilions. They were always intended as wayfinding tools first and foremost. Many of the original pavilions like Horizons, Wonders of Life, Imagination, CommuniCore, etc. either didn't use their icon inside the building at all or used it for very small things.
Well you can be optimistic all you want. I will just be realistic. To that end I think I may have to bring you back to reality.not sure where your coming up with this scenario, neither company would go into this or any other project with a blank check. That is not how it works. This is a continued sponsorship agreement and GM is getting what they want, working with Imagineering with GM footing a lot of the costs based on the agreements, plans, and details.
You’re not being realistic. What you’ve described is not how the process works. The project isn’t in the early stages. The scope isn’t just now being defined in the field. The construction/installation schedule was worked out months ago before the attraction ever closed.Well you can be optimistic all you want. I will just be realistic. To that end I think I may have to bring you back to reality.
We know all of this is happening. Disney announced that it was an update to Test Track, not a completely new attraction in the former location of Test TrackThat means the inside of the building will be gutted but the existing track system will stay the same. You claim the budget is being handled by gm but if gm had plans this grand they would certainly want to start fresh not with a built in track design that everyone has used before. That suggests GM is not keen on building brand new. They want to reskin. Now if they are reskinning then you gotta question if the ride will use the same vehicle movement. Well unless they are planning on reinventing the wheel so to speak with this ride they will likely use the same drive program which means we get the same ride movement.
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