DHS Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance

[hokielutz]

When do you think Millennium Falcon will get FP? And runaway railway, also opening without it?

I don't think the MF ride needs a FP. The line moves pretty well without that bottleneck and it gives all of us a taste of what lines used to be like way back before FP was even a glimmer in the eyes of Park Ops.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I don’t want to send this thread spiraling out of control. Let me search for the post where I explain it.

Bottom line: the idea that throughput remains consistent is based on the faulty assumption that Disney is operating the attraction at full capacity and properly mixing Standby with FP. They don’t.

This will be my last post on this and then maybe I'll take it to PM.

The mixing of Standby with FP happens at a merge point that is generally far enough away from dispatch. The only scenario where operational efficiency would be restricted is if they don't get people through the merge point quick enough or in order to facilitate the delay and still stack people at dispatch, they slow the dispatch interval.

What wouldn't surprise me is if they are having to increase staffing to handle Fastpass+ but doing so doesn't scale with cost/guest efficiency. We've also seen them manipulate the dispatch interval when low crowds are anticipated. Perhaps that's what's meant by "less efficient"?

 

[djkidkaz]

...easy "Happy Ending"

All this talk of climaxes and happy endings has me pretty excited!

 

[marni1971]

Well from the looks of the attraction, it should help.

They‘re full on using the best free advertising of the modern age. I feel this will be a new chapter in marketing.

 

[SWGalaxysEdge]

Do any CMs or insiders know how they'll be handling DSA entry on this? It would be a bummer if disabled individuals have to miss out on the entire 18-minute experience.

...Ive been posting for a while, all over' about it (I'm disabled)
The front row of each ride car will hinge open to allow xfer into the ride car. You can;t stay in tour chair/scooter.
They are trying to have you park your ECV/Scooter by the turret and use a Disney wheelchair or walk through the queue.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

This will be my last post on this and then maybe I'll take it to PM.

The mixing of Standby with FP happens at a merge point that is generally far enough away from dispatch. The only scenario where operational efficiency would be restricted is if they don't get people through the merge point quick enough or in order to facilitate the delay and still stack people at dispatch, they slow the dispatch interval.

What wouldn't surprise me is if they are having to increase staffing to handle Fastpass+ but doing so doesn't scale with cost/guest efficiency. We've also seen them manipulate the dispatch interval when low crowds are anticipated. Perhaps that's what's meant by "less efficient"?

I'll sum it up by saying FP+ doesn't reduce capacity, but MM+ does by giving Disney the ability to do "right size staffing". If attendance is low, they can adjust staffing for profit not efficiency.

 

[Nland316]

It somehow seems pretty easy to convert to OT if they truly wanted to eventually.

I am beyond impressed with this attraction, however do share the same opinion as others in thinking the OT would’ve been such a superior choice.

 

[Magenta Panther]

Rise of the Resistance: So sleek. So sterile. So boring.

Now if we heard/saw Han yelling at Chewie to fix something on the Falcon, and Leia making sarcastic remarks, and Vader showing up to stare us down and wield his lightsaber, this thing might be kinda fun. But as it is, despite the dollars spent on this attraction (that would have been put to better use fixing the damn yeti and/or upgrading Pan or Pirates or cloning the excellent-looking Beauty and the Beast ride from Tokyo), it's still a snore IMO.

 

[SWGalaxysEdge]

None. All the queues terminate at the first pre-show. My understanding is express will just skip the long outdoor queue and the indoor "tunnel"

...yes see queue lines here...RED is standby, BLUE is Fastpass

 

[hokielutz]

Having just watched the Imagineering Story and being reminded of the catastrophic opening of Disneyland, I can only conclude that rushed, artificial deadlines are a true Disney tradition.

I think that Disney is feeling the heat from Universal to start delivering on these attractions as soon as possible, rather than waiting until everything has been vetted & tested. All of these new attractions and lands (GE, TSL, NFL) have a lot of infrastructure and detail that has taken so much time to put together while Uni seems to be cranking out new lands, rides, and now with a new park that will be coming along in a few short years.

 

[LittleGiants'16]

Rise of the Resistance: So sleek. So sterile. So boring.

Now if we heard/saw Han yelling at Chewie to fix something on the Falcon, and Leia making sarcastic remarks, and Vader showing up to stare us down and wield his lightsaber, this thing might be kinda fun. But as it is, despite the dollars spent on this attraction (that would have been put to better use fixing the damn yeti and/or upgrading Pan or Pirates or cloning the excellent-looking Beauty and the Beast ride from Tokyo), it's still a snore IMO.

This, friends, is peak trollery. No future trolling on this board will ever reach such heights.

 

[marni1971]

...yes see queue lines here...RED is standby, BLUE is Fastpass

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I’ll do a full queue layout. After it’s opened.

I still owe a few people one of the Falcon too I think.

 

[marni1971]

This, friends, is peak trollery. No future trolling on this board will ever reach such heights.

It’s not trolling. It’s an opinion. Nowt wrong with that.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Unless FP is causing empty seats in the RVs or a slowdown in dispatch, then it is most definitely not affecting capacity efficiency.

The term "operational efficiency" needs to be defined. I would think from the business point of view, it takes more cast members to manage FP lines, and thus it is less financially efficient. The operations of FP is less efficient, not the guests capacity efficiency.

 

[mergatroid]

Rise of the Resistance: So sleek. So sterile. So boring.

Now if we heard/saw Han yelling at Chewie to fix something on the Falcon, and Leia making sarcastic remarks, and Vader showing up to stare us down and wield his lightsaber, this thing might be kinda fun. But as it is, despite the dollars spent on this attraction (that would have been put to better use fixing the damn yeti and/or upgrading Pan or Pirates or cloning the excellent-looking Beauty and the Beast ride from Tokyo), it's still a snore IMO.

And interesting opinion. I'd send Disney an email reminding them to run it by you first in the future before building anything new

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Unless FP is causing empty seats in the RVs or a slowdown in dispatch, then it is most definitely not affecting capacity efficiency.

The term "operational efficiency" needs to be defined. I would think from the business point of view, it takes more cast members to manage FP lines, and thus it is less financially efficient. The operations of FP is less efficient, not the guests capacity efficiency.

Running FP+ takes 2 cast members. One more than legacy FP. But MM+ lets them better judge crowd levels and adjust staffing down if the crowd level allows. Doing things like only operating one side of the load platform at BTMRR saves them tons. And that practice absolutely reduces capacity.

 

[Tha Realest]

I say this as someone who has not watched many of the videos with the exception of the "drop" part because I am a wimp and want to make sure I won't have a heart attack.

I don't think I've ever seen another ride look as beautiful as this one. I have watched a ton of 4k POV videos for rides I've already rode on (or those I won't be able to, such as the overseas Disney parks) and I don't think I've ever seen a ride that looks as beautifully lit and tangible and real as this one. This is not a knock on other classic rides such as Pirates, HM, etc. If you had said much of this footage was of a single take from the new Star Wars movie I'd believe you.

Again, it'll be a few weeks since I'll be in a position to ride this, but from what I am seeing it looks like a fully fleshed out marvel of a ride.

 

[peter11435]

Running FP+ takes 2 cast members. One more than legacy FP. But MM+ lets them better judge crowd levels and adjust staffing down if the crowd level allows. Doing things like only operating one side of the load platform at BTMRR saves them tons. And that practice absolutely reduces capacity.

Legacy fastpass also required two cast members.

Doing things like operating only one side of an attraction absolutely lowers capacity. However that has nothing to do with FP+ or even MM+. They have been doing that on low attendance days for three decades. MM+ just gives them more data to use to accurately forecast attendance.

FP and FP+ have no effect on attraction capacity. Capacity remains the same. It could negatively impact utilization if operated poorly but this is largely not an issue. There are many negatives to FP+ but lowering capacity just is not one of them.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Running FP+ takes 2 cast members. One more than legacy FP. But MM+ lets them better judge crowd levels and adjust staffing down if the crowd level allows. Doing things like only operating one side of the load platform at BTMRR saves them tons. And that practice absolutely reduces capacity.

But then, from the point of view of operations and the cost of operations, that would increase operational efficiency, which, we've been told, is not the case.

 

[I Enjoy Disneyland]

The thing I really love about this ride is the pacing. It really is like 1 and a half acts of a Star Wars movie in 18 minutes. The thing that pushes this to the top of the all timers list won’t be the tech, because really at some point improvements to AAs, special effects, track tech, Etc just becomes iterative. It’s the scale that makes this thing awesome