Star Wars: The Acolyte

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
“Great Story, Weak Dialog” could be the Star Wars franchise motto since ‘77.

Except for Andor, of course.
You might want to watch empire and Jedi again…

Not perfect movies…but there are dialogue sequences that harken more to citizen kane more than Star Trek or planet of the apes

That’s why it’s special…and you best know what you’re doing and not mess it up
 

networkpro

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In the Parks
Yes
Please dont start with Michael Giordano's video. We know things are bad without his internal confirmation. Lets stay focused on the episodes and the series as a whole.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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AdventureHasAName

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MoonRakerSCM

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Interviewing about the story they've put together and excited about the character she's playing?

Excited about the fight sequences she got to do and talk about the choreography and her experience being in a Star Wars series?

Promotional poublic guest appearances/fan events?

.... no .... this is what we get. Good lord.
 
Apparently she is now going after people reacting to her video with reporting to YouTube.

Looks like it’s because it’s on channels that have (heavy) monetization?

I don’t think that’s how fair use works…unsure on the monetize part, either way not a good look.
huh? whats happening?
 
You might want to watch empire and Jedi again…

Not perfect movies…but there are dialogue sequences that harken more to citizen kane more than Star Trek or planet of the apes

That’s why it’s special…and you best know what you’re doing and not mess it up
yeah I love to look back at movies of my childhood with rose tinted glasses too and ignore the bad parts.


The OT is special because of combination of all the elements, the VFX, the Story (while basic but effective), the characters and probably most importantly the score.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
yeah I love to look back at movies of my childhood with rose tinted glasses too and ignore the bad parts.


The OT is special because of combination of all the elements, the VFX, the Story (while basic but effective), the characters and probably most importantly the score.

That’s a superficial take we all lived through

No one said in 1990 that Star Wars was well written and acted

What changed was we have since had a huge grind out by studios of just awfully written movies and plots.

Mark hamill was a laughing stock back then he’s been lauded ever since with increasing regality like he’s Lawrence Olivier

I typically am not a good person to spar with over revisionist history.
 

erasure fan1

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yeah I love to look back at movies of my childhood with rose tinted glasses too and ignore the bad parts.
To be fair, he did say
You might want to watch empire and Jedi again…

Not perfect movies…
I don't think that's ignoring the bad parts. The OT has lots of flaws, but nothing on the level of a lot of the Disney era stuff. You see, for every, but I wanted to go to toshi station to pick up some power converters. You got a, No, I am your father. Or let the hate flow through you.

If we had gotten those big moments with Disney, most aren't near as hard on Disney star wars. They did it with rogue one. I know a great many who the movie went from good to fantastic because of the end Vader scene. Truly a top 5 star wars moment in m eyes.
 

sedati

Well-Known Member
huh? whats happening?
An old clip with the Acolyte star was widely circulated insinuating that the goal of this show was to make white people cry. The actual context is far different and its use in this way was frankly disgusting. As an artist she sought a creative way to confront the slander and hate.

This too has been met with slander and hate.
 

Willmark

Well-Known Member
An old clip with the Acolyte star was widely circulated insinuating that the goal of this show was to make white people cry. The actual context is far different and its use in this way was frankly disgusting. As an artist she sought a creative way to confront the slander and hate.

This too has been met with slander and hate.
Too bad this is not what that comment was about. Nice try though.

She recently made a video (as in within the last few days) to address the “haters” then is using YouTube to prevent people from commenting on if it had the video or any parts thereof in it.

She can make all the claims she wants, make any videos she wants etc and fire back at anyone she wants. But to then turn around and limit who can respond to her in kind? That’s likely not going to end well and only emboldened those already attacking her.
 
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That’s a superficial take we all lived through

No one said in 1990 that Star Wars was well written and acted

What changed was we have since had a huge grind out by studios of just awfully written movies and plots.

Mark hamill was a laughing stock back then he’s been lauded ever since with increasing regality like he’s Lawrence Olivier

I typically am not a good person to spar with over revisionist history.

no what happened was the AFI's top 100 greatest movies list coming out in 1998 i think it was. When that was put on the list it gave it legitimacy. It was no longer a fun popcorn movie and all the kids that grew up with thought that meant it was the greatest work of art.

If you think the quality of movies has gotten worse then your off your rocker. I agree you aren't a good person to spar with since you don't seem to understand basic history.
 
An old clip with the Acolyte star was widely circulated insinuating that the goal of this show was to make white people cry. The actual context is far different and its use in this way was frankly disgusting. As an artist she sought a creative way to confront the slander and hate.

This too has been met with slander and hate.
oh that clip? No that wasn't about the Acolyte. This is one of the things the grifters have been claiming. The clip was from 2018 she was talking about the movie The Hate U Give.

 

sedati

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I had a friend that shared my love of Oreos as a child.
As I had a chance to meet with them recently, I brought them a pack of my new favorite, Toffee Crunch.
To my surprise he smacked the gift out of my hands and went into a long rant about the sad state of Oreos today.
Back when we were kids, Oreos were just Oreos, except for when they came out with Double-Stuff which was a sequel that improved upon the original. There was no need for different flavors, colors, etc.
I told him I remembered Mint Oreos which I loved.
He admitted mint Oreos were around back then, but said they were made for babies, not true fans.
"Oh," I said taking the not-to-subtle insult, then tried to move on to other subjects.
He then told me Oreos were ruined forever, that he was done with them.
I told him they still make regular and Double-Stuff.
"Did I stutter?" he said.
"Um..."
He then admonished me for supporting people who would harm children.
"Oh, because of the sugar? I mean, they're meant to be a some-times treat, not a lifestyle."
It was then I was lectured on about Nabisco being sold in 2000 and how the nefarious new owners didn't understand or respect the heritage of the original brand or its fans and was hell bent on destroying it by growing its retail presence in a way that currently dominates the entire cookie aisle of any grocer.
"Huh? Wait,"
Then I was told the true intent of all these "flavors" was for indoctrination into deviant lifestyles, and worse- so much worse that if one dug deep enough they found it led all the way to liberal billionaires consuming the pulp of not only liquified babies, but liquified babies who needed to be properly terrified upon pulping.
"Oh, hey, look at the time- gotta go, nice catching up-bye!"
My head swimming, I couldn't help but look into some of the claims. To my shock, r/oreos, oreomagic.com, twitter, youtube, the yahoo comments for the stock, etc were inundated with similar claims being hammered with a religious ferocity. An entire industry seemed to be built on this hatred of Oreos though I couldn't find much in the way of facts. Oddly, many of the most devoutly anti-Oreo were still doing product reviews and selling their own Oreo related merch.
Many were outraged that Oreos were now Vegan- a sure sign of "woke-ness", not realizing Oreos were always Vegan. Females in the company seemed to be specifically targeted.
Some had legitimate concerns regarding healthiness but were just as likely to tout even less healthy alternatives. Some legitimately hated a few of the new flavors (Hot Wing, Swedish Fish, etc) or corporate decisions but seemed completely dismissive of those who did enjoy them. Some of the most influential had had direct ties to Hydrox and other competitors or foreign interests who they repeatedly tout as good and godly though one or two have been tried in court for some of the crimes they alleged Oreo to be committing.
I did find some shady practices (actual child-labor) as is sadly the case with any mega-conglomeration, but was equally surprised that those were largely ignored by these groups.
Eventually I found that Oreo still has its fans but they seemed more content to enjoy the cookies than spend their precious free time debunking the endless conspiracies online.
;) :cry:
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Too bad this is not what that comment was about. Nice try though.

She recently made a video (as in within the last few days) to address the “haters” then is using YouTube to prevent people from commenting on if it had the video or any parts thereof in it.

She can make all the claims she wants, make any videos she wants etc and fire back at anyone she wants. But to then turn around and limit who can respond to her in kind? That’s likely not going to end well and only emboldened those already attacking her.
So a content creator created a piece of content. Others tried to then use that piece of content that they didn't make themselves to make money off of. That content creator didn't want their brand to be used in that way, which is their right, so they used Youtube's legal mechanism to claim copyright on their content.

This isn't limiting who can respond to her, this is limiting grifters from making money off the content they didn't create and don't have a right to use. Those grifters can make however many and whatever response videos of their own they want without using said piece of content and they wouldn't get copyright claims.
 

Willmark

Well-Known Member
So a content creator created a piece of content. Others tried to then use that piece of content that they didn't make themselves to make money off of. That content creator didn't want their brand to be used in that way, which is their right, so they used Youtube's legal mechanism to claim copyright on their content.

This isn't limiting who can respond to her, this is limiting grifters from making money off the content they didn't create and don't have a right to use. Those grifters can make however many and whatever response videos of their own they want without using said piece of content and they wouldn't get copyright claims.
It’s certainly one way to look at it.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
It’s certainly one way to look at it.
That's the only way to look at it.

If you create something and then I try to profit off of your work by putting it on full display within my own work then you have every right to go after me if I'm either A. not licensing it from you or B. using it in a way that is not what you consider in the best interest of your work or brand.

If however I'm just commenting on your work without actually using it that is fair game.
 

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