Rumor Stitch's Great Escape Replacement— Don’t Hold Your Breath

Time_machine

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Tahu said:
Stitch Tiki Room's actually tasteful compared to Under New Management and Great Escape. Stitch hiding and pranking in small ways before revealing himself in the third act is much better then Gilbert Gottfried being loud, abrasive, and insistent on knowing how to pander to the new generation for 15 minutes.
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True. Still, I don't think people here would have ever accepted such a character in the TIki Room at MK.
 
Kman101

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I prefer the Tiki room as is, but the Tokyo version with Stitch doesn't sound AS awful as the Under New Management. That was not good. But they LOVE Stitch in Tokyo. His girlfriend even gets used in shows and meet and greets.
 
brb1006

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Kman101 said:
I prefer the Tiki room as is, but the Tokyo version with Stitch doesn't sound AS awful as the Under New Management. That was not good. But they LOVE Stitch in Tokyo. His girlfriend even gets used in shows and meet and greets.
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Don't forget that they even had an entire parade dedicated to Stitch years ago.
 
Ag11gani

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brb1006 said:
Don't forget that they even had an entire parade dedicated to Stitch years ago.
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Part of me wishes that they would bring this parade to MK, as apart of a summer seasonal celebration. Expect make most of the floats look better since most of them look pretty cheap. But that would never happen anyway. Everybody (on these boards) probably dosn't like this idea also.
 
brb1006

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Ag11gani said:
Part of me wishes that they would bring this parade to MK, as apart of a summer seasonal celebration. Expect make most of the floats look better since most of them look pretty cheap. But that would never happen anyway. Everybody (on these boards) probably dosn't like this idea also.
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Doesn't look cheap, but I didn't expect to see the other Stitch characters besides Lilo or Stitch. As a person who loved the series in the early 2000's it was a treat to watch.
 
Ag11gani

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brb1006 said:
Doesn't look cheap, but I didn't expect to see the other Stitch characters besides Lilo or Stitch. As a person who loved the series in the early 2000's it was a treat to watch.
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It could just be the aesthetic of the floats, which too me look plasticity and also to me plastic looks cheap. Some are fine such as the spaceship paint can one, lab float, ohana float and the one the 3 little pigs are on, possibly a couple others too.
 
RSoxNo1

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Goofyernmost said:
There is reason to agree with one exception. The infrastructure was needed. It was light years behind the times and even though, and we don't really know this for sure, since theme park business is contingent on so many uncontrollable things, that it didn't help to improve income. It may have been the sales approach for the BOD, but, even the best of imaginations can't see exactly how it was going to turn into more money. Novelty perhaps? I don't care if they tracked me all day and found a way to push an item based on what they evaluated to be my interests. It doesn't sell me a thing until I want to buy it. Do we know for sure if all the upcharge things might have been made easier because of it or not? If it did, then there is an additional source of income that no one of us has even connected to the system, but, I'll bet it is instrumental in the management of those programs. In short we do not know exactly what they are getting out of it, but, even, if it wasn't exactly what they had in mind, they got a new expanded system that was needed. Businesses do not run on attractions alone. To be able to keep all that upcharge along with regular information on a single wrist band, has to be a plus not only in efficiency, but, in novelty and control. Even the ending cost was and has been pure speculation. No one person, even within the Disney Company (other then Iger and he's not talking) has complete access to all cost numbers, so accuracy in reporting that is iffy at best.

I will agree that until very recently Iger and Co. have done very little to help the domestic parks, but, it would be easy to see where the investments have been going. Not good for our local parks, but, overall company investment has been defaulted to the overseas investments as far as we can tell with the number one Disney park holding it's own until recently. Now the needed to concentrate on this side of the ponds. Took a little long to figure out that they needed to do something, but, they finally did. Now we see how or if they continue steady improvements or go back to the old ways. Forget about the money spent on that infrastructure, it was needed and not anyplace within the budgets of P&R other then overhead with possible returns. It would not have been spent on anything else. It is usually a completely different line item within the company wide budget.
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You've successfully said nothing in two paragraphs.
 
lazyboy97o

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Goofyernmost said:
It's much more complex then that. It isn't a pure belief in computers or a general feeling of insecurity when something that we don't understand is in control. I may believe that computers are infallible, but, I am also aware that computers like cars are built by humans and because of that are prone to error. How do you fix that mid-mistake? How many times have we heard the statistic that airplanes are safer then automobiles, but, how many thousands of people are still unable to fly due to a fear of something that they don't understand or even because an error in that situation is pretty much catastrophic? Airplanes are computer controlled as long as nothing goes wrong. Would one have been able to land itself in the Hudson like Sully did? Even with override systems, you might as well drive as have to sit there alert to the possible need to over ride things. There were safety systems on the fatal crash of the monorail a few years back. Humans screw that up every time. Wouldn't you want a vehicle to take care of things so you can read a book, take a nap, play cards, etc. instead of drive. Having to sit there watching everything operated isn't exactly much of a gain is it?

Yes, I am a baby boomer and like my father before me that was a airplane mechanic during WWII would never to his dying day ride in a plane because he "knew what could go wrong with them". I understand that doubt. You may or even I may feel that computers are safer then anything, that doesn't mean that the fear will just go away overnight.

But, even then we are talking about theoretical ideas of the dependability of a machine over a human. What the real situation is, is that we can't get the people that provide us with highways to fix the potholes much less alter them to be able to guide automobiles along a path on every highway in the world or even worse to build a whole new highway system parallel to the currently existing ones. It would take years and years to make that transition and like I originally said... many generations will have to have invested in something that they will not be able to actually get a benefit from. There is a huge difference between being able to achieve something technologically and being able to implement it into a full time workable reality.
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You're opinion is meaningless. The vehicles exist. They are operating on roads right now. They are driving paying customers through Singapore and Pittsburg. They exist and so far they are safer than human drivers. That has nothing to do with faith, it is simple fact.

Time_machine said:
That being said, the PeopleMover has become pretty dated considering how many rapid transit systems these days are completely automated (the SkyTrain in Vancouver, the Docklands Light Railway, la ligne 1 et 14 of the Paris métro and so on). I doubt anyone would make a case for removing it from Tomorrowland though.
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The PeopleMover was an old concept when it opened. A continuously moving transit system was demonstrated at the World's Columbian Exposition of 1893 on which Elias Disney worked as a carpenter. Much of the ideas in Progress City and EPCOT dated to the late 19th century.
 
Time_machine

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lazyboy97o said:
The PeopleMover was an old concept when it opened. A continuously moving transit system was demonstrated at the World's Columbian Exposition of 1893 on which Elias Disney worked as a carpenter. Much of the ideas in Progress City and EPCOT dated to the late 19th century.
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I had completely forgotten about that! Funny how some concepts seem to remain futuristic despite how old they really are.
 
Goofyernmost

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RSoxNo1 said:
You've successfully said nothing in two paragraphs.
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And you successfully missed the point in those same paragraphs. I know it's tough to accept that someone might have a different opinion, but, you really outta try. Going through life with blinders on can cause a lot of problems.
lazyboy97o said:
You're opinion is meaningless. The vehicles exist. They are operating on roads right now. They are driving paying customers through Singapore and Pittsburg. They exist and so far they are safer than human drivers. That has nothing to do with faith, it is simple fact.
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Ah yes, and another example of someone who's world is strictly black and white and no other possibilities exist that alter the behavior of things. Fine, no need to worry about it. We shall see how quickly that is adapted in this lifetime.
 
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brb1006

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Ag11gani said:
It could just be the aesthetic of the floats, which too me look plasticity and also to me plastic looks cheap. Some are fine such as the spaceship paint can one, lab float, ohana float and the one the 3 little pigs are on, possibly a couple others too.
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You do have a point about some of the floats looking a bit cheap though. Then again this was before Happiness Is Here came in 2013 which was a pretty fun and creative looking parade.
 
FigmentJedi

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brb1006 said:
To be fair the anime is non-canon and set in an Alternate Universe. Lilo does show up in the anime later on.
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It's non-canon, but it is a sequel. Lilo's reappearance has her as a full-grown woman with a child that looks identical to her younger self because lazy character designers and a very contrived explanation for why Stitch left that misses the entire "Ohana means family" message of the franchise.
 

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